Should fans be allowed at the final ? A poll…….

***Paul1642*** · 10-05-2021 01:55 PM

Agree. Govt need to step up here and let some fans in. Would be a mix needed boost to every club in Scotland by means of increased season ticket sales due to fan confidence of getting back in the ground IMO.

***Daniel 1875*** · 10-05-2021 02:05 PM

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Agree. Govt need to step up here and let some fans in. Would be a mix needed boost to every club in Scotland by means of increased season ticket sales due to fan confidence of getting back in the ground IMO.

It’s up to the SFA to pull together a proposal to put to the government. Sounds like they’ve got as far as finding out Ibrox, Celtic Park, Tynecastle and Murrayfield are unavailable and then stopped trying.

It’ll cost the SFA too much to host it elsewhere with only 2,000 - 4,000 fans paying for a ticket and that’s where it falls down. SFA need to be prepared to explore all avenues to get fans at the game and if it costs them to do so then so be it.

They’re keen enough to use Scottish football fans to sell the game as a result of our unique loyalty/passion so time to repay that by actually doing something when those same fans need them to.

**WeeRussell** · 10-05-2021 02:08 PM

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It's Sturgeons fault, If she said yes it would happen tomorrow.

Can you imagine the stick the FM would get if she started trying to do the SFA's job for them and focussed on getting a few fans to a game in a couple of weeks with everything going on just now?

**JOD** · 10-05-2021 02:19 PM

Dundee dens park/Tannadice for me.
No problem.

***Stairway 2 7*** · 10-05-2021 02:20 PM

Hampden with fans, the handing over to the euros is just pish and Wembley having fans a week after shows this

***nonshinyfinish*** · 10-05-2021 02:26 PM

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Dundee dens park/Tannadice for me.
No problem.

This is genius: push the two of them together, double the capacity and get twice as many fans in.

***danhibees1875*** · 10-05-2021 02:42 PM

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Dundee dens park/Tannadice for me.
No problem.

For the sake of 500 fans?

I'd rather just go with an empty Hampden.

**~~Allez Hibs~~** · 10-05-2021 02:51 PM

Murrayfield.

**Since90+2** · 10-05-2021 02:51 PM

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Murrayfield.

Don't think it's available. Pretty sure they have Rainbow Cup matches scheduled already for Edinburgh Rugby.

***Moulin Yarns*** · 10-05-2021 02:58 PM

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Don't think it's available. Pretty sure they have Rainbow Cup matches scheduled already for Edinburgh Rugby.

Only one I can see is on the 15th.

**JeMeSouviens** · 10-05-2021 02:59 PM

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For the sake of 500 fans?

I'd rather just go with an empty Hampden.

Pretty sure if the SFA got their finger out they could push for a few thousand?

**Since90+2** · 10-05-2021 03:07 PM

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Only one I can see is on the 15th.

I think, although could be wrong on this, that the 22nd is earmarked for a potential fixture should Edinburgh quality.

***danhibees1875*** · 10-05-2021 03:07 PM

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Pretty sure if the SFA got their finger out they could push for a few thousand?

Would start to make it more worthwhile anyway. But they'd need get going quickly to come up with a plan and to have a consensus on that with SG and the council (whichever one the game ends up in).

There'd still be a part of me that'd prefer it was just in Hampden though, even an empty one. Unless they managed to find a way to accommodate c.20k (10k each) somewhere - Ibrox, CP, Murrayfield, even St James park.

**hibbysam** · 10-05-2021 03:14 PM

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I think, although could be wrong on this, that the 22nd is earmarked for a potential fixture should Edinburgh quality.

They have a game on 15th and then the next round isn’t until 29th. Not sure how the fixtures are released for this though.

***Jamesie*** · 10-05-2021 03:25 PM

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They have a game on 15th and then the next round isn’t until 29th. Not sure how the fixtures are released for this though.

Even if Edinburgh had a game on the 22nd, there’s a newly completed gazebo sitting right next to Murrayfield that has been built for their use. Whilst they’ve committed to not playing there until fans are back, I’m sure if the opportunity was there for the SRU to gain goodwill and £££ then pragmatism could take precedence. A week is more than enough time to reconfigure the stadium for football instead of rugby: this is regularly done in the Stadio Olimpico in Rome in circa 15 hours in some instances.

I’d say Hibs and St Johnstone combined won’t have north of 15k of season ticket holders. Quite easy to socially distance 15k in a 67k capacity stadium I would imagine.

If there was real political and club impetus to get fans into this match, and for it to be held in a venue where that would be possible, I think it could possibly happen. The fact there is no obvious sign of that at the moment is extremely disappointing. In a season like no other and when the fans have stepped up to back the club during a time of great fiscal uncertainty, I would have hoped we might see the club exerting pressure to get supporters through the doors.

**Pretty Boy** · 10-05-2021 03:28 PM

You can practically write the script on this.

There will be a few targeted leaks to friendly journos in the next few days about 'ongoing discussions' and 'meetings with invested parties'. They will drag that out just long enough to make it seem plausible then release a statement referencing 'all possible avenues' being explored, 'insurmountable obstacles' and 'problematic timescales'.

