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Thread: Doig linked with Leicester move
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07-04-2021 11:08 AM #61
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07-04-2021 11:15 AM #62
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We need to sell our strategy, our model of player development, in-turn developing their careers from the earliest possible moment.
We’d be running a bulldozer through our strategy.
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07-04-2021 11:16 AM #63This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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07-04-2021 11:31 AM #65
How much did Celtic get for Kieran Tierney? How much did Rangers get for Alan Hutton?
At his age Doig is as good if not better than both of these players at the same age. If he stays with us for two years clubs will be queuing up with much better offers.
He reminds me so much of John Brownlie at that age and is on a par with him. Some of his delivery into the box is outstanding.
If we get a run in Europe next year he will learn a lot and only improve. Clubs in England have paid £10m to £20m for 18 and 19 years old players.
Don't make the mistake Hearts made with Hickey, who is a quality player IMHO.
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07-04-2021 11:35 AM #66
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You aren't first choice left back at the team sitting 3rd in the Scottish Premiership at 18 years old unless you are a very good player. He's done exceptionally well.
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07-04-2021 11:41 AM #67
Doig has a lot to learn and Hibs is the best place for him to do just that. There’s clearly a lot of potential there, but he’s nowhere close to being the player we would all like him to become.
Look at Porteous. When he broke through there was a lot of us on here saying how good he was/ would become. Three seasons in and he’s maybe not quite the player some of our more optimistic posters thought he was?
SJM was ahead of Doig in years and achievements when he joined Hibs. He progressed here and earneda big money move, after three seasons.
Doig is in the same category for me. Good breakthrough season, but a long, long way to go. It’s a steep learning curve and he’s established himself as a first team player, an excellent achievement. However, he needs to consolidate that and improve his all round game before even considering leaving Hibs.
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07-04-2021 11:45 AM #68
Hopefully he is being advised that further game time will see his development improve and that another season would mean it is more likely that when he does move he will be able to command a starting berth at Leicester or wherever he ends up. Also the option of a European campaign will do his prospects no harm either. I hope we hold onto him for at least one more season.
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07-04-2021 11:48 AM #69This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
For example Scott Brown signing for Celtic was announced well before the transfer window opened.
Not a pre contract but an actual transfer. Played against Celtic in his last game and scored the winner at Easter Road.
Was registered first day of the transfer window.
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07-04-2021 11:51 AM #70This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I don’t think Porteous is a good example FWIW, however to run with that, does that not just show that players don’t alway fulfil their potential and there’s an element of having to take good offers for players when they come.
The same very much applies to the player. If he gets the chance of a big move he 100% needs to take it. His form could dip, he could get injured, we could change manager and not get on with the new one
The idea that if he stays at Hibs he will always progress how he has done doesn’t stand up to any scrutiny. If you’re the player and you get the chance of joining a huge club, there’s absolutely. I question you need to take it.
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07-04-2021 11:57 AM #71This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
No, not contradictory I don’t think.
It’s not all about what the player wants either. I wouldn’t be too desperate to sell of our assets and hope Hibs have more ambition for the club than you.
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07-04-2021 11:59 AM #72This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
IIRC he finally agreed to join Celtic about a week before that final match when he scored against them.
When the window opened, he signed a contract and was registered - 16th May to be exact.
So, while a player and club can desire a move, they can not sign for another club til the window opens unless its a PCA and that wont apply to Doig.
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07-04-2021 12:03 PM #73This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Selling players doesn't show a lack of ambition if it's reinvested very well.
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07-04-2021 12:19 PM #74
I was under the impression that a player could only sign a pre contract in the last year of his contract, is that still the case? If we accepted £1.5m for him then surely we wouldn’t be able to buy another player with the same potential without spending a large chunk of that money. Better keep and enjoy him for a while.
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07-04-2021 12:19 PM #75This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Window opens on June 1st for example.
I could well be wrong but I thought he signed a few weeks before the Celtic game.
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07-04-2021 12:22 PM #76This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Transfer window is completely made up. Hibs could sell Doig tomorrow. He would just join Leicester when the window opened.
