Hibs fans at the Scottish Cup Final

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[Peevemor]

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A colleague has just sent me a video of maybe 120 Rangers fans on a flight from Belfast to Glasgow tonight having a sing song as they are taking off.

Can someone please explain to me why we are not allowed 300 fans at Hampden?

One has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

[Callum_62]

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How did a farcical cock up by the sfa and scottish government turn into a bash the english?

Surley it was a response to the question what did the scot gov get right during the pandemic?

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[hibbysam]

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Surley it was a response to the question what did the scot gov get right during the pandemic?

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Is that getting something right? Just simply being better than someone who got it more wrong? It’s hardly a decent table to be sitting second of.

[northstandhibby]

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Because we’re Scottish it’s what we dae. No trying to brag but we’re really good at it too ( at least in our world we are ).

GGTTH

It did seem completely out of context on what is normally an apolitical football forum. This is a total balls up by both the sfa and scottish government.

[HoboHarry]

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I have friends in OK and they have been doing pretty much the same as before the pandemic, they do wear masks in shops etc and spacings are larger than normal in restaurants but I don't recall them sitting at home for months on end.

Vast majority of restaurants here don't even have mask required signs up any more and a growing number aren't making their staff wear them.

[Callum_62]

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Is that getting something right? Just simply being better than someone who got it more wrong? It’s hardly a decent table to be sitting second of.

It's about as close a comparison as we can get though, isn't it?

Id certainly rather be 40% up than 40% down

Ofcourse you could check the figures against our European neighbours for a Larger comparison

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[Peevemor]

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Is that getting something right? Just simply being better than someone who got it more wrong? It’s hardly a decent table to be sitting second of.

But you accept Scotland did better? Go on....

[southern hibby]

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It did seem completely out of context on what is normally an apolitical football forum. This is a total balls up by both the sfa and scottish government.

I agree it’s a balls up from start to finish.

GGTTH

[hibbysam]

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But you accept Scotland did better? Go on....

There’s a difference between being second of four in a pitiful table of how many deaths were overseen, and the government getting things right. I’ve no doubt they got some things right, but this is probably the worst way to make that point.

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People using the US as an example of how to do things when there’s 600,000 dead

[Callum_62]

I'm not sure why they didn't just cancel it earlier

Its basically no skin off my nose as I fully expected 0 fans to begin with

In the end its a whole lot of angst about numbers allowed and ballots and who's a more uber fan and deserving

End of the day, let's just win the bloody thing

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[gaz1875]

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Didn’t say you did. Merely pointing out that Ni is best, followed by Scotland, Wales and England worst. You asked what Scotgov got right. It has kept people here safer, but not as safe as NI.

source - https://www.travellingtabby.com/uk-coronavirus-tracker/

Thanks for the link, I usually look at the Worldometer website. I noticed Southern Ireland has even less than NI. England's major cities took a battering early doors similar to other major worlds cities. We were fortunate not to have as many overcrowded areas otherwise who knows where our figures would have ended up.

[HoboHarry]

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People using the US as an example of how to do things when there’s 600,000 dead

Yeah mate the MSM said so so it must be true right enough.

[greenginger]

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In terms of deaths, which are the ultimate stat you can’t fudge.

NI - 113
Scot - 140
Wal - 176
Eng - 199

Deaths per 100k population.

England’s death rate is 40% higher than ours and mostly that’s due to tighter restrictions after an equally bad start in the first wave.

Cant fudge death figures ? Take a look at the Scottish figure with covid given as a cause on the death certificate.

That shows Scottish death rate of 185 per 100k

[malcolm]

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Because many haven’t been vaccinated yet, so of course cases will still be there. Those cases don’t necessarily translate into hospitalisation and deaths, in fact are very unlikely to. The vaccine reduces transmission but doesn’t kill it completely, therefore cases should never be the measure anymore. In fact, I’d go as far as to say young, healthy people should no longer be wasting their time by getting themselves tested.

