McGinn to West Ham

[Oscar T Grouch]

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I was reading a couple of Aston Villa and West Ham fan pages posts and they say that Moyes is apparently willing to spend £40million to sign him this summer. If my calculations are correct we should receive £6million from Aston Villa and then we would have to give away £2million to St Mirren due to their sell on clause which means we would have £4million to play with in the summer.

I have gone through the Villa and WH forums and cannot find this mentioned anywhere. I may have missed some forums, but looking at the main ones, Villa Talk, KUMB, WHonline.net etc there is absolutely nothing along this line. There is a lot of fans unimpressed by SJM at Villa at the moment and I have not seen one post in regards to SJM on a West Ham forum. Which fans pages were you looking at?

[scoopyboy]

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I hope he doesn’t go to West Ham

I don't particularly want him to leave Aston Villa for West Ham either, I love watching him and Grealish in the same team.

However I would settle for him going to West Ham in an instant if it meant us getting £4 million in to our club, or to any other team for that matter.

[scoopyboy]

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I have gone through the Villa and WH forums and cannot find this mentioned anywhere. I may have missed some forums, but looking at the main ones, Villa Talk, KUMB, WHonline.net etc there is absolutely nothing along this line. There is a lot of fans unimpressed by SJM at Villa at the moment and I have not seen one post in regards to SJM on a West Ham forum. Which fans pages were you looking at?

I seen it but can't remember what it was on.

[Hibbyradge]

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Champions League football would be a step up irrespective of size of club etc.

The Rangers? 😳

[Hibbyradge]

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I have gone through the Villa and WH forums and cannot find this mentioned anywhere. I may have missed some forums, but looking at the main ones, Villa Talk, KUMB, WHonline.net etc there is absolutely nothing along this line. There is a lot of fans unimpressed by SJM at Villa at the moment and I have not seen one post in regards to SJM on a West Ham forum. Which fans pages were you looking at?

There is some mention of it, but it was quickly dismissed.

[Wilson]

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I have gone through the Villa and WH forums and cannot find this mentioned anywhere. I may have missed some forums, but looking at the main ones, Villa Talk, KUMB, WHonline.net etc there is absolutely nothing along this line. There is a lot of fans unimpressed by SJM at Villa at the moment and I have not seen one post in regards to SJM on a West Ham forum. Which fans pages were you looking at?

I wonder what kind of fan would be unimpressed with John McGinn. I read an article that suggests that the shine gets taken off him because Grealish does the things that get them off their seats. In terms of putting in the hard work though there can't be anyone better?

He has missed one game all season for them and that was through suspension - obviously an important cog in that Villa team. I hope he gets a big move and these Villains will quickly realise what they've lost.

[Hibbyradge]

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I wonder what kind of fan would be unimpressed with John McGinn. I read an article that suggests that the shine gets taken off him because Grealish does the things that get them off their seats. In terms of putting in the hard work though there can't be anyone better?

He has missed one game all season for them and that was through suspension - obviously an important cog in that Villa team. I hope he gets a big move and these Villains will quickly realise what they've lost.

I read someone saying that he dives!

[MrSmith]

SJM should be a stick on for Man Utd! Absolute fit.

[darwenhibby]

How old is John 26??
Hibs would need him to move on within the next 12 months.
Any big money moves won’t be in the£40m + category as there would be limited sell on value for players who then would be in their 30s

[Shrekko]

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I wonder what kind of fan would be unimpressed with John McGinn. I read an article that suggests that the shine gets taken off him because Grealish does the things that get them off their seats. In terms of putting in the hard work though there can't be anyone better?

He has missed one game all season for them and that was through suspension - obviously an important cog in that Villa team. I hope he gets a big move and these Villains will quickly realise what they've lost.

To be fair, although he does seem to have taken a bit of criticism this season, most of their fans are still very much on his side and a lot are complaining about him having to play the defensive role.

As you say- Dean Smith is still a huge fan, which is all that's important.

[hibbyfraelibby]

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Where is the £2M (potential) to St Mirren coming from? As far as I’m aware, they were settled up when SJM moved to Villa. I can’t see them having inserted another move on clause type payment after that.

Its how Scottish clubs can extract max value for developing talent when the carpet baggers from the south come calling. They now insert sell on clauses that are enforceable over a players career up to a certain age unless bought out by the player. Not sure of the exact legal term but it works a bit like intellectual property rights. Something to thank Rodders for.

[Dunbar Hibee]

I'm a West Ham man and there's definitely substance to it, Moyes has always been an admirer. I would suspect it depends what happens re Europe.

[Shrekko]

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I'm a West Ham man and there's definitely substance to it, Moyes has always been an admirer. I would suspect it depends what happens re Europe.

and/or if Rice is sold?

[Dunbar Hibee]

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and/or if Rice is sold?

I think unfortunately that Rice will be away, have a feeling that Man United may try to involve him in a deal with Lingard, and would imagine other clubs will be in for him too. I suppose it will all depend on where West Ham finish in the league, if could secure a CL spot I could see him wanting to have a crack at that. But in answer to your question, I think Moyes will be in for McGinn either way.

