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    It’s been confirmed on DU website, he’s the assistant Head Coach
    Think they’ve signed David Tanner too, as he did the new coach interview for DUTV😀
    That would be the best news of the close season so far


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    Can't see Dundee United shifting many season tickets. Bizzare appointment.
    They’ve been on sale a while and think majority have already renewed

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    The appointment of Tam Courts as Dundee United manager is an interesting one.

    Whether he succeeds or not is of no real interest to me,but it makes a refreshing change for a club to give a younger coach a chance rather than going with the usual tired,tried and tested ones (I won’t bother listing who I’m referring to,you all know who they are).

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    Have Dun Utd put a Director of Football in place? A bit odd to throw the young guy in on this if he doesnt have coverage from above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightside View Post
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    Have Dun Utd put a Director of Football in place? A bit odd to throw the young guy in on this if he doesnt have coverage from above.
    They have a sporting director, Tony Asghar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightside View Post
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    Have Dun Utd put a Director of Football in place? A bit odd to throw the young guy in on this if he doesnt have coverage from above.
    Not that I'm aware of, saves money not having one.

    Do they work in Scottish Football?

    I'm not convinced, possibly hindrance more than help / coverage.

    Certainly never worked at our noisy neighbours

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    The appointment of Tam Courts as Dundee United manager is an interesting one.

    Whether he succeeds or not is of no real interest to me,but it makes a refreshing change for a club to give a younger coach a chance rather than going with the usual tired,tried and tested ones (I won’t bother listing who I’m referring to,you all know who they are).
    A part of me hopes he's a success (as long as it isn't to the detriment of Hibs obviously). Like you say it's a change from the norm. Have a feeling it won't go well though. I think players need someone who can instantly command a bit of respect. 5 games for Livi in the first division and managing Kelty won't get that. Could be completely wrong mind you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoopyboy View Post
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    Not that I'm aware of, saves money not having one.

    Do they work in Scottish Football?

    I'm not convinced, possibly hindrance more than help / coverage.

    Certainly never worked at our noisy neighbours
    It's basically Mathie's role for us, no?

    which has worked very well since he was brought in.

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    Am I the only one who's never heard of Tam Courts before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    Am I the only one who's never heard of Tam Courts before.
    Me neither

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    Am I the only one who's never heard of Tam Courts before.
    No.
    I keep reading his name as Tam McCourt which only adds to my confusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fergus52 View Post
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    It's basically Mathie's role for us, no?

    which has worked very well since he was brought in.
    I hadn't thought of GM as that to be honest, I thought of him more as recruitment. Sort of identifying targets etc.

    I had always though a Director of Football role would be higher than manager / coach.

    Maybe just my interpretation of the role.

    Agree that GM is doing well.

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    No.
    I keep reading his name as Tam McCourt which only adds to my confusion.
    On that subject what eventually happened with Tam McCourt.
    Another guy seems to have his role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoopyboy View Post
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    I hadn't thought of GM as that to be honest, I thought of him more as recruitment. Sort of identifying targets etc.

    I had always though a Director of Football role would be higher than manager / coach.

    Maybe just my interpretation of the role.

    Agree that GM is doing well.
    IIRC GM was Head of Recruitment when George Craig was Director of Football, but when George left GM became Sporting Director.
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    The appointment of Tam Courts as Dundee United manager is an interesting one.

    Whether he succeeds or not is of no real interest to me,but it makes a refreshing change for a club to give a younger coach a chance rather than going with the usual tired,tried and tested ones (I won’t bother listing who I’m referring to,you all know who they are).
    They will save a fortune on Mellons wage and there is no reason it can't work.
    Obviously if at any time they flirt with the relegation zone the American owners will weeche the boy out very quickly and bring in Leveine or similar old bloke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoopyboy View Post
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    I hadn't thought of GM as that to be honest, I thought of him more as recruitment. Sort of identifying targets etc.

    I had always though a Director of Football role would be higher than manager / coach.

    Maybe just my interpretation of the role.

    Agree that GM is doing well.
    Does JR report into GM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Whizz View Post
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    Does JR report into GM?
    I wouldn't have thought so Billy but don't know if I'm being honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    On that subject what eventually happened with Tam McCourt.
    Another guy seems to have his role.
    Bumped and replaced by a former St Mirren kitman, I believe.

    Seems a bit of shame, if true, but as we keep getting told, it's normal for a manager to look to people he's trusted and worked with before for key roles in the backroom staff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfurryhibby View Post
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    Bumped and replaced by a former St Mirren kitman, I believe.

