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    Owners should be given 2 options. Leave asap or club gets hammered.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Funny thing is, if they had just kept on threatening to leave, uefa would have given them their super league over the next few years anyway.
    That threat is gone now. I’m blown away by how much of a balls up they have made of this.


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    so do you reckon the Atlantic league pish is dead in the water too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Owners should be given 2 options. Leave asap or club gets hammered.


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    Don't worry folks, the Scottish Super League featuring Scotland's big 6 Hibs, Celtic, Rangers, Aberdeen, Dundee United and Brora is still going ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pagan Hibernia View Post
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    so do you reckon the Atlantic league pish is dead in the water too?
    No. I think the people involved will have learnt a thing or two though. Number 1 is to get your FA and Uefa to ok it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Funny thing is, if they had just kept on threatening to leave, uefa would have given them their super league over the next few years anyway.
    That threat is gone now. I’m blown away by how much of a balls up they have made of this.


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    Yes, and that offers an opportunity to reform the game that cannot be wasted. The owners of these clubs are now vulnerable; the governing bodies, the fans and even government must turn the screw on them by forcing change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Funny thing is, if they had just kept on threatening to leave, uefa would have given them their super league over the next few years anyway.
    That threat is gone now. I’m blown away by how much of a balls up they have made of this.


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    UEFA were already giving them a halfway house as it was. Astonishing how quickly this is dissipating, I expected more names to be added once the first 12 went public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    No. I think the people involved will have learnt a thing or two though. Number 1 is to get your FA and Uefa to ok it.


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    and as incompetent as Scottish football authorities are, when and why would they ever agree to that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Owners should be given 2 options. Leave asap or club gets hammered.
    Hammer the clubs regardless, huge fines or put to the bottom of the pyramid.

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    Hammer the clubs regardless, huge fines or put to the bottom of the pyramid.
    Well, it seems clear the majority of players and employees were against this. Should punish the owners hard, not the workers and players who've done nothing.

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    Owners should be given 2 options. Leave asap or club gets hammered.
    Sadly, they've done nothing illegal so expect little the authorities can do to the clubs - at least nothing that could not be challenged in court. Their biggest problem is the fallout from fans to politicians. These owners will be seen as hostile and mistrusted from now on.

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    Sadly, they've done nothing illegal so expect little the authorities can do to the clubs - at least nothing that could not be challenged in court. Their biggest problem is the fallout from fans to politicians. These owners will be seen as hostile and mistrusted from now on.
    Exactly, they proposed and tried to implement a new business model and it fell flat. They are looking collectively pretty silly right now so UEFA/FIFA have already won the war....

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    Juventus president has also resigned.
    Chairmen etc of all clubs involved should be hounded out with their tails between their legs and subjected to booing and barracking from all football fans everywhere forever more.

    As for the owners - seems to me they are getting off far too lightly - but how the hell do you hammer these spoilt rotten billionaire types???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onion View Post
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    Sadly, they've done nothing illegal so expect little the authorities can do to the clubs - at least nothing that could not be challenged in court. Their biggest problem is the fallout from fans to politicians. These owners will be seen as hostile and mistrusted from now on.
    Attempting to establish a breakaway league without permission from the FA and UEFA is clearly a breach of the terms of membership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    Exactly, they proposed and tried to implement a new business model and it fell flat. They are looking collectively pretty silly right now so UEFA/FIFA have already won the war....
    yeah, UEFA will be the real winners here, not the fans. They’ve humiliated the breakaway clubs, consolidated their own power and wealth, probably buried the super league for a long time. They’ll be feeling pretty smug tonight.

    the worst part of this is that they’ll have somehow managed to convince the more gullible fans that they’re the good guys

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    Watch UEFA now go ahead with their own "official" euro league, they are as much a cartel as these clubs

    Yes although my hope is that this has now awakened a clamour from fans to reform football for the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    Yes, and that offers an opportunity to reform the game that cannot be wasted. The owners of these clubs are now vulnerable; the governing bodies, the fans and even government must turn the screw on them by forcing change.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    Yes, and that offers an opportunity to reform the game that cannot be wasted. The owners of these clubs are now vulnerable; the governing bodies, the fans and even government must turn the screw on them by forcing change.
    The governing bodies have driven the race to money grabbing on an absurd scale - the 12 breakaway clubs were simply following the same pattern. UEFA and FIFA have just had their hand strengthened and the race for even more money will continue unabated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pagan Hibernia View Post
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    and as incompetent as Scottish football authorities are, when and why would they ever agree to that?
    If it can be shown to benefit the game in Scotland where more of our top players can play in Scotland then maybe they will agree to it? I wouldn’t rule it out that it still happens.


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    How is the super league with Hearts Inverness and Stranraer getting on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    The governing bodies have driven the race to money grabbing on an absurd scale - the 12 breakaway clubs were simply following the same pattern. UEFA and FIFA have just had their hand strengthened and the race for even more money will continue unabated.
    In which case the game is lost once and for all. This could be the moment when there is one final chance to reverse that trend, but it requires cooperation amongst many groups. This could be October 1917, comrades
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    I’ve been out the loop, this is absolutely superb.

    “Saving football”😂

    Are the North London clubs staying in with a hope of winning it..?

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    Strong statements from the English politicians today who weren't going to be making things at all easy.

    Opportunism of course but the English clubs began to see a juggernaught coming towards them from all conceivable sides.

    It will all fall apart now and UEFA don't need to bend over and take it any longer and should pull back on their own reconstruction such as the offensive "wildcards" into the Champions League from 2024.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    In which case the game is lost once and for all. This could be the moment when there is one final chance to reverse that trend, but it requires cooperation amongst many groups. This could be October 1917, comrades
    id rather it was July 1936

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    How is the super league with Hearts Inverness and Stranraer getting on?
    They're inviting Brora and Alloa to play in next season's tournament as they've proved themselves to be of the required standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Baldmans Comb View Post
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    Strong statements from the English politicians today who weren't going to be making things at all easy.

    Opportunism of course but the English clubs began to see a juggernaught coming towards them from all conceivable sides.

    It will all fall apart now and UEFA don't need to bend over and take it any longer and should pull back on their own reconstruction such as the offensive "wildcards" into the Champions League from 2024.
    they absolutely should do that, in particular the invitational places to clubs with high co-efficient scores. That was a deliberate concession to the ‘elite’ clubs and should be done away with immediately as punishment.

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    Looks like that's it: all finished within three days. There has to be consequences for the criminals who own these clubs.
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    Liverpool confirmed they’re out
    Less talk, more gifs. 21.05.16

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    All English clubs now out.

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    These owners should be jailed for this.
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