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    I agree but Griffiths isn't our player and only recently signed a new deal with Celtic.

    Even before this latest episode became public, I don't think there was any way he was coming to Hibs - at least not during this window.

    That he's done too much daft stuff isn't even up for debate IMO, and TBH it's probably the last straw as far as I'm concerned, but I think people are going well OTT with this particular incident.
    OTT? 30 year olds trying it on with a girl who probably hasnít even sat her exams yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcohibs View Post
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    Baffles me why some would think he'd be motivated to put in performances for Hibs week in week out when he couldn't get himself fit for celtic's biggest season in decades or a chance to pretty much walk into the national side playing at a major tournament for the first time in a generation. Dodged a bullet by not signing him.

    Fair enough but heís a player who obviously needs careful management. Pat Fenlon was brilliant with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbysam View Post
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    OTT? 30 year olds trying it on with a girl who probably hasnít even sat her exams yet.
    She posted the underwear photo. She looked older. He didn't know her age and hinted at wanting more photos.

    It might be seedy but he was hardly "trying it on".

    Had he known her age then yes, that would have been indefensible - but he didn't.

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    She posted the underwear photo. She looked older. He didn't know her age and hinted at wanting more photos.

    It might be seedy but he was hardly "trying it on".

    Had he known her age then yes, that would have been indefensible - but he didn't.
    She was 16, thatís the fact. Heís 30. He should be far more aware of his surroundings. He wasnít trying it on asking for more pics? Defending the indefensible. Like Iíve said before, ignorance isnít a defence and he should be thanking his lucky stars that she wasnít a few months younger or heíd be finding himself with all sorts of unwanted records, but being a few months older doesnít make it any less creepy from his point of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbysam View Post
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    She was 16, thatís the fact. Heís 30. He should be far more aware of his surroundings. He wasnít trying it on asking for more pics? Defending the indefensible. Like Iíve said before, ignorance isnít a defence and he should be thanking his lucky stars that she wasnít a few months younger or heíd be finding himself with all sorts of unwanted records, but being a few months older doesnít make it any less creepy from his point of view.
    Creepy - maybe. Beast - no.

    I'm in no way condoning his behaviour but I can't be bothered going round in circles on this so I'll leave all you paragons of virtue to continue blowing things out of proportion.

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    Creepy - maybe. Beast - no.

    I'm in no way condoning his behaviour but I can't be bothered going round in circles on this so I'll leave all you paragons of virtue to continue blowing things out of proportion.
    Legally not a beast but asking school girls for more pics when replying to an underwear picture when your 30 is beastly enough. If the truth is blowing it out of proportion then so be it. At least she wasnít underage though eh, that few months makes all the difference!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbysam View Post
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    Legally not a beast but asking school girls for more pics when replying to an underwear picture when your 30 is beastly enough. If the truth is blowing it out of proportion then so be it. At least she wasnít underage though eh, that few months makes all the difference!

    What makes more of a difference is the fact that he did nothing remotely illegal regardless of how much of an issue some people are determined to make of this.

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    The fact he's been reported, investigated, but cleared of any wrongdoing, to me says his judgement is flawed, and has in the past been flawed.

    No matter which side of the fence you sit, for all he's a talented footballer, the negatives of this and other events far outweigh any positives for me.

    Hibs need to look forwards, not backwards.

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    What makes more of a difference is the fact that he did nothing remotely illegal regardless of how much of an issue some people are determined to make of this.
    So you keep saying. Not that he knew it wasnít illegal as youíve already said he had no idea her age. He wasnít bothered about her age. As Iíve said on that front heís a very lucky man. Itís still creepy and beastly though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbysam View Post
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    So you keep saying. Not that he knew it wasnít illegal as youíve already said he had no idea her age. He wasnít bothered about her age. As Iíve said on that front heís a very lucky man. Itís still creepy and beastly though.
    Turning it round, do you think he knew how young she was, or more likely foolishly assumed she was much older ?

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    Turning it round, do you think he knew how young she was, or more likely foolishly assumed she was much older ?
    Only he knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbysam View Post
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    So you keep saying. Not that he knew it wasnít illegal as youíve already said he had no idea her age. He wasnít bothered about her age. As Iíve said on that front heís a very lucky man. Itís still creepy and beastly though.
    You can't possibly know that he wasn't bothered about her age. He could quite easily have thought she was older.

    And how is he lucky? That would suggest that he did something and got away with it which isn't the case. Quite the opposite in fact.

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    You can't possibly know that he wasn't bothered about her age. He could quite easily have thought she was older.

    And how is he lucky? That would suggest that he did something and got away with it which isn't the case. Quite the opposite in fact.
    ĎThoughtí - not a great argument. Heís very lucky seeing as he never knew her age, she couldíve been any age. Heís lucky she was a few months above legal age. Others havenít been so lucky. Iíll reiterate, heís 30, she was school age. Creep!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbysam View Post
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    Only he knows.
    Iím prepared to believe he didnít know her age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbysam View Post
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    ĎThoughtí - not a great argument. Heís very lucky seeing as he never knew her age, she couldíve been any age. Heís lucky she was a few months above legal age. Others havenít been so lucky. Iíll reiterate, heís 30, she was school age. Creep!
    Can you explain the "luck" part please? I honestly don't see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbysam View Post
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    Legally not a beast but asking school girls for more pics when replying to an underwear picture when your 30 is beastly enough. If the truth is blowing it out of proportion then so be it. At least she wasnít underage though eh, that few months makes all the difference!
    I get the impression from your posts that youíre almost a bit disappointed she wasnít under age. Itís a bit like youíre desperate for this to be a bigger scandal than itís turned out to be.

