Hibs players who should have won more international caps (not just Scottish ones)

[He's here!]

I was having a look through a list of capped Hibs players and while the fact there were a lot less international games played in earlier generations, it still struck me as remarkable that Darren Jackson won significantly more caps than Gordon Smith and Pat Stanton. I was a big fan of Darren's when he was at Hibs but he's a long way short of the legendary status that pair command at Easter Road.

What also jumped out was the fact Joe Baker won only eight England caps. I'm guessing he maybe did well to win that many, bearing in mind the much bigger pool of players he was up against, but according to my dad he was good enough to have earned a place in the England squad for the 1966 World Cup.

I note Russell Latapy won 81 Trinidad and Tobago caps. Is he our most capped ex-player (albeit he won many of those caps when he was playing elsewhere)?

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I was having a look through a list of capped Hibs players and while the fact there were a lot less international games played in earlier generations, it still struck me as remarkable that Darren Jackson won significantly more caps than Gordon Smith and Pat Stanton. I was a big fan of Darren's when he was at Hibs but he's a long way short of the legendary status that pair command at Easter Road.

What also jumped out was the fact Joe Baker won only eight England caps. I'm guessing he maybe did well to win that many, bearing in mind the much bigger pool of players he was up against, but according to my dad he was good enough to have earned a place in the England squad for the 1966 World Cup.

I note Russell Latapy won 81 Trinidad and Tobago caps. Is he our most capped ex-player (albeit he won many of those caps when he was playing elsewhere)?

Jim Leighton has 91

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[CmoantheHibs]

Jonathon johannson got 105, Mark Milligan and Jorge Claros also managed a few caps too

[Cat Stanton]

Jonatan Johansson had 105 - which is about 104 more appearances than he made for Hibs.

And everyone's favourite Hibee, Ray Wilkins, was capped 80-odd times for Ingerland. Probably not when he was at Hibs though...

Probably not the kind of examples you had in mind though
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[Renfrew_Hibby]

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Jim Leighton has 91

De La Cruz 101

I'm sure Big Jim won around 25 of those 91 caps while playing with us. Am I right in thinking he's our 2nd most capped player, only behind Reilly?

[Scorrie]

Always thought it was a crying shame that Keith Wright only won a single cap. Deserved far more in my view

[Bostonhibby]

Alan Rough had a very creditable 63 caps.

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[PatHead]

Gary Caldwell got 55 caps for Scotland! Pat Stanton got 16.

[EastThomasSTboy]

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Gary Caldwell got 55 caps for Scotland! Pat Stanton got 16.

Pat got 16 Full Caps, but lets not forget his 6 International League Appearances, 3 U-23 Appearances and once as an over-age player in the U-21 team when he used his experience to bolster the younger team.
Also Captained the team on numerous occasions.

[basehibby]

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Pat got 16 Full Caps, but lets not forget his 6 International League Appearances, 3 U-23 Appearances and once as an over-age player in the U-21 team when he used his experience to bolster the younger team.
Also Captained the team on numerous occasions.

Still a bafflingly low tally for a player who oozed class and was probably the pick of what was a great Hibs team - I wonder who his competition was in the Scotland midfield over the course of his career

[Haymaker]

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Still a bafflingly low tally for a player who oozed class and was probably the pick of what was a great Hibs team - I wonder who his competition was in the Scotland midfield over the course of his career

It's ridiculous he only played 16 times.

[EastThomasSTboy]

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Still a bafflingly low tally for a player who oozed class and was probably the pick of what was a great Hibs team - I wonder who his competition was in the Scotland midfield over the course of his career

Pats versatility in his younger days probably worked against him as his preference then was to play at the back.

Later on his competition would include Dave Smith, Ron McKinnon, Bobby Moncur, Bobby Murdoch, Billy Bremner John Hughes, David hay, Archie Gemmill, Lou Macari , Lorimer and Cropley.

Hardly a shoddy bunch.

[CentreLine]

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Pats versatility in his younger days probably worked against him as his preference then was to play at the back.

