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    It's basically half points in the preliminary rounds so once that is finished a win for Scottish teams becomes worth 0.4 instead of 0.2 of a point and as you say if you progress through the group stages you get bonus points.
    Perfect - thanks for clarifying.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    It's basically half points in the preliminary rounds so once that is finished a win for Scottish teams becomes worth 0.4 instead of 0.2 of a point and as you say if you progress through the group stages you get bonus points.
    Is it not 0.2 because there’s 5 Scottish teams. So the 1pt per win is divided by 5 which makes it 0.2?

    I’m sure something is divided by the amount of teams a country has in

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    Is it not 0.2 because there’s 5 Scottish teams. So the 1pt per win is divided by 5 which makes it 0.2?

    I’m sure something is divided by the amount of teams a country has in
    It’s 1 and 0.5 in qualifiers, 2 and 1 in the competition proper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbysam View Post
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    It’s 1 and 0.5 in qualifiers, 2 and 1 in the competition proper.
    Ah ok 👍

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    Best team in Scotland.


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    That looks promising for the next few years if Rangers do as well as they have been and the rest of us manage to chip in too.

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    Teams like Maribor, steau Bucharest, apollon limasoll, aek Athens all going out this round could work out well for us.

    Still won't be seeded for the play off round draw based on Rijeka's coefficient, but these teams going out means we are more likely to get a slightly easier draw based on weaker teams now being seeded instead

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    Good table.
    Well worth keeping. Hibs contributing 57% of Scotlands points
    St Johnstone are shown on same table as Scotlands worst team which I suspect won't change.
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    That looks promising for the next few years if Rangers do as well as they have been and the rest of us manage to chip in too.
    Slight problem is all points won by Scotland's teams including the old firm are, from this season, divided by 5 instead of 4. The cost of success.

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    Slight problem is all points won by Scotland's teams including the old firm are, from this season, divided by 5 instead of 4. The cost of success.
    Rangers are guaranteed group stage football of some form, Celtic and st Johnstone are one win away from that. Although it’s split by 5 rather than 4, we have a far higher chance of getting plenty bonus points from our sides. Even Aberdeen have been given a huge lifeline with them now playing the non seeds from the previous round.

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    The best thing that can happen is for Celtic and Rangers to drop down into at least Europa. Much easier to get wins which bring in points.


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    The best thing that can happen is for Celtic and Rangers to drop down into at least Europa. Much easier to get wins which bring in points.


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    Surely the bonus points from Rangers reaching the groups of the champions league (with the possibility of still making the Europa league from that) outweighs dropping down and still having a difficult group?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbysam View Post
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    Surely the bonus points from Rangers reaching the groups of the champions league (with the possibility of still making the Europa league from that) outweighs dropping down and still having a difficult group?
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    Rangers are guaranteed group stage football of some form, Celtic and st Johnstone are one win away from that. Although it’s split by 5 rather than 4, we have a far higher chance of getting plenty bonus points from our sides. Even Aberdeen have been given a huge lifeline with them now playing the non seeds from the previous round.
    Aberdeen certainly won a watch and will be hot favourites to progress to the play offs.
    St Johnstone have a struggle on their hands

    0.7 of a point in the bag already.
    A further 7 would be another respectable season for Scotland.

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    Aberdeen certainly won a watch and will be hot favourites to progress to the play offs.
    St Johnstone have a struggle on their hands

    0.7 of a point in the bag already.
    A further 7 would be another respectable season for Scotland.
    St Johnstone will be seeded for the play off round of the conference league though won’t they? Taking Galatasaray’s seeding?

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    St Johnstone will be seeded for the play off round of the conference league though won’t they? Taking Galatasaray’s seeding?
    No. Galatasry are the 2nd best non seeds.
    Was watching results coming in last night, they needed 5 upsets at the top of the coefficient league, they only got 3.

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    No. Galatasry are the 2nd best non seeds.
    Was watching results coming in last night, they needed 5 upsets at the top of the coefficient league, they only got 3.
    That’s incredible, would’ve had money on them being seeded in conference league.

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    St Johnstone will be seeded for the play off round of the conference league though won’t they? Taking Galatasaray’s seeding?
    Don't know but most of the remaining dross will go out this round so it will almost certainly be a tough draw.
    They are obviously holding onto their star players until after the play off in the hope of winning a tie and hitting the big money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    Don't know but most of the remaining dross will go out this round so it will almost certainly be a tough draw.
    They are obviously holding onto their star players until after the play off in the hope of winning a tie and hitting the big money.
    If you see Juniper Greens post above they're not seeded

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    If you see Juniper Greens post above they're not seeded
    Got it thanks.
    Sadly I can see Scotland with only the OF standing before August is out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    Got it thanks.
    Sadly I can see Scotland with only the OF standing before August is out.
    You never know. If we win our tie we would only be one game away from the group stages. Aberdeen will have a very good chance of reaching the play off round after yesterday's results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    Don't know but most of the remaining dross will go out this round so it will almost certainly be a tough draw.
    They are obviously holding onto their star players until after the play off in the hope of winning a tie and hitting the big money.
    Overall, 87 teams have been eliminated, only 150 left, and only 6 countries with more teams left than us. Romania down to 1 team, Greece 2. Austria have actually lost ground to us, and down a team. Croatia doing well, but only 3 teams left...if we could knock them out we'd do wonders for the coefficient

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    When does the play off draw take place, should be in advance of R3 fixtures next week?

    Could be a tasty incentive knowing we have Spurs, Roma etc as a glamour tie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bringbackbenny View Post
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    When does the play off draw take place, should be in advance of R3 fixtures next week?

    Could be a tasty incentive knowing we have Spurs, Roma etc as a glamour tie!
    2nd August @ 13.00 for draw

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    When does the play off draw take place, should be in advance of R3 fixtures next week?

    Could be a tasty incentive knowing we have Spurs, Roma etc as a glamour tie!
    I’d rather not, I’d rather the worst seeded team there was. Gone are the days of wanting big ties before the groups, I want us progressing to the groups and then we can take our glamour ties - and more than one of them. The money and the coefficient involved would help us for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Reaper View Post
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    2nd August @ 13.00 for draw
    I'd rather play Spurs in the Final

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbysam View Post
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    I’d rather not, I’d rather the worst seeded team there was. Gone are the days of wanting big ties before the groups, I want us progressing to the groups and then we can take our glamour ties - and more than one of them. The money and the coefficient involved would help us for years.

    To be clear I'd rather get the lower ranking team as well! achieving the group stage would be game changing for Hibs.

    Nevertheless I think if I was a player getting the chance to play Vs Spurs it would be a massive incentive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJNB Hibby View Post
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    I'd rather play Spurs in the Final
    Spurs in a European final again? I like a laugh.

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    Where does the Scottish Cup Winner (or 3rd place if winner of SC is in top 2), enter in next season's European Qualifying? Tried having a look around but can only find info on the league position without the SC
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacBean View Post
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    Where does the Scottish Cup Winner (or 3rd place if winner of SC is in top 2), enter in next season's European Qualifying? Tried having a look around but can only find info on the league position without the SC

    Think I've found it - based on this access list the SC Winner would go into PO of Europa League and be guaranteed UECL Group stage, real incentive to finish 3rd (at least) this season should one of the top 2 win the SC.

    2022-23-uefa-access-list.pdf (kassiesa.net)
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