    Seems a bit of shame, if true, but as we keep getting told, it's normal for a manager to look to people he's trusted and worked with before for key roles in the backroom staff.
    If I understand correctly, Tam is past retirement age. I don't know, but maybe that's all there is to it.
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    Bumped and replaced by a former St Mirren kitman, I believe.

    Seems a bit of shame, if true, but as we keep getting told, it's normal for a manager to look to people he's trusted and worked with before for key roles in the backroom staff.
    I get the manager replacing football staff for his own guys but not the kit man. No sporting advantage to be had there.
    Tam was part of the furniture. The manager, players and football staff changed over the years but Tam stayed as a constant and I liked that.
    He was basically one of us living the dream doing his thing alongside the football folk.
    It's mad but I miss seeing the guy at the side of the pitch just being part of things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highwayman View Post
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    The appointment of Tam Courts as Dundee United manager is an interesting one.

    Whether he succeeds or not is of no real interest to me,but it makes a refreshing change for a club to give a younger coach a chance rather than going with the usual tired,tried and tested ones (I won’t bother listing who I’m referring to,you all know who they are).
    Could be a bit like the Mowbray/Stubbs appointments. I remember when Mowbray was appointed and most folk were like WTF/Who.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    I get the manager replacing football staff for his own guys but not the kit man. No sporting advantage to be had there.
    Tam was part of the furniture. The manager, players and football staff changed over the years but Tam stayed as a constant and I liked that.
    He was basically one of us living the dream doing his thing alongside the football folk.
    It's mad but I miss seeing the guy at the side of the pitch just being part of things.
    I agree, but we don't know if that's what happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    I get the manager replacing football staff for his own guys but not the kit man. No sporting advantage to be had there.
    Tam was part of the furniture. The manager, players and football staff changed over the years but Tam stayed as a constant and I liked that.
    He was basically one of us living the dream doing his thing alongside the football folk.
    It's mad but I miss seeing the guy at the side of the pitch just being part of things.
    Every club needs people with a connection to it and Tam was definitely, as you say, living the dream. He was at Hibs in one capacity or another for 30 years and always came across a nice guy. There were posts about Tam and his wife's role at the club back when people were being furloughed. Retired, voluntarily or otherwise, he is a good Hibs man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    I get the manager replacing football staff for his own guys but not the kit man. No sporting advantage to be had there.
    Tam was part of the furniture. The manager, players and football staff changed over the years but Tam stayed as a constant and I liked that.
    He was basically one of us living the dream doing his thing alongside the football folk.
    It's mad but I miss seeing the guy at the side of the pitch just being part of things.
    Was Tam and his wife I’ve, part of the 74 roles that were made redundant

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    Was Tam and his wife I’ve, part of the 74 roles that were made redundant
    Probably, i would imagine Hibs then rolled the 2 jobs into 1, wrote a new job spec and brought the new guy in months later.
    I am wary of opening this discussion up again given Tam is an ordinary guy so shouldn't have his business raked up in public.
    Needless to say I hope the club looked after him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    On that subject what eventually happened with Tam McCourt.
    Another guy seems to have his role.
    Paid off, him and his missus both on overly good wages, done well from Hibs over the year.

    My mate is good friends with him and I know he wasn't happy in the way he was treated but as I say they both done well out of the club over the years.
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    I wouldn't have thought so Billy but don't know if I'm being honest.
    Yes he does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    Paid off, him and his missus both on overly good wages, done well from Hibs over the year.

    My mate is good friends with him and I know he wasn't happy in the way he was treated but as I say they both done well out of the club over the years.
    Overly good wages? What's that based on? Tam went above and beyond the call of duty on countless occasions over the years and both he and Joyce had a great relationship with the playing staff.
    The way it all ended was not befitting the years of service he gave the club.

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    Tam had a great job living the dream for many years. Unfortunately those things tend to come to an end at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
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    Overly good wages? What's that based on? Tam went above and beyond the call of duty on countless occasions over the years and both he and Joyce had a great relationship with the playing staff.
    The way it all ended was not befitting the years of service he gave the club.
    I know their relationship with the club and staff, my mate is very close to both of them and their pay was, shall we say very very good for the job they both did. Nothing wrong with that if the club wants to give wages that good, good luck to them tbh but obviously the club decided to lose both and employ someone on a lower wage, unfortunately that happens.

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