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    Removing ourselves from the Jack Ross conversation for a second I don’t think there’s any doubt it will be.

    Hearts will be a sterner test than Hamilton. St Johnstone came out the traps very slowly last season and we don’t need to talk about how much they improved later in the season. Same applies with Motherwell.

    Celtic unlikely to be as bad as they were last year, Dundee Utd another year in and established in the league.

    I don’t see any obvious ‘whipping boys’ this season.

    Same will apply to all teams though so not sure we’ll see that much difference in terms of points totals, I think it will be a harder league this year though.
    Looking at it from a purely "rivals" point of view. Celtic and Aberdeen are in transition, Dundee United have a rookie managing them and Hearts are a bit of an unknown but the general consensus amongst that lot is they aren't particularly positive about their chances this season. St Johnstone will be lucky to keep their defence and Livingston won't go on a mental run this season. I'd say it's about the same as last season.


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    Really, really happy with that. It’s clear he’s a very good manager - 3rd, a cup final and two cup semi finals is as good a season as we’ve had in the past 30 years. He’s building a solid foundation here and we will only get stronger. Stability is key just now whilst Hearts and Aberdeen look set to be in a bit of a transition.
    Turn the semi finals into finals & the finals into wins.

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    Deserves it on the back of managing the team to third place. Here is hoping we can repeat the feat as well as kicking on in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS View Post
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    This but beating Hearts is not the be all and end all

    We need to finish third by playing fast exciting entertaining attractive attacking football not the sterile behind closed doors stuff where every team had sussed our style by season end and panic mode had set in with no plan B

    Jack Ross needs to prove to us he is not a ‘Loser’ by beating Celtic The Rangers Aberdeen and Hearts and winning trophies

    Bring it on !
    Which part of panic mode does beating Aberdeen 1-0 at Pitoddrie, followed by a 0-0 draw with Celtic fall under?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernian Verse View Post
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    Which part of panic mode does beating Aberdeen 1-0 at Pitoddrie, followed by a 0-0 draw with Celtic fall under?
    Exactly - it's like Groundhog Day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peevemor View Post
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    Exactly - it's like Groundhog Day!
    I don't mind Jack Ross getting pelters for things he's done wrong (within reason), but making stuff up to fit a narrative...jeez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS View Post
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    This but beating Hearts is not the be all and end all

    We need to finish third by playing fast exciting entertaining attractive attacking football not the sterile behind closed doors stuff where every team had sussed our style by season end and panic mode had set in with no plan B

    Jack Ross needs to prove to us he is not a ‘Loser’ by beating Celtic The Rangers Aberdeen and Hearts and winning trophies

    Bring it on !
    See, I am still miffed by the cup final ‘performance’ as much as the next guy.

    But I don’t think we fell apart at the end of the season. Far from it to be honest.

    We won the semi with ease. We beat the sheep up there for the first time in 9 year and finished comfortably third.

    I never seen any end of season panic mode

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernian Verse View Post
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    Which part of panic mode does beating Aberdeen 1-0 at Pitoddrie, followed by a 0-0 draw with Celtic fall under?
    Livi, Motherwell, Hearts, St Johnstone ( twice) and could easily with a bit of luck beat a poor Celtic twice especially at home

    The last home derby was an embarrassment my granny has more fight and she’s been deid thirty years


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    It would be hell of a boring if we all just agreed.

    Ross has done a decent job, from that point of view he deserves a new contract. I don't have to be particularly enthused about the idea watching his team for the next few years though. If others feel the end result is the only concern or genuinely enjoyed watching us last season then I'm not going to say you're wrong but I personally can't get all that excited about this news.

    From a stability point of view it's good and there is every chance it could prove to be from a performance one as well. Time will tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Trager View Post
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    See, I am still miffed by the cup final ‘performance’ as much as the next guy.

    But I don’t think we fell apart at the end of the season. Far from it to be honest.

    We won the semi with ease. We beat the sheep up there for the first time in 9 year and finished comfortably third.

    I never seen any end of season panic mode
    Yip Jack Ross seemed to think we played well in the Final couldn’t fault the players or tactics

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS View Post
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    Yip Jack Ross seemed to think we played well in the Final couldn’t fault the players or tactics
    Luckily there's more to football than post match interviews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS View Post
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    Yip Jack Ross seemed to think we played well in the Final couldn’t fault the players or tactics
    Believe then I have a bridge to sell

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS View Post
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    This but beating Hearts is not the be all and end all

    We need to finish third by playing fast exciting entertaining attractive attacking football not the sterile behind closed doors stuff where every team had sussed our style by season end and panic mode had set in with no plan B

    Jack Ross needs to prove to us he is not a ‘Loser’ by beating Celtic The Rangers Aberdeen and Hearts and winning trophies

    Bring it on !
    That has to be right up there with the most bullcrap i've read on here, and i've written some bullcrap in my time.

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    Great news best manager for a long time

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    Is this new tougher league only tougher for us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    It would be hell of a boring if we all just agreed.