Fans of Hibs and St Johnstone will be annoyed but because football is so tribal most fans of other clubs won't care and it will be quickly forgotten about. Why there wasn't a plan A, B and C to put to the government weeks ago should be the question everyone is asking. I don't even think it's anything to do with the OF being non participants in the latter stages, the plans should already have been in place. It's dereliction of duty.

***Vault Boy*** · 10-05-2021 03:30 PM

CL Final moving to England talks have broken down apparently.

***Moulin Yarns*** · 10-05-2021 03:34 PM

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I think, although could be wrong on this, that the 22nd is earmarked for a potential fixture should Edinburgh quality.

right, I saw lots TBC in the fixtures. But surely they would play at the new mini murrayfield, and if the Cup final was agreed that would take preference for time as it is already in the schedule as opposed to a possible game that isn't even assured.

***Hibs Class*** · 10-05-2021 03:41 PM

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CL Final moving to England talks have broken down apparently.

looks like it, but the reasons for the apparent breakdown don't have any relevance to the question of moving the SC final.

***Billy Whizz*** · 10-05-2021 03:42 PM

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CL Final moving to England talks have broken down apparently.

Surely they aren’t going to make the teams travel to Turkey?

***Hibs Class*** · 10-05-2021 03:44 PM

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Surely they aren’t going to make the teams travel to Turkey?

Potentially moving it to Portugal

***Billy Whizz*** · 10-05-2021 04:00 PM

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Potentially moving it to Portugal

For the sake of the costs to the fans, should be in the U.K.
Looks like UEFA wanting top dollar

**JeMeSouviens** · 10-05-2021 04:02 PM

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Surely they aren’t going to make the teams travel to Turkey?

Should suit us. David Wotherspoon will be homesick for one, and Liam Craig will need to wear so much sunblock he'll be practically immobilised!

**marinello59** · 10-05-2021 04:02 PM

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You can practically write the script on this.

There will be a few targeted leaks to friendly journos in the next few days about 'ongoing discussions' and 'meetings with invested parties'. They will drag that out just long enough to make it seem plausible then release a statement referencing 'all possible avenues' being explored, 'insurmountable obstacles' and 'problematic timescales'.

Fans of Hibs and St Johnstone will be annoyed but because football is so tribal most fans of other clubs won't care and it will be quickly forgotten about. Why there wasn't a plan A, B and C to put to the government weeks ago should be the question everyone is asking. I don't even think it's anything to do with the OF being non participants in the latter stages, the plans should already have been in place. It's dereliction of duty.

That pretty much sums it up. Motions will be gone through over the next few days but nothing will change.

***Danderhall Hibs*** · 10-05-2021 04:08 PM

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That pretty much sums it up. Motions will be gone through over the next few days but nothing will change.

fully expecting a “we tried but there’s just not the time to do this”

Despite the fact that Tom English has been asking for a few weeks now on Monday night sportsound.

***Moulin Yarns*** · 10-05-2021 04:10 PM

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fully expecting a “we tried but there’s just not the time to do this”

Despite the fact that Tom English has been asking for a few weeks now on Monday night sportsound.

John Beattie on Radiio Scotland saying there are ongoing talks about the Chamions League final, AND the Scottish Cup Final.

**stuart-farquhar** · 10-05-2021 04:12 PM

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Think there is some kind of work to be done at Hampden but not sure what.

Build a decent stadium I'd imagine.

**Blaster** · 10-05-2021 05:07 PM

Aberdeen has offered to host this season's Scottish Cup final at Pittodrie so Hibernian and St Johnstone fans can attend the match.

The Scottish FA confirmed last month that no supporters will be inside the national stadium for the tie on 22 May.

From next Monday 500 spectators can attend outdoor events in Scotland with organisers able to ask for more.

And 12,000 fans will be in Hampden on 14 June for Scotland's Euro 2020 opener against the Czech Republic.

"Aberdeen FC would be happy to consider Pittodrie being the Scottish Cup final venue if it helped fans get into the stadium and it was something that both teams and the Scottish FA wanted us to do," Aberdeen chairman Dave Cormack told BBC Scotland's The Nine.

***Jones28*** · 10-05-2021 05:28 PM

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Aberdeen has offered to host this season's Scottish Cup final at Pittodrie so Hibernian and St Johnstone fans can attend the match.

The Scottish FA confirmed last month that no supporters will be inside the national stadium for the tie on 22 May.

From next Monday 500 spectators can attend outdoor events in Scotland with organisers able to ask for more.

And 12,000 fans will be in Hampden on 14 June for Scotland's Euro 2020 opener against the Czech Republic.

"Aberdeen FC would be happy to consider Pittodrie being the Scottish Cup final venue if it helped fans get into the stadium and it was something that both teams and the Scottish FA wanted us to do," Aberdeen chairman Dave Cormack told BBC Scotland's The Nine.

He has to have his ****ing shneb in everything eh?

If it’s going to have fans it’s going to be Murrayfield, Ibrox or Celtic park.