Ryder Cup 2021

[stantonhibby]

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One week to go and I can't wait. I always look at the teams and think the American's have the stronger team, but they rarely seem to play to their individual strengths. Again, this year, I think it'll go down to a few key matches that could swing either way. The fact that there will be 99% of the fans cheering the US should tip it in their favour, but let's hope that's not the case.

US Team:
Collin Morikawa
Dustin Johnson
Bryson DeChambeau
Brooks Koepka
Justin Thomas
Patrick Cantlay
Tony Finau
Xander Schauffele
Jordan Spieth
Harris English
Daniel Berger
Scottie Scheffler

Europe Team:
Jon Rahm
Tommy Fleetwood
Tyrrell Hatton
Bernd Wiesberger
Rory McIlroy
Viktor Hovland
Paul Casey
Matt Fitzpatrick
Lee Westwood
Shane Lowry
Sergio Garcia
Ian Poulter

Aye should be good.

USA have the Dechambeau/Koepka dynamic to deal with. Koepka's comments this week about the competition were a bit odd. Wasn't exactly sounding up for it!

[WeeRussell]

I think USA will win (unless they really can’t be ar*ed.. as there’s plenty Europeans that will be right up for it). But I’ve thought that before.

Hope to see a fair bit of the action.

[greenlex]

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Aye should be good.

USA have the Dechambeau/Koepka dynamic to deal with. Koepka's comments this week about the competition were a bit odd. Wasn't exactly sounding up for it!

I have a strange feeling we will see Bryson paired with Brooks at some point this week.

[WeeRussell]

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I have a strange feeling we will see Bryson paired with Brooks at some point this week.

If they want to ensure a few more viewers it wouldn't be a bad idea

[Tobias Funke]

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I have a strange feeling we will see Bryson paired with Brooks at some point this week.

Not a chance, Stricker would be strung up if he pulled such a trick and they lost the cup (again).

We won’t see those guys paired, they genuinely dislike each other.

[theonlywayisup]

Wonder what our opening fourball/foursomes will be?

Jon Rahm / Rory McIlroy
Viktor Hovland / Paul Casey
Shane Lowry / Sergio Garcia
Lee Westwood / Ian Poulter

Think that's our best eight form players, with the following left for the afternoon:


Tommy Fleetwood
Tyrrell Hatton
Bernd Wiesberger
Matt Fitzpatrick

Don't know if they've announced what format is first.

[hibeg]

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Wonder what our opening fourball/foursomes will be?

Jon Rahm / Rory McIlroy
Viktor Hovland / Paul Casey
Shane Lowry / Sergio Garcia
Lee Westwood / Ian Poulter

Think that's our best eight form players, with the following left for the afternoon:


Tommy Fleetwood
Tyrrell Hatton
Bernd Wiesberger
Matt Fitzpatrick

Don't know if they've announced what format is first.

Pretty sure it’s always foursomes first, unless they have changed the rules ?
Personally think Lee Westwood may be a weak link as hasn’t really had any form this year, and if Shane Lowry played his way into the team then I don’t think he would have got a captains pick.

[theonlywayisup]

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Pretty sure it’s always foursomes first, unless they have changed the rules ?

I'm pretty sure that the home team decides on which is played first. Wikipedia states "Currently the home captain decides before the contest starts whether the fourball or foursomes matches are played in the morning. He may choose a different order for the two days." For this Ryder Cup it's as follows:

Friday, 24 September:

Foursome: 1:05pm, 1:21pm, 1:37pm, 1:53pm

Fourball: 6:10pm, 6:26pm, 6:42pm, 6:58pm

Saturday, 25 September:

Foursome: 1:05pm, 1:21pm, 1:37pm, 1:53pm

Fourball: 6:10pm, 6:26pm, 6:42pm, 6:58pm

Sunday, 26 September:

Singles matches: Starts at 5:04pm, then games follow at 11-minute intervals

[hibeg]

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I'm pretty sure that the home team decides on which is played first. Wikipedia states "Currently the home captain decides before the contest starts whether the fourball or foursomes matches are played in the morning. He may choose a different order for the two days." For this Ryder Cup it's as follows:

Friday, 24 September:

Foursome: 1:05pm, 1:21pm, 1:37pm, 1:53pm

Fourball: 6:10pm, 6:26pm, 6:42pm, 6:58pm

Saturday, 25 September:

Foursome: 1:05pm, 1:21pm, 1:37pm, 1:53pm

Fourball: 6:10pm, 6:26pm, 6:42pm, 6:58pm

Sunday, 26 September:

Singles matches: Starts at 5:04pm, then games follow at 11-minute intervals

Cheers, didn’t know that.

Can’t wait for it to start tomorrow

[theonlywayisup]

1305 BST Jon Rahm/Sergio Garcia (EUR) vs Justin Thomas/Jordan Spieth (USA)
1321 BST Paul Casey/Viktor Hovland (EUR) vs Dustin Johnson/Collin Morikawa (USA)
1337 BST Lee Westwood/Matt Fitzpatrick (EUR) vs Brooks Koepka/Daniel Berger (USA)
1353 BST Rory McIlroy/Ian Poulter (EUR) vs Patrick Cantlay/Xander Schauffele (USA)

Can't wait for the action to start.

