Jack Ross

[bingo70]

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Plenty people on here said they’d happily be bottom 6 as long as we beat Hearts.

I don’t remember seeing that and tbh I would doubt if ‘plenty’ would take that view. The odd person here or there maybe but it’s not reflective of the majority of people who still have concerns about Jack Ross as manager.

[CMurdoch]

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Think you are missing the point as to why Hearts being back in the league makes it tougher for Hibs.

Our record against them is woeful. The season they were relegated they beat us 2/3 times with us taking 3 points off them.

Say we were to play Hamilton instead that is easily 7/9 points lost for us against the field. That's why it is tougher for us and especially Jack Ross as he will be under the spotlight in derbies.

Historically, we will do well to take 4 points off them this season.

Past games against Hearts with different players on both sides are no guide to future fixture results between them.
They should be the 5th strongest team in the league this season which means matches between us will be tough but I expect Hibs to take no less than equal points against them in the probable 4 league games.

[superfurryhibby]

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Plenty people on here said they’d happily be bottom 6 as long as we beat Hearts.

Plenty of people say this without it really being based on what plenty of people have actually said

[Greenio]

Great news.

Class manager that will only get better and prove many people wrong

Let's all get behind him until he starts taking us backwards eh

[wookie70]

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Agreed.

There was a time when we would take the game to the Old Firm at home and had a good record against them. Mowbray, Collins, Stubbs and Lennon. We also knew we were beating Hearts at home under Stubbs and Lennon.

Hearts beat us at ER under Lennon although it was at the tail end of his tenure.

[CapitalGreen]

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Hearts beat us at ER under Lennon although it was at the tail end of his tenure.

They also knocked us out the cup under Lennon too.

[Caversham Green]

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Even Jim Duffy’s team beat Celtic.

So did Craig Levein's Hearts.

So, would you rather have Jim Duffy, Craig Levein or Jack Ross as Hibs manager?

[The Spaceman]

We apparently don’t play attacking enough football according to some geniuses on here even though we comfortably out scored every single team beneath us (you know, third place?). Clueless.

[Hibs90]

I think an extension to his deal is fair based on league performance but the jury is still out for me and it would take a lot to change my mind even more so after the cup final.

[CapitalGreen]

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We didn't win a cup playing a style that was to grind out results going against the tradition of the club.

The tradition of the club for best part of the last 50 years is underperforming in the league and winning a trophy once a decade if we’re lucky.

[CapitalGreen]

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I think an extension to his deal is fair based on league performance but the jury is still out for me and it would take a lot to change my mind even more so after the cup final.

No it will be based on cup performances too. We haven’t failed to reach the semi final stage of any cup competition since Ross became manager.

[bingo70]

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So did Craig Levein's Hearts.

So, would you rather have Jim Duffy, Craig Levein or Jack Ross as Hibs manager?

It’s almost as if there’s no middle ground 😂

[calumhibee1]

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I don’t remember seeing that and tbh I would doubt if ‘plenty’ would take that view. The odd person here or there maybe but it’s not reflective of the majority of people who still have concerns about Jack Ross as manager.

It’s certainly not something I seen at all either.

I did see plenty people say they’d take a cup and mid table like St Johnstone but I never saw anyone saying they’d take bottom 6 for a derby win.

[MJ hibs]

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I think an extension to his deal is fair based on league performance but the jury is still out for me and it would take a lot to change my mind even more so after the cup final.

This! He is tactically quite naive, the final showed that. Also, in the league we only just finished above the dons who didn't really score for half a season.

A couple things in his favour: I don't know who could come in and be much better and his teams don't look like they will drop into the bottom six.

[Callum_62]

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Also, in the league we only just finished above the dons who didn't really score for half a season.

Hibs - 63

Aberdeen - 56

St J - 45

Livi - 45

Thats 7 points (3 games) ahead of Aberdeen in 4th and a whopping 18 points (6 games) ahead of both St Js and Livi


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[BILLYHIBS]

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I think an extension to his deal is fair based on league performance but the jury is still out for me and it would take a lot to change my mind even more so after the cup final.