    Iíd imagine a lot of guys on here have slept with a female without asking their age. Are they all just lucky beasts as well because they didnít do full background checks?

    You keep referring to him being lucky when really itís as simple as heís done nothing legally wrong. Thereís lots of things people donít do for moral reasons, I eat meat but Iím aware others donít. To some thatís morally wrong that I do that but we all have different morals.

    I wouldnít ask a 16 year old for naked pictures because my morals would tell me itís wrong, but itís not really my or anyone elseís place to start referring to someone as a beast because they have when thereís been nothing illegal commited.
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    I get the impression from your posts that youíre almost a bit disappointed she wasnít under age. Itís a bit like youíre desperate for this to be a bigger scandal than itís turned out to be.

    Iíd imagine a lot of guys on here have slept with a female without asking their age. Are they all just lucky beasts as well because they didnít do full background checks?

    You keep referring to him being lucky when really itís as simple as heís done nothing legally wrong. Thereís lots of things people donít do for moral reasons, I eat meat but Iím aware others donít. To some thatís morally wrong that I do that but we all have different morals.

    I wouldnít ask a 16 year old for naked pictures because my morals would tell me itís wrong, but itís not really my or anyone elseís place to start referring to someone as a beast because they have when thereís been nothing illegal commited.
    If your ok with 30 year olds perving on girls not out of school yet, whether illegal or not, then fair play. I can refer to him as whatever I see fit, as can you. Itís not your place to tell people what they can and cannot see people as. Everyone has an opinion, mine and plenty of others is that itís creepy at best, and absolutely beastly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbysam View Post
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    If your ok with 30 year olds perving on girls not out of school yet, whether illegal or not, then fair play. I can refer to him as whatever I see fit, as can you. Itís not your place to tell people what they can and cannot see people as. Everyone has an opinion, mine and plenty of others is that itís creepy at best, and absolutely beastly.
    Yes of course, you can keep calling folk whatever you want. Why donít you go down the street and call some random guy a rapist to his face? I mean it would seem that you make the call nowadays rather than the law. The guy most likely wonít be a rapist but why let that stop you.

    As I said, you really just come across as if youíre disappointed that she wasnít underage because you wanted a Ďbheastíscandal to discuss with some of your claims. He was just lucky she wasnít underage, he didnít care about her age etc.

    You keep telling us about how sheís school age to try and make it sound like he was chatting up a 10 year old. She could have left school since you weirdly seem to be obsessed with the school side of it. She could be in full time employment. In reality she was old enough that he hadnít done anything legally wrong.

    Was Zemmama a beast? Was Graham Stack a beast? Neither of them ever done anything legally wrong but why let that get in the way of declaring them beasts?

    It certainly wouldnít be me doing what he was doing, itís not my bag. But Iím not sure your own personal morals being different to someone elseís should ever be considered an acceptable reason to be going round calling someone a beast.
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    Not my decision of course but not sure what this debate is doing in the football part of the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
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    Not my decision of course but not sure what this debate is doing in the football part of the forum.
    Agreed, it's about a female posting pictures of herself half undressed with her face hidden looking for a reaction.

    One of those that reacted is a married man who should have known better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calumhibee1 View Post
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    Yes of course, you can keep calling folk whatever you want. Why donít you go down the street and call some random guy a rapist to his face? I mean it would seem that you make the call nowadays rather than the law. The guy most likely wonít be a rapist but why let that stop you.

    As I said, you really just come across as if youíre disappointed that she wasnít underage because you wanted a Ďbheastíscandal to discuss with some of your claims. He was just lucky she wasnít underage, he didnít care about her age etc.

    You keep telling us about how sheís school age to try and make it sound like he was chatting up a 10 year old. She could have left school since you weirdly seem to be obsessed with the school side of it. She could be in full time employment. In reality she was old enough that he hadnít done anything legally wrong.

    Was Zemmama a beast? Was Graham Stack a beast? Neither of them ever done anything legally wrong but why let that get in the way of declaring them beasts?

    It certainly wouldnít be me doing what he was doing, itís not my bag. But Iím not sure your own personal morals being different to someone elseís should ever be considered an acceptable reason to be going round calling someone a beast.
    Good post

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    Admins. Any chance of just ending this here? The Ďdiscussioní has become tediously circular with nothing new really being added.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wee Effen Bee View Post
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    Admins. Any chance of just ending this here? The Ďdiscussioní has become tediously circular with nothing new really being added.
    I concur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY View Post
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    I concur.
    Me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneone73 View Post
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    Me too.
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    I don't, i cant see anything wrong here with what people of both sides are saying, just because you dont like what you see, doesn't mean it should be shoved under the carpet and hidden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    I don't, i cant see anything wrong here with what people of both sides are saying, just because you dont like what you see, doesn't mean it should be shoved under the carpet and hidden.
    I also agree with this!.... I think the pont now though is we seem to be going round in ever decreasing circles
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    I don't, i cant see anything wrong here with what people of both sides are saying, just because you dont like what you see, doesn't mean it should be shoved under the carpet and hidden.
    I was thinking the same myself.

    I'm not necessarily looking to add to the discussion, and I'm not sure if it belongs on the main board, but I don't think it merits being closed more than any other thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    I don't, i cant see anything wrong here with what people of both sides are saying, just because you dont like what you see, doesn't mean it should be shoved under the carpet and hidden.
    I guess it's because they keep saying the same things over and over again.
    Anyway, I won't be opening it again, which I guess is the sensible solution

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