McGinn to West Ham

[Itsnoteasy]

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I will support any club that SJM goes to. Literally any club given he wouldn’t go to any of the cretinous clubs like Huns/Millwall/Hertz

Celtic...

[LeithMike]

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Not this season I don't think he's had rave reviews. I had a read of the villa forum and quite a few posters were saying they should be looking to improve and McGinn a squad player next season.

They comments may or may not be justified, I don't watch Villa all that often to comment fully, but the idea that he is fantastic event week and on the verge of a move to one of England's biggest clubs seems to be a bit ott.

Agree with this to a certain extent. McGinn seems to have struggled when Grealish has been out injured and the Villa midfield has lacked creativity and SJM hasn't really stepped up.

I think to get the best out of McGinn you've got to be aware of his strengths and weaknesses and play to his strengths. For me, he's not skillful or creative enough to be an attacking midfielder and he's not composed enough on the ball or a good enough passer to be a defensive or holding midfielder.

What he has his is amazing energy, drive, determination and strength and he's got good ability to back that up. For me, that makes him one of the best box to box midfielders in world football. Pair him with a good attacking and defensive midfielder and he'd improve any team, including Man Utd and Liverpool. Expect him to be your source of creativity or to sit and hold and he will disappoint.

Despite his goals for Scotland, I don't think Clarke has got the best out of him yet and he flits between holding him back or playing him too far forward.

To me that detracts from his greatest attributes - getting around the pitch. As a basketball coach once said about Dennis Rodman, you don't put a saddle on a mustang!

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[Andy74]

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Agree with this to a certain extent. McGinn seems to have struggled when Grealish has been out injured and the Villa midfield has lacked creativity and SJM hasn't really stepped up.

I think to get the best out of McGinn you've got to be aware of his strengths and weaknesses and play to his strengths. For me, he's not skillful or creative enough to be an attacking midfielder and he's not composed enough on the ball or a good enough passer to be a defensive or holding midfielder.

What he has his is amazing energy, drive, determination and strength and he's got good ability to back that up. For me, that makes him one of the best box to box midfielders in world football. Pair him with a good attacking and defensive midfielder and he'd improve any team, including Man Utd and Liverpool. Expect him to be your source of creativity or to sit and hold and he will disappoint.

Despite his goals for Scotland, I don't think Clarke has got the best out of him yet and he flits between holding him back or playing him too far forward.

To me that detracts from his greatest attributes - getting around the pitch. As a basketball coach once said about Dennis Rodman, you don't put a saddle on a mustang!

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A lot of what you say here is sensible enough but John McGinn is not one of the top box to box midfield players in world football.

[LeithMike]

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A lot of what you say here is sensible enough but John McGinn is not one of the top box to box midfield players in world football.

Yeah, maybe got a wee bit carried away. Would like to see him in a top team to see how he does.

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[Since90+2]

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Yeah, maybe got a wee bit carried away. Would like to see him in a top team to see how he does.

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I would argue he's not even the best midfielder in the Scotland squad at the moment.

[scoopyboy]

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I would argue he's not even the best midfielder in the Scotland squad at the moment.

In terms of goal scoring he is.

When strikers aren't scoring you need midfielders to chip in.

His goals have been invaluable over the last couple of years.

[Spike Mandela]

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I would argue he's not even the best midfielder in the Scotland squad at the moment.

I bet he’s the first name on the team sheet though.

[Spudster]

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A lot of what you say here is sensible enough but John McGinn is not one of the top box to box midfield players in world football.

I'd say he's there or thereabouts. As much to do with his ability and the current trend of very few box to box midfielders in the game.

[Since90+2]

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I bet he’s the first name on the team sheet though.

He's certainly one of the first I'd imagine.

Scott Mctominay is probably a better player than him though. That's no slight on McGinn as he's a good player himself.

[mjhibby]

Any player is only worth what any suitors will pay. Mcburnie going for nearly £20m proves that. We all have our opinions on players but it's what a potential buyer sees in him and what he brings to a team and he looks ideal for Man U or arsenal and also spurs. If Grealish doesn’t go then sjm could well be on the move if villa get a high enough bid. Let the speculation run riot.

[hibsforeurope]

West Ham would be a poor move for John, as soon as fans are allowed back in to stadiums they will be back to bottom half as per usual.

There is far more potential at Leeds, SJM would suit Bielsa's style too.