Being polite that is pretty daft . The issue with the newest Indian variant is perhaps simply its transmissibility with it being estimated to be maybe 50% more transmissible due to a mutation on the spike protein. It may not have a second mutation that makes it less likely to evade the vaccine generated antibodies and it may not be more likely to cause death and serious illness. All good but a blasé we are all right jack attitude allows for greater transmission making the emergence of new variants of greater concern more likely.

It may well be something that we have to live with and enjoy catch up alterations to vaccine. But for society to be safe as a starting point we need to have driven levels down to a low level and have vaccinated a greater number of the population. Testing asymptomatic younger adults is not a waste of time if it identifies infectious folk and limits the spread further. I hope this variant is swapping greater transmission for less illness and death and that, if so, it out competes any other variants. Unsubstantiated hope is not with relying on but my wishful thinking is that things will be very different come August.

The in out in out turn it all about performance of the govt to attendances and the inept advance negotiations by the the SFA on the planned use of its own stadium have been bizarre and unwelcome but in the end for the final a not unexpected outcome has been reached.

[hibbysam]

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People using the US as an example of how to do things when there’s 600,000 dead

Yet unless I’m mistaken, less per million than the UK?

[660]

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Yeah mate the MSM said so so it must be true right enough.

Wait what? Are you saying 600,000 people didn’t die in the US. It’s just some media conspiracy?!

[northstandhibby]

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I agree it’s a balls up from start to finish.

GGTTH

Totally. Few would disagree. Hopefully put this farce behind us in the days ahead and come a week saturday we'll be celebrating lifting the Cup.

[gaz1875]

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People using the US as an example of how to do things when there’s 600,000 dead

The death toll is higher. but not higher per head of population as the UK.

[Callum_62]

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Is that getting something right? Just simply being better than someone who got it more wrong? It’s hardly a decent table to be sitting second of.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...pe-by-country/

Iceland8.12
Norway14.4
Finland16.75
Cyprus38.36
Denmark43.01
Malta84.49
Estonia90.88
Netherlands100.21
Ireland100.34
Germany102.18
Greece102.84
Austria114.25
Latvia115.21
Luxembourg130.64
Sweden138.54
Lithuania144.76
Romania149.55
Liechtenstein151.13
France158.81
Portugal165.36
Spain168.09
Croatia184.07
Poland184.43
United Kingdom191.46
Italy203.5
Belgium214.55
Slovakia221.1
Slovenia221.87
Bulgaria241.84
Czechia278.98
Hungary293.6

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[hibbysam]

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https://www.statista.com/statistics/...pe-by-country/

Iceland8.12
Norway14.4
Finland16.75
Cyprus38.36
Denmark43.01
Malta84.49
Estonia90.88
Netherlands100.21
Ireland100.34
Germany102.18
Greece102.84
Austria114.25
Latvia115.21
Luxembourg130.64
Sweden138.54
Lithuania144.76
Romania149.55
Liechtenstein151.13
France158.81
Portugal165.36
Spain168.09
Croatia184.07
Poland184.43
United Kingdom191.46
Italy203.5
Belgium214.55
Slovakia221.1
Slovenia221.87
Bulgaria241.84
Czechia278.98
Hungary293.6

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So the UK are one of the worst in Europe? As expected, it’s been a ****show all round.

[Callum_62]

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So the UK are one of the worst in Europe? As expected, it’s been a ****show all round.

We are as a group of nations. Altho taking the deaths per 100k of each country they would be spread out through that 'league table'


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[Caversham Green]

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Can you imagine the tears and snotters if we'd had time for a ballet.

Presumably the final score would be tutu.

[gaz1875]

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Vast majority of restaurants here don't even have mask required signs up any more and a growing number aren't making their staff wear them.

To be fair the restaurants in the States are massive compared to here. Still we would end up with a 4m spacing rule if they were just to piss everyone off, unless of course you don't want a bevy with your food it would be reduced to 3m!!

[Callum_62]

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Presumably the final score would be tutu.

https://thespie.com/digital/dive-sco...t-website/3031

Martin Boyle inspired

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[matty_f]

Think this thread has run its course now. Politics discussions are in the Holy Ground where there’s already a very long coronavirus thread.