2021-22 UEFA Coefficient Thread

[CMurdoch]

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So a marked improvement this week. We're still 9th, having moved past Russia, but Austria on a real good streak, and Holland are now out of sight. But we've now got 3.1 points this season, and as our goal should be to improve on the points we've lost, and we lost 4.375, we're only 3 wins away from that, and the OF could get 2 of them in a couple of weeks.
The points are getting more spread around now...the bottom 11 countries picked up only 8.7 points back in 2017-18, but 15.5 last season, and 18.8 already this season, with 3 teams still involved, so outwith the top 6 countries, things should flatten out a little, and a slight improvement each year could see us consolidate quite nicely in the top 8 or 9

Holland will always be out of sight of Scotland.
However, Austria will fall with a big clunk when they lose 9.75 points to Scotland's 4 next summer so no need to be concerned with them unless Red Bull Saltzberg and LASK can keep it going this season. They are the Austrian flies in our ointment.

Scotland currently has the least teams left of countries that had 5 team entries and that is hurting us along with the OF sluggish displays before this week.
Fortunately, I can see Scotland locked in 8th position from next summer on with Hibs and Hearts making a better fist of things than they have previously.
Rangers should easily win again next time out against a poor team. That will leave them needing to beat Spartans Prague at home to qualify in 2nd place
Celtic I am less sure of but they are a slightly better than 50/50 bet next week. However to have any chance of qualifying in 2nd place they need to win next time our and need to win at home against Real Betis. Far worse bet to qualify than Rangers.

[Fergus52]

To be fair to them, Celtic were quite unlucky last time out against betis away from home.

Can easily see them winning at home with a noisy capacity crowd.

[CMurdoch]

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To be fair to them, Celtic were quite unlucky last time out against betis away from home.

Can easily see them winning at home with a noisy capacity crowd.

They went 2 up but then WTF.
Celtics defence were so bad you could be forgiven for thinking they were deliberately throwing the match.

This week was a big improvement defensively. They still need Jullien back ASAP though.

[SJNB Hibby]

So another 'not bad' week for the coefficient. We're still only 25th for this season, but we're now only .675 points short of the tally we lost this year. Celtic are guaranteed 4 more games, and Rangers are in a good spot for the Euro play-offs, or the Conf Play-offs. 2 wins in 6(or 8) matches should be doable.
Holland are storming the tables this year, well ahead of England in 2nd place. After they get rid of their pitiful 2.9 points from2017-18, they'll be giving France and Portugal a fight for 5th place

[CMurdoch]

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So another 'not bad' week for the coefficient. We're still only 25th for this season, but we're now only .675 points short of the tally we lost this year. Celtic are guaranteed 4 more games, and Rangers are in a good spot for the Euro play-offs, or the Conf Play-offs. 2 wins in 6(or 8) matches should be doable.
Holland are storming the tables this year, well ahead of England in 2nd place. After they get rid of their pitiful 2.9 points from2017-18, they'll be giving France and Portugal a fight for 5th place

Rangers were dreadful last night. They should have been trying to blow a poor Brondby side away to guarantee 3 points instead they just played comfortably doing nothing of note until going behind.. Now they are stuck with requiring a 2 goal win against a decent Sparta Prague team to finish 2nd in the group.
They have been a mile of the team they were last season despite not losing their main players.

Celtic game was a much better watch and their 3rd goal was magnificent from Turnbull winning the ball at half way to Abada's great finish. A real WOW! moment.
They have improved at the back but there is still a massive weakness in the centre of their defence. As soon as Jullian is fit to play he will be back in that team and it will be for him to mould one of the other centre half's into a reliable partner. Good luck to him with all that.
I can't see them getting anything in Germany next time out and Betis will take 3 points from Ferencvaros so they look like they are heading for the Conference play offs.
Their appalling defence that lost the match from a 2 goal lead in Betis looks like the factor that will cost them their place in the next stage of the Europa league.
However, if the pre injury Jullian returns and their forwards continue to rip it up they could do some damage in the Conference and win Scotland some valuable coefficient points.