[AugustaHibs]

Get into these yanks

[Smartie]

It looks like a lot will depend on whether or not the old European warhorses can rise to the occasion, as they have a decent record of doing in the past.

If the likes of Poulter and Garcia play the way they've been playing of late, this could be a pasting.

If they rise to the occasion, as they have so many times in the past, then it could be a different story.

I look at those pairings and don't see Europe having a chance though.

[Hiber-nation]

Bit like a Trump rally out there. Would make it even sweeter if we could.pump them.

[Jim44]

I don’t mind the Yanks showing strong and loud support for their team but I think cheering and applauding European mistakes and misfortune is pathetic.

[greenlex]

A handful of holes in and some exceptional golf already.

[greenlex]

Great first session of golf from the Americans in that format .

[mayo hibee]

Poulter certainly not justifying the captain's pick so far, this course doesn't really suit him anyway, would have been much better off with Justin Rose.

For the afternoon Harrington should lead off with Garcia and Rahm again, they need to get the next point on the board. Lowry and McIlroy makes sense as a pairing, they are friends off the course.

After that maybe Fleetwood/Hatton and Hovland/Weisberger as the other pairings to make sure everyone plays a match on day one and to get some of the deadwood like Poulter, Casey and Westwood off the course.

[blackpoolhibs]

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Poulter certainly not justifying the captain's pick so far, this course doesn't really suit him anyway, would have been much better off with Justin Rose.

For the afternoon Harrington should lead off with Garcia and Rahm again, they need to get the next point on the board. Lowry and McIlroy makes sense as a pairing, they are friends off the course.

After that maybe Fleetwood/Hatton and Hovland/Weisberger as the other pairings to make sure everyone plays a match on day one and to get some of the deadwood like Poulter, Casey and Westwood off the course.

I agree, the postman has been on strike most of the last year, i think this is one ryder cup too many for him.

We are much weaker all through the squad than them, cant see anything but a heavy defeat.

[hibbysam]

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I don’t mind the Yanks showing strong and loud support for their team but I think cheering and applauding European mistakes and misfortune is pathetic.

Not for me, it’s not worth any prize money or ranking points so should be treated as it’s meant to be, a competitive but fan friendly exhibition. Booing and jeering, cheering mis-hits and misfortune and players getting the crowd rev’d up is all part of it.

[mayo hibee]

I think it's ok to a point but shouting "in the water" and "fore" when they have no idea where the ball is going is pretty pathetic.

[Jim44]

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Not for me, it’s not worth any prize money or ranking points so should be treated as it’s meant to be, a competitive but fan friendly exhibition. Booing and jeering, cheering mis-hits and misfortune and players getting the crowd rev’d up is all part of it.

I get your point but don’t really agree with you.

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I think it's ok to a point but shouting "in the water" and "fore" when they have no idea where the ball is going is pretty pathetic.

Classless but hey ho.

........ plus, the Yanks get cheered all the way and the Europeans get booed all the way.

[lord bunberry]

If Europe can get out with a 5-3 deficit they’ll be ecstatic. Too many players either out of form or not good enough anymore.

[DaveF]

Americans are draining putts all over the place. Only Rahm looks in decent nick for Europe so far.

[JimBHibees]

How poor is Mcilroy absolutely awful. Don't think I have seen him putt anything all day.

[mayo hibee]

Europe just seem to have too many weak links here. Other than Garcia (inexplicably left out of this session) the older crowd look past it - Casey, Poulter and Westwood. Then there's the likes of Fitzpatrick and Wiesberger who always looked like potential weak links (though Wiesberger is trying hard to be fair). On top of that they really couldn't afford to have McIlroy looking so far off his game also, and Lowry has done little.

That's just too many weak links for the others - Garcia, Rahm, Hovland, Fleetwood and Hatton to carry.

If they can get out of today at 5-3 they'll have been unbelievably fortunate but it's not looking too likely at the moment.

[greenlex]

I think USA could dominate the Ryder cup for quite a while. Outside of Rahm and Hovland there is no other Europeans capable of dominating in the game right now. Detry might given time and possibly Weisberger but I’m not sure who the next really good batch are.

[hibbysam]

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I get your point but don’t really agree with you.



Classless but hey ho.

........ plus, the Yanks get cheered all the way and the Europeans get booed all the way.

No difference to us celebrating an opposition player making an arse of something during a game, or cheering our own players. It’s a team game and all based on where you are from. Totally different to every other week on tour.

[lord bunberry]

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No difference to us celebrating an opposition player making an arse of something during a game, or cheering our own players. It’s a team game and all based on where you are from. Totally different to every other week on tour.

It’s not my cup of tea to be honest, I don’t mind the chanting and the over the top atmosphere, but shouting for the ball to miss or go in the water is so far removed from the way golf is played that it just seems wrong. Anyone who plays golf will tell you it’s all about being respectful and supportive.

[lord bunberry]

6-2 at the close of play. Europe probably need at least 5 points tomorrow.

[AugustaHibs]

Spieths shot from the bottom of the cliff was one of the best shots I’ve ever seen.

Bryson’s 417 yard drive was up there too, for totally different reasons.

Tony finau was unfortunately absolutely incredible today, did he miss a putt from within 30ft today?