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    Ryder Cup 2021

    Only three months to go until the 2021 Ryder Cup starts on the 24th September. As in previous years, it's going to be very interesting to see who makes the team.

    As of 23rd June, the latest standings are:

    European Points List


    1. Jon Rahm – 8,516
    2. Tommy Fleetwood – 4,999
    3. Tyrrell Hatton – 4,861
    4. Rory McIlroy – 4,418

    World Points List


    1. Paul Casey – 266.25
    2. Viktor Hovland – 245.06
    3. Lee Westwood – 232.48
    4. Matthew Fitzpatrick – 213.76
    5. Victor Perez – 187.37


    Others close by include Bernd Wiesberger, Guido Migliozzi, Robert MacIntyre, Shane Lowry, Justin Rose, Sergio Garcia, Danny Willett and Ian Poulter.

    Team looking pretty strong already. No Molinari nor Stenson in the top 10 in either European or World List and don't think they are playing well enough to merit a pick. But all can and will change over the summer.

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    Latest automatic team selection below, being a mix of Euro list and World list.

    Jon Rahm
    Rory McIlroy
    Viktor Hovland
    Paul Casey
    Tyrrell Hatton
    Matt Fitzpatrick
    Lee Westwood
    Tommy Fleetwood
    Shane Lowry

    Then three picks - you would think Poulter and maybe Rose would get picks. As always, looks a strong team, but think they'll struggle in the USA.

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    I see that Bob Macintyre is playing the next 3 tournaments in the USA on the 2nd tier Korn Ferry tour as he is trying to get his tour card for next season. Looks like he will miss the cut in the first one 👎
    He may be confident that he will get one of the captains picks!
    Risky strategy I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibeg View Post
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    I see that Bob Macintyre is playing the next 3 tournaments in the USA on the 2nd tier Korn Ferry tour as he is trying to get his tour card for next season. Looks like he will miss the cut in the first one ��
    He may be confident that he will get one of the captains picks!
    Risky strategy I think
    Personally I think he will get a captains pick but he had a mare yesterday if I was looking at the right leaderboard. However formidable the USA teamlooksI think ours is shaping up very nicely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibeg View Post
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    I see that Bob Macintyre is playing the next 3 tournaments in the USA on the 2nd tier Korn Ferry tour as he is trying to get his tour card for next season. Looks like he will miss the cut in the first one 👎
    He may be confident that he will get one of the captains picks!
    Risky strategy I think
    I would have said it's more likely that he has just given up on it this time around to be honest. I can't see him being near a captains pick, they're generally held back for experienced Ryder Cup players and major winners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mayo hibee View Post
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    I would have said it's more likely that he has just given up on it this time around to be honest. I can't see him being near a captains pick, they're generally held back for experienced Ryder Cup players and major winners.
    I would disagree Mayo. His record over the last couple of years in majors and regular events was outstanding. He never even missed a cut this season. He played with Harrington and Karlsson numerous times as they were keeping an eye on him.
    In saying that, his form has disappeared at the wrong time. He has missed the last 2 cuts on the Korn Ferry tour and I see he is now not playing in the final event this week, or the Italian Open in Europe.
    All very weird !

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibeg View Post
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    I would disagree Mayo. His record over the last couple of years in majors and regular events was outstanding. He never even missed a cut this season. He played with Harrington and Karlsson numerous times as they were keeping an eye on him.
    In saying that, his form has disappeared at the wrong time. He has missed the last 2 cuts on the Korn Ferry tour and I see he is now not playing in the final event this week, or the Italian Open in Europe.
    All very weird !
    He is resting up and hoping To do enough at Wentworth. I don’t think he will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theonlywayisup View Post
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    Latest automatic team selection below, being a mix of Euro list and World list.

    Jon Rahm
    Rory McIlroy
    Viktor Hovland
    Paul Casey
    Tyrrell Hatton
    Matt Fitzpatrick
    Lee Westwood
    Tommy Fleetwood
    Shane Lowry

    Then three picks - you would think Poulter and maybe Rose would get picks. As always, looks a strong team, but think they'll struggle in the USA.
    Poulter,Rose and Garcia will prob get the picks imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stantonhibby View Post
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    Poulter,Rose and Garcia will prob get the picks imo.
    Poulter is a no brainer, Rose I’d definitely pick too. Garcia I’m not so sure about.

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    Poulter is a no brainer, Rose I’d definitely pick too. Garcia I’m not so sure about.
    Agree! I'm sure I read that Harrington and Garcia don't get on, so a Captain's Pick looks unlikely to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theonlywayisup View Post
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    Agree! I'm sure I read that Harrington and Garcia don't get on, so a Captain's Pick looks unlikely to me.
    Yeah read that too, also Garcia hasn’t been in great form recently, now out of the worlds top 50. Albeit a rookie I’d rather give someone with a bit of form a chance like Perez.

    Harrington could try F Molinari and see if he and Fleetwood can rediscover that Paris magic but kind of defeats my argument against Garcia and his form, he’s slipped to outside the worlds top 150. Think he missed a lot of golf due to the pandemic.

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    Great effort from the ladies to win the Solheim away from home, similar to the men in terms of world rankings they should have been well beaten. 4.5 points by Leona Maguire on debut was especially impressive.

    Seems like Poulter, Garcia and Rose will be the three wild card picks for the Ryder Cup if the expected nine qualify automatically.

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    US team announced.

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    US team announced.
    No Patrick Reed? Big call.