    Ross has done a decent job, from that point of view he deserves a new contract. I don't have to be particularly enthused about the idea watching his team for the next few years though. If others feel the end result is the only concern or genuinely enjoyed watching us last season then I'm not going to say you're wrong but I personally can't get all that excited about this news.

    From a stability point of view it's good and there is every chance it could prove to be from a performance one as well. Time will tell.
    Couldn't agree more PB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    That has to be right up there with the most bullcrap i've read on here, and i've written some bullcrap in my time.
    As another poster has pointed out the football on offer was eye bleeding and he spurned three gilt edged opportunities to deliver silverware

    It is only finishing third that keeps him in my good books

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    It would be hell of a boring if we all just agreed.

    Ross has done a decent job, from that point of view he deserves a new contract. I don't have to be particularly enthused about the idea watching his team for the next few years though. If others feel the end result is the only concern or genuinely enjoyed watching us last season then I'm not going to say you're wrong but I personally can't get all that excited about this news.

    From a stability point of view it's good and there is every chance it could prove to be from a performance one as well. Time will tell.
    That surely is the aim, and we start from a better place than a lot of previous managers. The foundations are there for this manager to improve us even more, and hopefully the odd trophy with some attractive football.

    As you say, time will tell, i also feel with fans actually in the stadium, it wont feel as sterile as it has watching on tv, and emotions will impact on peoples views on how we've played, rather than this black or white viewpoint we see now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS View Post
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    As another poster has pointed out the football on offer was eye bleeding and he spurned three gilt edged opportunities to deliver silverware

    It is only finishing third that keeps him in my good books

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    Every manager has a shelf life at a club before a natural decline. A good example is McInnes at Aberdeen. But what I'd give to have a good 4 or 5 seasons regularly competing for 3rd and getting to cup finals. Would do the club wonders. Was a rarity for Hibs finishing 3rd but next step is to try and do it consistently. That would be outstanding. We have a chance to do that under Ross. Has he made mistakes? Undoubtedly, but you learn through experience. We have a really solid foundation to push on as a club on and off the park, I'm excited for the future and it's about bloody time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    No chance, i love reading bull.

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    How many points we taking off them then?
    I can’t find my crystal ball just now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    That surely is the aim, and we start from a better place than a lot of previous managers. The foundations are there for this manager to improve us even more, and hopefully the odd trophy with some attractive football.

    As you say, time will tell, i also feel with fans actually in the stadium, it wont feel as sterile as it has watching on tv, and emotions will impact on peoples views on how we've played, rather than this black or white viewpoint we see now.
    Our home form will have to improve under Ross, fans back in the ground, that mob in the West when things aren’t going well will let him know these dull performances aren’t good enough if they continue from last season.,

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    Do you not think Hearts will be better than Hamilton?

    Straight away that makes it a tougher League IMO. Nothing to do with them being our rivals.
    Newly promoted Hearts will make it a much tougher league will they? Pretty sure they will play all the other teams too, not just Hibs. I have no idea if they will be better than Hamilton, they were pretty crap the season before last though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee View Post
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    Newly promoted Hearts will make it a much tougher league will they? Pretty sure they will play all the other teams too, not just Hibs. I have no idea if they will be better than Hamilton, they were pretty crap the season before last though.
    I think it’ll be a higher standard of league, but then as you say, that goes for everybody.

    The problem with Hearts is that other teams have no problems tucking them away. We do though, regardless of how ***** they are so in that regard it does become a slightly tougher league for us.

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    Ross out now!

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    I think this continuity is positive.
    Ross still has a few Lennon and Heckenbottom era players for one more season. That cycle will end next summer and from thereon Ross will have only players signed in his time plus those already here who he wanted to keep and gave new contracts to.
    He has gradually moved on those players he doesn't want. That started with Vela and this summer has seen Mallan, James, Murray & Gray leave the first team.
    I think we will be 3rd again this season if we can hold onto Nisbet & Boyle or replace them well which would be a tough ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee View Post
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    Newly promoted Hearts will make it a much tougher league will they? Pretty sure they will play all the other teams too, not just Hibs. I have no idea if they will be better than Hamilton, they were pretty crap the season before last though.
    Think you are missing the point as to why Hearts being back in the league makes it tougher for Hibs.

    Our record against them is woeful. The season they were relegated they beat us 2/3 times with us taking 3 points off them.

    Say we were to play Hamilton instead that is easily 7/9 points lost for us against the field. That's why it is tougher for us and especially Jack Ross as he will be under the spotlight in derbies.

    Historically, we will do well to take 4 points off them this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Hibs View Post
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    Think you are missing the point as to why Hearts being back in the league makes it tougher for Hibs.

    Our record against them is woeful. The season they were relegated they beat us 2/3 times with us taking 3 points off them.

    Say we were to play Hamilton instead that is easily 7/9 points lost for us against the field. That's why it is tougher for us and especially Jack Ross as he will be under the spotlight in derbies.

    Historically, we will do well to take 4 points off them this season.
    Especially from people like yourself.

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    Especially from people like yourself.
    The whole club should be under the spotlight in derbies from everybody.

    They’re huge games. We’re best of the rest, they’re newly promoted. The expectation on Hibs should be sky high.

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