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Thread: 2021-22 UEFA Coefficient Thread
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02-08-2021 03:14 PM #61
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02-08-2021 03:14 PM #62This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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02-08-2021 03:21 PM #63This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Looking at WIKI (and I know it's not always 100% reliable), the champions this year only go into the playoff round.
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02-08-2021 09:06 PM #64
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03-08-2021 05:56 AM #65
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03-08-2021 08:56 AM #66This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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03-08-2021 09:11 AM #67This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Nothing like that will happen this year, the Europa league place for the 2022 scottish cup winner will 100% go straight into the Europa league play-offs.
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13-08-2021 11:24 AM #68
So, not a great week for the coefficient, 3 losses, and only 2 wins, but we still have 4 teams in the competitions, with 2 guaranteed group play.
The good news is we've overtaken Russia, and sit in 8th place. Plus Russia have had 2 teams knocked out. We've pulled further away from Austria...St Johnstone taking something from their tie against LASK Linz is vital.
Our biggest threat appears to be Belgium...who still have 5 teams left.Serbia have gained some ground, but have had 2 teams knocked out.
Also there are ECL group qualifying points still to be awarded to the teams who win the last Play-off round---Brondby knocking off RB Salzburg would be a big help.
Looking all the way down the list, the countries at the bottom are picking up more points than ever, which will help us, as long as we're not helping them.
In 2017-18, the bottom 10 teams picked up only 8.7 pts, but its been steadily rising, and so far they have picked up 16.8, with 5 teams still competing. Throw in Kosovo who are steadily climbing up the table, and will likely hit the top 25 in a couple of years.
In our last 3 very good years, we averaged 8.33 pts, so far only on 1.7, so a lot of work to do, but bettering the 4 we will lose next year is the prime target
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13-08-2021 12:18 PM #69This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I did notice Scotland overtake Russia and move into our glass ceiling position of 8th where I can see us sticking for some considerable time.
I haven't assessed their next opposition but a good chance that St J & Aberdeen will join us on the sidelines leaving the weegies to bring back the points.
Hibs will improve and do better in Europe next season if they can continue to bring in the quality of player they have been. The Ross rebuild will be complete in a years time. All his team at that point.
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13-08-2021 12:27 PM #70This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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13-08-2021 12:43 PM #71This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Meanwhile Russia will be plummeting down the table from 9th to 15th.Last edited by CMurdoch; 13-08-2021 at 01:05 PM.
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14-08-2021 01:10 PM #72
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Now thst we have 5 teams rather than 4, we will stop scoring 8 points a year, be 6 at most, eventually we might lose the 5th team for a year, get another 8 pointer, get it back etc. That's what the system is designed to do. Have a few yo yo countries that change from 4 to 5 countries regularly. That's where Scotland is realistically in the long term
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14-08-2021 01:42 PM #73This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
We probably need a constant 7.5 points a season to ensure we remain in the top 10.
With 5 teams a win is now worth 0.1 point less and a draw 0.05 point once the preliminaries are over, so perhaps the Old Firm return will be down by a point per season which should be picked up by the other Scottish teams. Hibs contributed 0.5 of a point before we lost on Thursday. Aberdeen have already contributed 0.6 point and St J. 0.1 point so 1.2 points from the non weegie teams to date.
FWIW I think Hibs will be better next season with the Lennon/Hecky to Ross rebuild complete and will almost certainly make the conference play off round with a chance to make the group stage. Obviously it is dependent on the quality of players coming in to players lost for fees.Last edited by CMurdoch; 14-08-2021 at 01:51 PM.
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17-08-2021 10:59 AM #74
So another week of Euro-qualifying starts, unfortunately the first sans Hibs
3 ECL qualifiers today, and amazingly 47th ranked Moldova have a team still involved---Sherrif Tiraspol!!
Would very much like to see them, Monaco and Brondby picking up wins
And in the one Europa League qualifier, CFR Cluj beating Red Star works to our advantage
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17-08-2021 10:31 PM #77
Is 2 for 4 not a bad cricket score?
Croatia and Austria won't be getting near Scotland for years in the coefficient unless the Old Firm completely fall apart at some point.Last edited by CMurdoch; 17-08-2021 at 10:36 PM.
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18-08-2021 12:02 AM #79
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18-08-2021 08:13 AM #81
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18-08-2021 07:38 PM #82This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Tonight, Sellick could help out with a win, theyre going to end up playing till Christmas anyway.
In the other matches, wins for Benfica, Ferencvaros and Ludogorets would be the best help
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19-08-2021 09:10 AM #85This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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19-08-2021 09:18 AM #86
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24-08-2021 10:57 AM #88
So the final set of play-off matches this week, and ECL qualifiers gain 4 points(divided by the number of teams)
Today, would like to see Ferencvaros knock off Young Boys, Benfica eliminate PSV, and Ludugorets overcome Malmo
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26-08-2021 10:18 AM #89
So Austria and Ukraine have made it very close with their teams qualifying for the ECL Group stages. We're now only .15 ahead of Austria, and 1.2 ahead of Ukraine. Hopefully St Johnstone can eliminate LASK
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26-08-2021 10:40 AM #90This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Scotland will lose only 4, Ukraine 8 and Austria 9.75
The hard work to maintain our points total will be in the seasons after that when we have to perform well to match our totals from 5 seasons previous.
I see Scotland locked in 8th place in the medium term always adrift of Holland in 7th with Belgium our chaser in 9th.
As ever we rely on the Old Firm but I can see Hibs continuing our slow seasonal team improvement and making the Conference Group stages from next season or the following one. Aberdeen and Hearts could manage the same although the elephant in the room for Aberdeen is the replacement of Pittodrie which will stop their teams progress.Last edited by CMurdoch; 26-08-2021 at 10:54 AM.
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