Later on his competition would include Dave Smith, Ron McKinnon, Bobby Moncur, Bobby Murdoch, Billy Bremner John Hughes, David hay, Archie Gemmill, Lou Macari , Lorimer and Cropley.

Hardly a shoddy bunch.

Yep, we had an embarrassment of riches in those days

[brog]

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Pat got 16 Full Caps, but lets not forget his 6 International League Appearances, 3 U-23 Appearances and once as an over-age player in the U-21 team when he used his experience to bolster the younger team.
Also Captained the team on numerous occasions.

IIRC Pat only Captained Scotland one, vs Russia. Pat 16 caps, Roy Aitken 50 +, shameful.

[whiskyhibby]

For non Hibs players , how about Andy Driver, a £50M player and should have been a Champions League winner but never got a sniff for the Scotland full team……travesty…🤣🤣🤣

[EastThomasSTboy]

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IIRC Pat only Captained Scotland one, vs Russia. Pat 16 caps, Roy Aitken 50 +, shameful.

Yeah, Russia away in 1971, was a highlight, but my wee personal notes, also have him Captaining the U 23 side twice (1966 & 68), Captaining the Scottish League v League of Ireland (1970), and Squad Captain for the Home International Tournament in 1973, Captaining the team against Wales and Ireland.

My wee notes might be all be wrong though!!

[brog]

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Yeah, Russia away in 1971, was a highlight, but my wee personal notes, also have him Captaining the U 23 side twice (1966 & 68), Captaining the Scottish League v League of Ireland (1970), and Squad Captain for the Home International Tournament in 1973, Captaining the team against Wales and Ireland.

My wee notes might be all be wrong though!!

No, I'm sure your notes are spot on. My memory of the Russia game was that Pat was dropped or relieved of captaincy after that game. In the Home Internationals although he was captain for 1st 2 games Pat knew he wasn't going to be picked against England. There was a story about it but I can't remember now!

[Jones28]

Did Ivan Sproule ever get a cap?

[Ryan91]

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Did Ivan Sproule ever get a cap?

Seem to recall him getting a call up after his hat trick at Ibrox against Old Rangers but no idea if he ever made an appearance

Edit - Wikipedia says 11 caps, 1 goal

[JimBHibees]

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Did Ivan Sproule ever get a cap?

Definitely got a few caps for Northern Ireland.

Absolutely scandalous guys like Alex Edwards wasn't recognised internationally.

[Haymaker]

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Did Ivan Sproule ever get a cap?

Came on against England if I remember. Might even have assisted the goal. Pretty sure NI won 1-0?

[Lancs Harp]

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Came on against England if I remember. Might even have assisted the goal. Pretty sure NI won 1-0?

Think that might have been his international debut. Cant remember how many caps he got but he got a few more after that im sure.

[Haymaker]

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Think that might have been his international debut. Cant remember how many caps he got but he got a few more after that im sure.

Pretty sure it was

[Is It On....]

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Did Ivan Sproule ever get a cap?

He made his debut against England 🙂

[zitelli62]

Alex Edwards never got a cap biggest crime of the last century absolutely scandalous.

[JimBHibees]

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Alex Edwards never got a cap biggest crime of the last century absolutely scandalous.

Great minds and all that.

[Iggy Pope]

Obviously less international games were played back then, but my auld fellah would rant on all night if you let him, about how the selectors would always keep one of the famous five out of a side as they hated not only Hibs, but also Hearts. Particularly, he would suggest, someone like Willie Waddell keeping anything as ethereal as Gordon Smith out of any team never mind a Scotland one was obscene. Not that it ingrained with me or anything all these 50 years later but he wasn't half right.

[Argylehibby]

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Alex Edwards never got a cap biggest crime of the last century absolutely scandalous.

100% agree with that. Wee Jimmy scored goals for fun as well and never got a sniff which was just as scandalous.

[Unseen work]

For the quality Riordan had he should have had a far better international (and club) career than he did.

[Brightside]

Pail Hanlon should be on about 30.