    When he was ill with bilateral pneumonia the Ryder Cup seemed a long way off but he got back to playing again at the weekend there.

    The Americans aren't exactly short of good players, but Reed would always be somebody you'd expect them to find a space for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    No Patrick Reed? Big call.

    When he was ill with bilateral pneumonia the Ryder Cup seemed a long way off but he got back to playing again at the weekend there.

    The Americans aren't exactly short of good players, but Reed would always be somebody you'd expect them to find a space for.
    Not sure he is that popular. Had a moan at Spieth back in 2018 and by extension, Furyk.

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    One of the interesting aspects of this Ryder Cup will be the relationship between Bryson DeChambeau and Brooks Koepka. They really do hate each other. I'd imagine it'll get nasty if the US don't win and their row is deemed to have affected team morale.

    Bryson DeChambeau & Brooks Koepka row: Fans face expulsion if they shout 'Brooksie' - BBC Sport

    Maybe it will be in the US best interests if BK has to pull out due to injury.

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    Wiesberger gets into the automatic spots ahead of Lowry. So now it looks like three from four for the wildcards with one missing out from Garcia, Rose, Lowry and Poulter. On form Poulter should be the one to miss out but Harrington has said previously he was likely to pick Garcia and Poulter. If he sticks to that then either Rose or Lowry would miss out.

    Bringing Poulter, but as a vice captain, might be one way to pick them all.
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    Garcia, Lowry and Poulter get the picks. Rose the one to miss out.

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    One week to go and I can't wait. I always look at the teams and think the American's have the stronger team, but they rarely seem to play to their individual strengths. Again, this year, I think it'll go down to a few key matches that could swing either way. The fact that there will be 99% of the fans cheering the US should tip it in their favour, but let's hope that's not the case.

    US Team:
    Collin Morikawa
    Dustin Johnson
    Bryson DeChambeau
    Brooks Koepka
    Justin Thomas
    Patrick Cantlay
    Tony Finau
    Xander Schauffele
    Jordan Spieth
    Harris English
    Daniel Berger
    Scottie Scheffler

    Europe Team:
    Jon Rahm
    Tommy Fleetwood
    Tyrrell Hatton
    Bernd Wiesberger
    Rory McIlroy
    Viktor Hovland
    Paul Casey
    Matt Fitzpatrick
    Lee Westwood
    Shane Lowry
    Sergio Garcia
    Ian Poulter

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    Quote Originally Posted by theonlywayisup View Post
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    One week to go and I can't wait. I always look at the teams and think the American's have the stronger team, but they rarely seem to play to their individual strengths. Again, this year, I think it'll go down to a few key matches that could swing either way. The fact that there will be 99% of the fans cheering the US should tip it in their favour, but let's hope that's not the case.

    US Team:
    Collin Morikawa
    Dustin Johnson
    Bryson DeChambeau
    Brooks Koepka
    Justin Thomas
    Patrick Cantlay
    Tony Finau
    Xander Schauffele
    Jordan Spieth
    Harris English
    Daniel Berger
    Scottie Scheffler

    Europe Team:
    Jon Rahm
    Tommy Fleetwood
    Tyrrell Hatton
    Bernd Wiesberger
    Rory McIlroy
    Viktor Hovland
    Paul Casey
    Matt Fitzpatrick
    Lee Westwood
    Shane Lowry
    Sergio Garcia
    Ian Poulter

    Aye should be good.

    USA have the Dechambeau/Koepka dynamic to deal with. Koepka's comments this week about the competition were a bit odd. Wasn't exactly sounding up for it!

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    Aye should be good.

    USA have the Dechambeau/Koepka dynamic to deal with. Koepka's comments this week about the competition were a bit odd. Wasn't exactly sounding up for it!
    I have a strange feeling we will see Bryson paired with Brooks at some point this week.

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    I have a strange feeling we will see Bryson paired with Brooks at some point this week.
    If they want to ensure a few more viewers it wouldn't be a bad idea

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    I have a strange feeling we will see Bryson paired with Brooks at some point this week.
    Not a chance, Stricker would be strung up if he pulled such a trick and they lost the cup (again).

    We won’t see those guys paired, they genuinely dislike each other.

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    I think USA will win (unless they really can’t be ar*ed.. as there’s plenty Europeans that will be right up for it). But I’ve thought that before.

    Hope to see a fair bit of the action.

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    1305 BST Jon Rahm/Sergio Garcia (EUR) vs Justin Thomas/Jordan Spieth (USA)
    1321 BST Paul Casey/Viktor Hovland (EUR) vs Dustin Johnson/Collin Morikawa (USA)
    1337 BST Lee Westwood/Matt Fitzpatrick (EUR) vs Brooks Koepka/Daniel Berger (USA)
    1353 BST Rory McIlroy/Ian Poulter (EUR) vs Patrick Cantlay/Xander Schauffele (USA)

    Can't wait for the action to start.

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    Get into these yanks

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    It looks like a lot will depend on whether or not the old European warhorses can rise to the occasion, as they have a decent record of doing in the past.

    If the likes of Poulter and Garcia play the way they've been playing of late, this could be a pasting.

    If they rise to the occasion, as they have so many times in the past, then it could be a different story.

    I look at those pairings and don't see Europe having a chance though.

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    Bit like a Trump rally out there. Would make it even sweeter if we could.pump them.

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    I don’t mind the Yanks showing strong and loud support for their team but I think cheering and applauding European mistakes and misfortune is pathetic.

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    A handful of holes in and some exceptional golf already.

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