McGinn to West Ham

[O'Rourke3]

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I was surprised to see the negativity towards SJM on the Villa forum, but that does seem to be very recent and over the almost 300 pages on him most are complimentary rather than negative. He is being played too deep by Dean Smith though. I think a move would do him good and that in turn will do us some good too.

I'd bet there were similar threads here when we were linked and then had him. Certainly nothing 3 years in though... It's fans. Stevenson, Hanlon Marciano threads spring to mind.

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[Itsnoteasy]

So does this mean that those who started to support AV cause SJM went there might have to change their team 🤔

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From one crap strip to another.

[Dunbar Hibee]

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West Ham could play a blinder. Sell Rice for crazy money with the English premium, say £60m/£70m and sign McGinn for say £40m. Money in the bank and probably comparable quality in terms of swapping McGinn for Rice.

Yeah you're right, however considering the market down there I'd want more than 60/70m for Rice!

[Vault Boy]

I think Villa will price out anyone that wants McGinn for as long as they stay in the Premier League.

[J-C]

Having watched Man U last night I'd say McGinn is a better option at the moment than Matic or Fred, that's not to say they'd go for him but he'd thrive in a team like that.

[Hibee Mac]

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Having watched Man U last night I'd say McGinn is a better option at the moment than Matic or Fred, that's not to say they'd go for him but he'd thrive in a team like that.

You're right, to me he's easily ahead of Fred although I'm not a Utd fan so don't see him regularly. Utd wouldn't go for him though he'd cost a lot and is nearing 27

[FilipinoHibs]

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So does this mean that those who started to support AV cause SJM went there might have to change their team 🤔

A bit like basketball here in the Philippines - they follow the player not the team.

[HoboHarry]

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You're right, to me he's easily ahead of Fred although I'm not a Utd fan so don't see him regularly. Utd wouldn't go for him though he'd cost a lot and is nearing 27

They paid 47M for Fred and he was also 26 at the time.....

[LustForLeith]

Recently I was speaking to someone who knows him and he says not only is he really settled down there but Villa are minted. It would take a massive bid for them to consider selling him

[Hibs4185]

If St Mirren get their percentage as confirmed at the AGM, is there the possibility we also get percentages of future transfer fees? So 15% of every transfer fee in the future?

[AgentDaleCooper]

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If St Mirren get their percentage as confirmed at the AGM, is there the possibility we also get percentages of future transfer fees? So 15% of every transfer fee in the future?

Only if villa inserted a sell on clause when they sold him

[Lago]

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And London wages.

Yeah but then you have live there or near there.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Wouldn't that just be a sideways move? I mean, what's the point of going from Villa to West Ham? If one of the really big boys declares interest, then fair enough.

[Billy Whizz]

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Wouldn't that just be a sideways move? I mean, what's the point of going from Villa to West Ham? If one of the really big boys declares interest, then fair enough.

If he moves from Villa, he’ll want to play for a team who play regular Champions league football
He’s 27 this year, so a big move will be soon or not at all

[Hibby70]

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Wouldn't that just be a sideways move? I mean, what's the point of going from Villa to West Ham? If one of the really big boys declares interest, then fair enough.

Champions League, London, money.

[Hibernia&Alba]

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Champions League, London, money.

Aye, they might offer more money, but the higher cost of living in London would negate that. If West Ham qualify for the Champions League, it would be an incentive, yes. I don't see much to choose between the two clubs.

[660]

I will support any club that SJM goes to. Literally any club given he wouldn’t go to any of the cretinous clubs like Huns/Millwall/Hertz

[Hibernia&Alba]

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I will support any club that SJM goes to. Literally any club given he wouldn’t go to any of the cretinous clubs like Huns/Millwall/Hertz

Chelsea?

[C_hendo04]

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Having watched Man U last night I'd say McGinn is a better option at the moment than Matic or Fred, that's not to say they'd go for him but he'd thrive in a team like that.

If DVB does leave Man Utd this summer then they could do far worse than signing McGinn to replace him with McGinn being able to play in both a Bruno Fernandes and a Pogba style role. Plus if they were willing to spend £47 million on Fred, £40 million for McGinn seems reasonable.

[Iggy Pope]

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If DVB does leave Man Utd this summer then they could do far worse than signing McGinn to replace him with McGinn being able to play in both a Bruno Fernandes and a Pogba style role. Plus if they were willing to spend £47 million on Fred, £40 million for McGinn seems reasonable.

Who is DVB?

[Hibernia&Alba]

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Who is DVB?

Van Der Beek

[J-C]

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Who is DVB?

Donny Van de Beek the young Dutch lad.

[Is It On....]

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I was reading a couple of Aston Villa and West Ham fan pages posts and they say that Moyes is apparently willing to spend £40million to sign him this summer. If my calculations are correct we should receive £6million from Aston Villa and then we would have to give away £2million to St Mirren due to their sell on clause which means we would have £4million to play with in the summer.

I thought the sell on was more than 15%?

[CallumLaidlaw]

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I thought the sell on was more than 15%?

No. Hibs confirmed at AGM. 15% with St Mirren getting 30% of what we get.


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[Just_Jimmy]

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SJM should be a stick on for Man Utd! Absolute fit.

said that about three years ago on here and got roundly mocked.

he'd stroll into that midfield.

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[NadeAteMyLunch!]

I would be absolutely amazed if this happens. Definition of a sideways move. He will only leave Villa for one of the traditional top 6 imo.

[jgl07]

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Aston Villa are a far bigger English club than West Ham.Step up for him would only be Man Utd, Man City, Liverpool, Spurs, Chelsea or Arsenal.

I am sorry but Villa are very much on a level with West Ham. Villa have won very little. One League title and one FA Cup plus five League Cups in the last 100 years. OK they won one European Cup.

West Ham have three FA Cup wins, a European Cup Winners Cup.

I still don't see that a move to West Ham would constitute progress for John McGinn. Other clubs such as Everton or Leicester maybe would constitute progress but not West Ham. A sideways move for me?

[jacomo]

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I am sorry but Villa are very much on a level with West Ham. Villa have won very little. One League title and one FA Cup plus five League Cups in the last 100 years. OK they won one European Cup.

West Ham have three FA Cup wins, a European Cup Winners Cup.

I still don't see that a move to West Ham would constitute progress for John McGinn. Other clubs such as Everton or Leicester maybe would constitute progress but not West Ham. A sideways move for me?

Leicester? lol.

Amazing achievement to win the league back in 2016 and they are doing well these days, but a bigger club than Villa? Nope don’t think so.

[ScottB]

‘Bigger’ seems pretty irrelevant. A step up from Villa would be a team that’s competing for and securing European football regularly, preferably Champions League. Leicester have been in and around the top 4 in recent seasons, so could be considered that. West Ham are in somewhat rarefied air for them, so would be a risky move, given there’s every chance they slump back into their usual bottom half malaise.

Even so, all these clubs are prone to that. Villa could just as easily have a West Ham style season next year and qualify for Europe. Or they could have a nightmare and be in a relegation fight. If he’s happy where he is and Villa don’t need the money, may as well stay put unless one of the really big clubs come calling.

You also have to consider whether said big clubs will come after Grealish or not. Can’t imagine Villa would sell both in the same summer.