Ryan porteous

[DIXIHIBS]

Firstly well done hibs yesterday. Solid performance and least nervous last 20 minutes at hampden for a while. Young ryan though appears to be increasingly erratic. His mistakes over the last few weeks have been well highlighted and yesterday he seemed to lose his man on several occasions but more concerning was his temperament. After his booking to then kick the ball away which could easily have been a sending off could have completely changed the game. He is a great young player but he doesnt seem to learn, or maybe im being a bit unfair.

[hibee316]

Fine line between having a competitive edge over other players and taking it too far.
I think he definitely treads this line.
And to be fair, even the top players make mistakes, but I think overall he has become more consistent.

[Borderhibbie76]

He was giving me the fear yesterday if I'm being honest was a bit all over the place couple of times he we caught in no man's land and his distribution wasn't great neither. Felt like I breathed easier when Daz came on. Luv Porto but he's gone a bit off form again

[lucky]

I said in another thread Porto played ok yesterday but Daz is more solid in defending but Porto is better with the ball at his feet. As for his temperament, not many were complaining when he was winding Rangers players up. He’s a young player who is getting better and will improve even more.

[Onion]

There's an outstanding footballer in there, but he needs to improve his own discipline, firm coaching and to learn quickly if he's to go further in the game.

[GIBBY NEWTON]

Young laddie as we all know plays for the jersey & gives his all. Needs to do the easy things get back to basics. Needs mentoring if not already in place ? I feel defensively that JRs tactics as a 3 or 4 have us playing as individuals( unlike Live/St J defences of late)Going forward good but defensively lacking as a unit with at times poor support from mfield. Hopefully Ryan & the rest of our young players are here for the forseeable future playing in Europe as Scottish Cup winners 2021.

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Firstly well done hibs yesterday. Solid performance and least nervous last 20 minutes at hampden for a while. Young ryan though appears to be increasingly erratic. His mistakes over the last few weeks have been well highlighted and yesterday he seemed to lose his man on several occasions but more concerning was his temperament. After his booking to then kick the ball away which could easily have been a sending off could have completely changed the game. He is a great young player but he doesnt seem to learn, or maybe im being a bit unfair.

[calumhibee1]

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He was giving me the fear yesterday if I'm being honest was a bit all over the place couple of times he we caught in no man's land and his distribution wasn't great neither. Felt like I breathed easier when Daz came on. Luv Porto but he's gone a bit off form again

Yup, he’s definitely not playing his best stuff just now.

Daz should be in for the remainder of the league games imo. If he performs then he’s in for the final.

[WhileTheChief..]

There’s players 10 years older than him that still make daft mistakes.

No problem with the odd rush of blood to the head, we need characters in the team and he is one.

He’s doing tremendously well for his age and the position he plays in and will get better over time.

[mcohibs]

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I said in another thread Porto played ok yesterday but Daz is more solid in defending but Porto is better with the ball at his feet. As for his temperament, not many were complaining when he was winding Rangers players up. He’s a young player who is getting better and will improve even more.

To be fair, quite a few of us were concerned with his temperament a year and a half ago i.e.the reckless and uneccesary sending off against Rangers.

Seems to be the narrative on here that Porteous is improving all the time and becoming more level headed. Tbh I don't really see it. The mistake last week could have happened to anyone really but he gets caught flat footed too often, steps off his man. Another ref would (and should) have given him a second yellow for booting the ball away yesterday.

[Crunchie]

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There’s players 10 years older than him that still make daft mistakes.

No problem with the odd rush of blood to the head, we need characters in the team and he is one.

He’s doing tremendously well for his age and the position he plays in and will get better over time.

At least he tries to play the ball out or show a bit of composure, the same with Doig. The more experienced Hanlon was treating the ball like a hot potato that last 20 minutes when he's the one who should be showing the composure, he runs around pointing but never seems to open his mouth, he should be doing way more imo to help the youngsters, something I'm positive Daz would do.

[easty]

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At least he tries to play the ball out or show a bit of composure, the same with Doig. The more experienced Hanlon was treating the ball like a hot potato that last 20 minutes when he's the one who should be showing the composure, he runs around pointing but never seems to open his mouth, he should be doing way more imo to help the youngsters, something I'm positive Daz would do.

Brilliant.

Hibs win a Scottish cup semi final. Clean sheet. Let’s have a go at Hanlon.

[Eyrie]

A referee is not going to give a second yellow for kicking the ball away with so long left to play.

[Crunchie]

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Brilliant.

Hibs win a Scottish cup semi final. Clean sheet. Let’s have a go at Hanlon.

On a thread that's having a go at possibly our best CH in a generation, only making comparisons my friend, not having a go.

[Northernhibee]

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Brilliant.

Hibs win a Scottish cup semi final. Clean sheet. Let’s have a go at Hanlon.

Hanlon was excellent yesterday.

[MWHIBBIES]

His distribution was terrible early on. Seriously awful and was the only way United were getting chances.

I'd strongly consider Darren for the final tbh. But I think Ryan will start.

[Peevemor]

I got the impression that Ryan was too up for it yesterday. He was far better last week despite the howler.

[J-C]

Hibs players will always make wee errors and that's why they play at Hibs and not at a much higher level, Ryan showed fantastic promise and has made big strides since he became a regular squad player but he still has that rush of blood that hampers him. He's no a wee laddie any more and if he has aspirations of going further in the game he has to start knuckling down to cut out these errors, I think big Daz showed Ryan exactly what he needs to do by improving his positional sense and mental strength during a game, 2 parts of his game which is weak.