[SJNB Hibby]

So lets take a break from the Hibs events of this weeks for a minute and review the coefficient as it stands
A good week for Scotland, but we're sitting 20th in this seasons standings, 10th overall. The total points distributed in the last few seasons have already been collected this year, and its hard to say how many points are out there. We've earned more than the season we've lost, but we clearly need more. Ukraine have lost all their teams, so we are safe from them, but Austria are doing real well. We're only a fraction behind Russia, but a lot will depend on the draw. Rangers could get Barcelona for example. Anyway, will be a VERY interesting draw for the 3 trophies on Monday

[hibbysam]

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So lets take a break from the Hibs events of this weeks for a minute and review the coefficient as it stands
A good week for Scotland, but we're sitting 20th in this seasons standings, 10th overall. The total points distributed in the last few seasons have already been collected this year, and its hard to say how many points are out there. We've earned more than the season we've lost, but we clearly need more. Ukraine have lost all their teams, so we are safe from them, but Austria are doing real well. We're only a fraction behind Russia, but a lot will depend on the draw. Rangers could get Barcelona for example. Anyway, will be a VERY interesting draw for the 3 trophies on Monday

rangers will get binned, majority of the teams they could get are top European clubs (Barcelona, Dortmund, Atalanta etc).

Celtic have a chance to go fairly deep into the conference league, not sure what points that may be worth.

[theonlywayisup]

So what's the latest position w.r.t. the coefficient? And what does it mean for places next / following season?

[Paul1642]

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rangers will get binned, majority of the teams they could get are top European clubs (Barcelona, Dortmund, Atalanta etc).

Celtic have a chance to go fairly deep into the conference league, not sure what points that may be worth.

Hope you didn’t stick money on it :)

[hibbysam]

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Hope you didn’t stick money on it :)

Shocker 😂 coefficient in a fantastic position considering next year we gain over just about every other country around us, and gain big over some nations. Difficult for us to gain spots, think 6th is the next benchmark which is 3 CL and an automatic EL group spot. Chances of that is unlikely considering Portugal will start next year about 15 ahead of us and with those champions league group spots confirmed.

[SJNB Hibby]

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Shocker 😂 coefficient in a fantastic position considering next year we gain over just about every other country around us, and gain big over some nations. Difficult for us to gain spots, think 6th is the next benchmark which is 3 CL and an automatic EL group spot. Chances of that is unlikely considering Portugal will start next year about 15 ahead of us and with those champions league group spots confirmed.

We''ve not really done that well this year. There are more points available because of the Conference League. We're only 17th this year so far. But we'll finish ahead of the Russkies for sure, and The H**s look like theyll help in the process of knocking out BOTH Serbian teams, as Partisan Belgrade lost 5-2 at home to Feyeenoord. So we'll finish 9th at the end of this season for sure. We'll start next season in 8th, comfortably ahead of Austria. The Country thats done the business so far this year is Holland, as they lead the season with 16.2 points, just ahead of Ingerland and France

[theonlywayisup]

So what's the latest? Are we supporting the The Rangers tonight?

[SJNB Hibby]

Well The Rangers efforts this week have helped consolidate Scotlands position, and made a top 5 finish next season even more rewarding. We're firmly in 9th place, although without much hope of improving, but will start next season in 8th, 3 points ahead of Austria. Russia Serbia and Ukraine are all set to lose more points than us....Belgium are the closest team behind us who will lose a bad season, but still be at least 4 points behind us. If you are determined to see a Scottish team fail in Europe, at least lets hope its on gd, and they can win a game and get another point for the cause

[gbhibby]

If The Rangers win the Europa league do the go directly into group stage of champions league?
What impact does that have on the other European qualifiers?

[hibby rae]

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If The Rangers win the Europa league do the go directly into group stage of champions league?
What impact does that have on the other European qualifiers?

I think everyone in the top six, unless we win tomorrow, will be guaranteed European football.

[JamesHFC]

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If The Rangers win the Europa league do the go directly into group stage of champions league?
What impact does that have on the other European qualifiers?

If they win the EL they go into the group stages of the CL and into pot one which is the highest seeded.

If Villarreal win the CL, the winners of the Scottish Premiership will not go straight into the group stages of the CL.

If Hibs don’t win the Scottish Cup then 5th place will also get a European qualifying spot this season. 6th won’t get anything as far as I’m aware regardless of what happens.

It’s sunk in today that we won’t be playing in Europe next season and it’s pissed me off. We need a win tomorrow to keep that dream alive 🤞🏻

[A Hi-Bee]

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I think everyone in the top six, unless we win tomorrow, will be guaranteed European football.

Well done Hibs, **** the coefficient it means nothing for our team.

[Juniper Greens]

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I think everyone in the top six, unless we win tomorrow, will be guaranteed European football.

No, this isn't right. Rangers winning wouldn't get scotland an "extra" spot, as rangers are already in Europe. They just wpuld go into the groups, rather than the qualifiers and every country below scotland would get bumped up a bit