[21.05.2016]

What an absolutely cracking player he's developed into, he's gone from strength to strength and deserves 100% another big move. Seems like a really decent, down to earth lad as well so good on him and i'll continue to follow his career with great interest and wish him every success

Makes you laugh at Celtic though. What a player they could have landed if they hadn't been doing their usual and tryna play funny buggers and short change another Scottish club for a prize asset. More fool them and a much better move for John to go down South and cut it with the big boys which he ahs more than done!

[hibbysam]

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West Ham would be a poor move for John, as soon as fans are allowed back in to stadiums they will be back to bottom half as per usual.

There is far more potential at Leeds, SJM would suit Bielsa's style too.

Potential in terms of the club? There’s no way Leeds have more potential than West Ham. When you think in terms of location, fan base, stadium size, the money they save on their stadium compared to the rest of the league, current standing in the league.

[basehibby]

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I think Villa will price out anyone that wants McGinn for as long as they stay in the Premier League.

If they're sensible they won't be in any hurry to sell SJM because quite simply they will struggle to fill his boots. Hopefully some day though that ship will come in and Hibs will enjoy a handsome pay day. (And St Mirren!)

[Steven79]

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Potential in terms of the club? There’s no way Leeds have more potential than West Ham. When you think in terms of location, fan base, stadium size, the money they save on their stadium compared to the rest of the league, current standing in the league.

Leeds are a far bigger club with a fanbase that West Ham would kill for.

[Since90+2]

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Leeds are a far bigger club with a fanbase that West Ham would kill for.

To be honest I don't think there's much between them. Everton, Leeds, West Ham there are a few English clubs who are much of a muchness in terms of their bigglieness.

[wookie70]

I'm hoping he gets two moves but because SJM is very loyal and also seems to plan his career and next steps carefully then I expect there will only be one. West Ham may get into the Champions League this year but it will be something that seldom happens. I get the feeling SJM will want a club that plays in the CL every year and with talks of super leagues players will be wanting to play on that stage so will want a move to one of those 6 teams. SJM is more than capable of performing at that level and I am hoping he stays at Villa one more Year, has a great Euros and then goes to one of the Super Six who will be able to pay a massive premium for players

[Dunbar Hibee]

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Leeds are a far bigger club with a fanbase that West Ham would kill for.

Nonsense.

[Since452]

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Leeds are a far bigger club with a fanbase that West Ham would kill for.

Do West Ham not have 50 odd thousand season ticket holders? Leeds would struggle to match that

[Hibbyradge]

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Do West Ham not have 50 odd thousand season ticket holders? Leeds would struggle to match that

Actually, I'm not sure they would struggle other than social distancing might be a bit tricky as Elland Road holds less than 40k. 😁

Seriously though, it's virtually impossible to get a ticket to a Leeds game and their 23k season tickets are alway sold out.

Although Sheffield United and Wednesday would try to dispute it, Leeds are probably the biggest club in Yorkshire which has the same population as Scotland.

I don't think they'd have too much difficulty doubling their ST numbers.

[Iain G]

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Do West Ham not have 50 odd thousand season ticket holders? Leeds would struggle to match that

Yeah it's quality of fans not quantity, we know this from the 400,000 season ticket holders at Tynecastle...

[Since90+2]

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Do West Ham not have 50 odd thousand season ticket holders? Leeds would struggle to match that

I don't think they would to be honest.

The Leeds metropolitan area has a population of 2.5 million and it's a one team city in an area that is likely to be fairly football mad.

[cabbageandribs1875]

plans are quite advanced for the capacity at Elland Road increased to 50k with a rebuild of the West Stand


Leeds fans were voted last year in the top four of best club fans in england

Newcastle/Villa/Liverpool/Leeds, they give their teams tremendous backing

[1van Sprou7e]

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I bet he’s the first name on the team sheet though.

Yup still our most important player along with Tierney

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Scores v Man City 💵

[Nicho87]

Love him.

[cameronw-hfc]

Villa have built a very, very good young team. I'm not sure SJM will want to leave. He will be looking at the team and along with Grealish and Konsa thinking they can push on even further. Just my opinion, albeit very biased(Villa and Hibs)

[IWasThere2016]

Liverpool,. Man U or Spurs if Brenda goes there

[NorthNorfolkHFC]

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Villa have built a very, very good young team. I'm not sure SJM will want to leave. He will be looking at the team and along with Grealish and Konsa thinking they can push on even further. Just my opinion, albeit very biased(Villa and Hibs)

Grealish may be a stick on to leave this summer, might make him reconsider.

[jacomo]

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Grealish may be a stick on to leave this summer, might make him reconsider.

Where’s he going?

Villa fan, living the dream. Villa would want £££ for Grealish and I don’t know who would offer that.