[Hibernian Verse]

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This! He is tactically quite naive, the final showed that.

What about the times we beat the opposition? Surely he was tactically spot on in those games?

I take it he was just lucky though to finish 3rd.

[The Modfather]

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We apparently don’t play attacking enough football according to some geniuses on here even though we comfortably out scored every single team beneath us (you know, third place?). Clueless.

Surely there’s a more constructive way you could have made your point? There’s an interesting debate to be had, even if it’s been done to death, but needlessly aggressive tones don’t help a constructive debate.

[Hibernian Verse]

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Surely there’s a more constructive way you could have made your point? There’s an interesting debate to be had, even if it’s been done to death, but needlessly aggressive tones don’t help a constructive debate.

People get passive aggressive on here because of exactly what you say - it has been done to death.

Can't we all just look forward to the new season!?

[Caversham Green]

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It’s almost as if there’s no middle ground 😂

You chose Duffy as a comparative, so let's take Levein out of the equation - Duffy who managed to beat Celtc or Ross who hasn't (yet)?

[MJ hibs]

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What about the times we beat the opposition? Surely he was tactically spot on in those games?

I take it he was just lucky though to finish 3rd.

I said tactically naive not clueless. We have recruited well and against most SPL teams that extra quality is enough. The final was worrying because we had really struggled attacking wise against St J on more than one occasion and he didn't change it.

[Allez Hibs]

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Hibs - 63

Aberdeen - 56

St J - 45

Livi - 45

Thats 7 points (3 games) ahead of Aberdeen in 4th and a whopping 18 points (6 games) ahead of both St Js and Livi


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The test will be when Hearts are in the league. That will cause a points swing.

[Peevemor]

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The test will be when Hearts are in the league. That will cause a points swing.

You're really keeching your pants about them coming up aren't you? I reckon they'll be as crap as they have been for years.

[CLASS OF 72 -73]

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Hmm. In all fairness, we had two fantastic opportunities to do it and failed on both occasions.

Happy enough he’s signed a new deal as there has been progress. Unsure if we’ll get a better chance at silverware as we did last season but I reckon our derby record this season will have a big part to play, either rightly or wrongly.

Fully agree not sure we will ever have a better chance

[Allez Hibs]

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You're really keeching your pants about them coming up aren't you? I reckong they'll be as crap as they have been for years.

The Derby games next season will define Jack Ross in the eyes of the supporters. There needs to be an improvement in them.

[Peevemor]

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The Derby games next season will define Jack Ross in the eyes of the supporters. There needs to be an improvement in them.

Speak for yourself.

[Caversham Green]

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You're really keeching your pants about them coming up aren't you? I reckong they'll be as crap as they have been for years.

That's what's getting me - people terrified of Hearts because they've beaten us in the past. Right now we have much better players than them, a much better manager than them and much better momentum than them.

We might not beat them every time we meet them but we'll win more than we'll lose.

[CapitalGreen]

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The test will be when Hearts are in the league. That will cause a points swing.

Do Hearts only have the potential to take points off us? Are Aberdeen, Livi, Saints etc immune from dropping points against Hearts too?

[Fergus52]

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Agreed.

There was a time when we would take the game to the Old Firm at home and had a good record against them. Mowbray, Collins, Stubbs and Lennon. We also knew we were beating Hearts at home under Stubbs and Lennon.

Our performances against the old firm last season were all fine.

We deserved at least two wins, ref cheated us out of it twice against rangers and also in the 2-2 game v Celtic where mcginns handball was never a pen.

Criticising Ross for derbys and big cup games is fair enough imo, but I can't understand anyone who thinks we were rubbish against the old firm last season.

[The Spaceman]

Honestly, who would people have in ahead of Jack Ross as our manager? 😂 “CaLlUm DaViDsOn”. Might be safer supporting Celtic or Manchester City.