I'm the opposite of that. We have people on here saying they are still raging? Like really. Are they still walking about the place in a rage? That makes no sense to me at all. If you are carrying around those feelings that is not a healthy position to be in. Or do you just feel the rage when you start typing on the forum?This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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01-06-2021 10:38 AM #121
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01-06-2021 10:39 AM #122This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
That can only come through time and makes them greater than the sum of their parts. There’s a reason Craig, Swanson and Drey Wright have looked a shadow of the players they were at Saints compared to their time at us.
You don’t develop a good team by chopping and changing all the time.
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01-06-2021 10:39 AM #123This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Occasionally would be nice though.
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01-06-2021 10:40 AM #124This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If someone asked me about it I’d probably say “I’m still raging” when thinking back to it but I wouldn’t say I’m angry in general because of it
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01-06-2021 10:40 AM #125
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01-06-2021 10:40 AM #126This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote"...when Hibs won the Scottish Cup final and that celebration, Sunshine on Leith? I don’t think there’s a better football celebration ever in the game.”
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01-06-2021 10:41 AM #127This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
In the end it’s just the on the pitch stuff that matters.
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01-06-2021 10:41 AM #128This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Do you think your security can keep you in purity, you will not shake us off above or below. Scottish friction, Scottish fiction
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01-06-2021 10:42 AM #129
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But we also have players who have been at the Club years and years and years...................
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01-06-2021 10:43 AM #130This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
FWIW, based on spend/size of club we underachieve compared to St Johnstone.
The thing that makes a big difference, imho, is St Johnstone stick by their manager during tough periods. Davidson lost seven out of his first ten games, iirc.
We’ve folk who chase Ross after every defeat, we’ve had something in the region of 5 or 6 managers in the time they’ve had two. There’s something to be said for stability and letting managers get time to deliver.Follow the Hibs podcast, Longbangers, on Twitter (@longbangers)
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01-06-2021 10:45 AM #131This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteFollow the Hibs podcast, Longbangers, on Twitter (@longbangers)
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01-06-2021 10:45 AM #132
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Its just amazing what St Johnstone and Calum Davidson have achieved to be fair and echos the point for stability.
I just hope we can build something here by selling Nisbet Porteous and Doig.
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01-06-2021 10:49 AM #133This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Nobody is basing it purely on wage bill and training facilities from what I can see although they’re also factors that would lead me to expect to beat them.
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01-06-2021 10:52 AM #134This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Or to take that point further, would you expect us to finish above Celtic next season if we stick with Jack Ross and if not, why not?
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01-06-2021 10:53 AM #135This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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01-06-2021 10:57 AM #136
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We laugh at Hearts for their big team mentality and persona but that's exactly what we need to have. The mentality of a big club and not accepting mediocrity. I couldn't care if it's our first time finishing 3rd in 16 years or 4th time in 40 years. We should be finishing 3rd and it was a weak 3rd this year.
Do Hearts or Aberdeen even celebrate finishing 3rd?
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01-06-2021 10:57 AM #137This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteFollow the Hibs podcast, Longbangers, on Twitter (@longbangers)
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01-06-2021 10:59 AM #139This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Tell me though, why are Hibs always a 'work in progress' (which I agree with incidentally), and St Johnstone are dual trophy winners this season? They looked like relegation fodder when their rookie Manager came in earlier in the season. What is it that they are doing right and what can Hibs learn from them? Some things seem obvious - a stronger mentality, work ethic off the ball and tactical awareness.
On your point about arrogance, there is no arrogance in Hibs (the club and fans) having the self-belief and confidence to win against a club with significantly less resources than ours. Perhaps the arrogance is in fielding the same team and using the same tactics which have failed repeatedly time after time; somehow thinking that we must win as the opposition's players are inferior to ours?
You are right to say JR has improved us during in the time he has been in post and his job is clearly safe for now. The results in next season's big games (Hearts and cup games) however will determine his future. There is significant room for improvement but I hope he succeeds.
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01-06-2021 11:00 AM #141
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CAN SOMEONE TELL US WHAT NOT ACCEPTING MEDIOCRITY LOOKS LIKE?"...when Hibs won the Scottish Cup final and that celebration, Sunshine on Leith? I don’t think there’s a better football celebration ever in the game.”
Sir Alex Ferguson
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01-06-2021 11:08 AM #144This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
We are not good enough to beat St Johnstone in a single match on a regular basis yet. We are good enough over the course of the season to accumulate more points than them.
We need to train our players better in a number of styles, build that understanding in the squad of the ways in which we play and of each other and also improve tactically.
I’m confident that Jack Ross is the man in time to reflect on the season just completed and implement training, coaching and recruitment that will see us develop further in time. He’s an articulate modern manager who fits the mould of what we need.
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01-06-2021 11:09 AM #145This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You say we need to adopt Hearts' winning mentality, then it's pointed out they got relegated so you just go off on a tangent about something else?
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01-06-2021 11:11 AM #146This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
As incredibly frustrating (and disgraceful if I'm being honest) as our 2 Hampden performances were against St Johnstone it's abundantly clear to anyone with even half a brain that the club is far closer to providing us with real success than they have been for ages. We have good owners, a good squad, and good coaching staff- yet these hysterical clowns are genuinely advocating that we rip it all up and start again at this point? To read comments like 'if we don't win something soon Jack Ross has to go' is genuinely incredible considering where we we were prior to him taking over. People forget how quickly thing can turn the other way.
Instant success will never be something you can realistically expect in Scotland seeing as you're up against 2 clubs that have far greater resources. Yes we should have nailed a trophy this season and the disappointment will be there for a long time but we could also be on the cusp of a long run of being consistently good - something that has been very rare in my lifetime. This mentality a few seem to have of wanting to hound managers very early really is not a good thing.
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01-06-2021 11:11 AM #147This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
We should be planning for the future already and getting someone like David Gray or Darren McGregor prepared to take over from Jack Ross ideally two, three or even four seasons down the line so we have that succession in place, an understanding of the team style from the get go and we don’t have that upheaval all over again.Last edited by Northernhibee; 01-06-2021 at 11:13 AM.
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01-06-2021 11:13 AM #148This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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01-06-2021 11:14 AM #149
Hibs players seem to blow hot and cold. Do we as fans over rate some of our players just because they wear the green & white. No matter who our coach is and whether or not you like Jack Ross or not I personally feel it is the players fault for the inconsistencies we have witnessed this season. Other than McGregor & Gray we have no real leaders on the park. The coaches can only coach and it’s up to the players to sort it out in the pitch and win their individual battles. We are getting outplayed by teams that on paper we are better than. I don’t have all the answers but we need to sort this out for next season. Great getting 3rd but could have been so so much better and these types of opportunities don’t come around often enough.
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01-06-2021 11:17 AM #150This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Rooney
Middleton
Conway
Bryson
Melamed
Brown
Zlamal
Previous season they signed (amongst others)
Booth
McCart
6 of the 11 played in the cup final (one off the bench) so I'm not buying this "played with each other for years" - not sure who said it but it's in this thread and then people are agreeing off the back of it.
I'm over the result, I just like accuracy.
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