[neil7908]

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I don't particularly want him to leave Aston Villa for West Ham either, I love watching him and Grealish in the same team.

However I would settle for him going to West Ham in an instant if it meant us getting £4 million in to our club, or to any other team for that matter.

Agreed. I love SJM but Hibs are my priority and £4m is crazy money for us. Imagine getting our cut of his transfer fee and group stage European football next season. That could genuinely transform the club.

[Peevemor]

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Agreed. I love SJM but Hibs are my priority and £4m is crazy money for us. Imagine getting our cut of his transfer fee and group stage European football next season. That could genuinely transform the club.

We're not used to that kind of money. I'd hope that Ron would call Dr Mrs Budge for advice how to spend it.

[007]

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I have gone through the Villa and WH forums and cannot find this mentioned anywhere. I may have missed some forums, but looking at the main ones, Villa Talk, KUMB, WHonline.net etc there is absolutely nothing along this line. There is a lot of fans unimpressed by SJM at Villa at the moment and I have not seen one post in regards to SJM on a West Ham forum. Which fans pages were you looking at?

Don't know about forums but there is definitely some chat about it.

https://www.hammers.news/transfer-ne...r-john-mcginn/

[007]

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To be fair, although he does seem to have taken a bit of criticism this season, most of their fans are still very much on his side and a lot are complaining about him having to play the defensive role.

As you say- Dean Smith is still a huge fan, which is all that's important.

They might be looking at 9 goals in 14 games for Scotland and thinking he should be played further forward.

You'd expect Moyes to have been watching all the Scotland matches so that may be what makes him decide to make a move.

[Stuart93]

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Agreed. I love SJM but Hibs are my priority and £4m is crazy money for us. Imagine getting our cut of his transfer fee and group stage European football next season. That could genuinely transform the club.

Imagine we’re in a position in the summer with £4m from SJM & £3.5m for nisbet. Transforming amounts of money

[hibsbollah]

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Imagine we’re in a position in the summer with £4m from SJM & £3.5m for nisbet. Transforming amounts of money

We should use it to invest in pub chains throughout the southwest of England

[The Modfather]

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I think unfortunately that Rice will be away, have a feeling that Man United may try to involve him in a deal with Lingard, and would imagine other clubs will be in for him too. I suppose it will all depend on where West Ham finish in the league, if could secure a CL spot I could see him wanting to have a crack at that. But in answer to your question, I think Moyes will be in for McGinn either way.

West Ham could play a blinder. Sell Rice for crazy money with the English premium, say £60m/£70m and sign McGinn for say £40m. Money in the bank and probably comparable quality in terms of swapping McGinn for Rice.

[Spudster]

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We should use it to invest in pub chains throughout the southwest of England

[Kaff]

If West Ham are genuinely interested and start negotiations then we should hope it pricks the ears of clubs with deeper pockets and there's a bit of pressure on the fee, could easily add another £1m on what we'd get.
I'm hoping he's off this season as it would perfectly set us to grow the squad and keep in the top 4 at a time when Euro opportunities are getting more lucrative too.

[Oscar T Grouch]

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Don't know about forums but there is definitely some chat about it.

https://www.hammers.news/transfer-ne...r-john-mcginn/

Cheers 007, I was looking on forum post rather than news articles which is probably why I couldn't see anything.

[Oscar T Grouch]

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I wonder what kind of fan would be unimpressed with John McGinn. I read an article that suggests that the shine gets taken off him because Grealish does the things that get them off their seats. In terms of putting in the hard work though there can't be anyone better?

He has missed one game all season for them and that was through suspension - obviously an important cog in that Villa team. I hope he gets a big move and these Villains will quickly realise what they've lost.

I was surprised to see the negativity towards SJM on the Villa forum, but that does seem to be very recent and over the almost 300 pages on him most are complimentary rather than negative. He is being played too deep by Dean Smith though. I think a move would do him good and that in turn will do us some good too.

[Inconsequential]

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We should use it to invest in pub chains throughout the southwest of England

Brilliant idea! With the pubs re-opening down south what can possibly go wrong?

[Bristolhibby]

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Not bad for some huh! Two future clauses.

I think it’s a standard development fee.

The club that put the early graft should get the reward.

Right, where’s our next batch of kids. Golden Generation Mk2?

J

[Since452]

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We should use it to invest in pub chains throughout the southwest of England

Then maybe Ann Budge could "save" us when it went Pete Tong

[Magpie]

If Declan Rice was to leave then I wouldn’t be surprised to see West Ham try and sign McGinn. I can’t see either of those things happening this summer though.

[calumhibee1]

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We're not used to that kind of money. I'd hope that Ron would call Dr Mrs Budge for advice how to spend it.

Don’t you mean how to embezzle it?

Ron would 100% trouser every penny of it. Jambos told me so.