[Irish_Steve]

I love Porto too but I think the wee mistakes are beginning to creep in too much.

He reminds me a bit of James McPake. we all thought McPake was great because he would make fantastic last ditch tackles, however, that was because he was out of position in the first place.

As someone else said, maybe Porto was too up for it yesterday but we did look better when Daz came on - interesting conundrum for JR to sort

[Since452]

Now is the time to sell him. He's the right age and i don't see him improving much now. His stock right now is the highest it's going to be with us.

[Bristolhibby]

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Brilliant.

Hibs win a Scottish cup semi final. Clean sheet. Let’s have a go at Hanlon.

TBF he and as others have said, he’s the player where I suck in my breath.

Not saying he’s a bad player, far from it, but there’s no room for error when you are a centre half.

I think Mike’s Stewart said it, Sparky was playing on the inside shoulder every time and running channels. He needed to be aware of that.

J

[hibbydog]

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At least he tries to play the ball out or show a bit of composure, the same with Doig. The more experienced Hanlon was treating the ball like a hot potato that last 20 minutes when he's the one who should be showing the composure, he runs around pointing but never seems to open his mouth, he should be doing way more imo to help the youngsters, something I'm positive Daz would do.

Fair enough.

The point about treating the ball like a hot potato isn’t just Hanlon though. I’m often screaming at the telly for Hibs to find a pass and keep a hold of the damn ball when we’re winning with not long to go. We’ve a terrible habit of ‘anywhere will do’ which just invites more pressure.

[CMurdoch]

He was rightly criticised all week in the media.
All that has an affect on the person being criticised but after yesterday it will be out of his system and replaced with thoughts of his injury.
I missed the kicking the ball away incident and trust he won't do it again.
As for those saying we should sell him now because his reputation is as high as it will get. That makes no sense. It is probably the opposite.
He has great footballing ability and is lacking a little in his decision making. I am confident he will continue to improve that aspect of the game.
He no longer clobbers folk needlessly and his decision making will similarly improve. Ross appears to be the right man to take him to the next stage.

[Stevie Reid]

Ryan is a concern for me right now. Daz was superb yesterday when he came on.

[Pretty Boy]

If we are up against St Johnstone I would be tempted to go with Daz.

They are very physical, play a lot of balls into the box and are dangerous at set pieces. That kind of defending is bread and butter for Daz.

You also have to wonder if his previous errors v St Johnstone will play on RPs mind. He seemed a bit over pumped up yesterday and was doing a few of the silly things he has largely cut out of his game. His booking, as one example, was because of his own indecisiveness then jumping in and selling himself.

A tough decision for the manager.

[J-C]

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Ryan is a concern for me right now. Daz was superb yesterday when he came on.

Daz is big, strong and does the basics right and positionally very good.

[Stevie Reid]

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Daz is big, strong and does the basics right and positionally very good.

Absolutely. We can’t afford any mistakes in the cup final, and Daz is much less likely to make any.

Tbf I seem to remember DM having an absolute mare against St. J when he came on for Hanlon in the 2-2 game at ER earlier this season - but I can’t think of many others in his five years here.

I have a huge amount of trust in Daz, more so than I do Ryan at this moment in time - and I love RP.

[RyeSloan]

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Absolutely. We can’t afford any mistakes in the cup final, and Daz is much less likely to make any.

Tbf I seem to remember DM having an absolute mare against St. J when he came on for Hanlon in the 2-2 game at ER earlier this season - but I can’t think of many others in his five years here.

I have a huge amount of trust in Daz, more so than I do Ryan at this moment in time - and I love RP.

Was it not Daz that gave the ball away against Aberdeen 20 seconds into the semi final?

All players make mistakes.

As for Porto reminding someone of James McPake...

[Stevie Reid]

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Was it not Daz that gave the ball away against Aberdeen 20 seconds into the semi final?

All players make mistakes.

As for Porto reminding someone of James McPake...

Yes, there were a few in the lead up to that goal, but Daz was the one that led directly to the goal.

All players do make mistakes. I very much rate Ryan but he makes more than Daz. Last weekend was one of the worst I’ve seen from a Hibs player, and I thought he was shaky yesterday. DM was excellent when he came on.

Both are hard as nails and a decent goal threat. Ryan is a better footballer than Daz, but DM is no nonsense and has a much better temperament. I trust him more than Porto at this moment in time, and think his low risk approach is more suited to a final against Saints.

I think as things stand that JR will play Ryan though.

[mjhibby]

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If we are up against St Johnstone I would be tempted to go with Daz.

They are very physical, play a lot of balls into the box and are dangerous at set pieces. That kind of defending is bread and butter for Daz.

You also have to wonder if his previous errors v St Johnstone will play on RPs mind. He seemed a bit over pumped up yesterday and was doing a few of the silly things he has largely cut out of his game. His booking, as one example, was because of his own indecisiveness then jumping in and selling himself.

A tough decision for the manager.

Big call for jr to make. I’d be radical and play both with mcginn rwb.

[nonshinyfinish]

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Big call for jr to make. I’d be radical and play both with mcginn rwb.

Unless there's a permutation I haven't figured out, McGinn at RWB would mean leaving out one of Nisbet, Doidge and Boyle – there's plenty to discuss in midfield and defence, but I think one thing that's certain is that those three all start if fit.