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07-04-2021 12:34 PM #77
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I'll stick with what we have and see if we can develop a decent young talent into a much bigger asset, whilst the club as a whole takes advantage of having a good manager and strong squad of players. Selling at the first sniff of cash wouldn't exactly be sending out the right message for me.
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07-04-2021 01:09 PM #79This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
What are you suggesting, Leicester would just fire £1.5m to Hibs tomorrow when he (a) cant legally sign for them and (b) cant sign a PCA ??
If your premise is true, why are we not hearing daily news updates about these transfers in the (very wealthy) EPL, and why is there such a flap about TDD twice a year if its all made up?
Murphy signed for Hibs on a one season loan during the last summer window - with an obligation to transfer his registration permanently to Hibs for another year on the expiration of his Rangers deal at the end of this season.
We can do this for as long as you want.
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07-04-2021 01:16 PM #80This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Pre-contract is a special case where the caveat about having the permission of the player's current club before talking to them no longer applies. But the situation regarding registration is no different.
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07-04-2021 01:23 PM #81
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Do people think recruitment teams are just twiddling their thumbs when the window is shut?
There could easily be truth to this story. Loads of clubs would want to sign Doig.
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07-04-2021 01:35 PM #82
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Shortly after he signed for Celtic.
May have got that totally wrong though.Last edited by PatHead; 07-04-2021 at 01:38 PM.
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07-04-2021 01:42 PM #83This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Just now Aberdeen have a stadium that either needs a lot of work or a new stadium altogether, Hearts are £20m into a new stand and markedly inferior training facilities. We have HTC, we have the new East Stand. The problems came from not investing enough in the team - Petrie looked after every penny to the detriment of the first team in the end. When we won the Scottish cup, Lennon blew a lot of it on absolute dross like Big Dave, Slivka and the like.
With no immediate infrastructure work, a reasonable recent record in scouting and excellent training facilities, we're miles ahead in what we can do with player sales compared to our rivals, even with us all feeling the effects of the pandemic.
Player sales can be a good thing - as long as you have enough depth in that position (and with Stevenson and Mackie we do), and the scouting of new talent to bring in with that money is good (and we've really been the best we have been in years at that just now).
Not desperate to see Doig go, but would also be excited to see where we could propel ourselves with a couple of million in our pockets.
I think it's because we've not seen enough reinvestment in the first team in recent years that we've
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07-04-2021 01:45 PM #84This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I for one thought he was going to Ibrox after hearing the stories that he was from a village in Fife that was a Rangers stronghold.
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07-04-2021 01:52 PM #85This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
His agent was - as has been mentioned above - playing both sides behind the scenes and it emerged just before the end of the season that he had decided to move to Celtic - which was a major surprise.
For Hibs it was irrelevant, we had a specific fee decided (and had clearly told the agent) and as long as it was met we were not fussed who paid it.
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07-04-2021 02:13 PM #86
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07-04-2021 02:21 PM #87This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
tbh I hadnt really thought of the Euro angle - but if we get third and either win the cup or its one of the two clubs above us - we are in European football til Christmas, which - as you say - gives us such a lot more exposure.
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07-04-2021 02:44 PM #88This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Latest example being Dayot Upemecano signing for Bayern. He’ll join them in the summer but the fee and the players deal are all agreed already.
The Scott Brown scenario was exactly the same.
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07-04-2021 02:51 PM #89This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You are dead wrong but you can keep arguing. A recent example is Erling haaland was announced by dortmund at the end of December 2019 and joined on January 3rd when the window opened in Germany. Happens all the time. Players are announced regularly outside of transfer windows. Mario Gotzw is another famous example. Announced before Bayern played Dortmund in the CL final.
It is all made up because that is the open time you can register new players. You can sign them in advance whenever you want. You literally do here constant transfer rumours.
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07-04-2021 02:52 PM #90This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I'm excited to see where this current team can go. I'm struggling to think of a time in my 50 years of going to matches whereby Hibs have sold good players and replaced them adequately.
I also disagree your point about left back. With Mackie, injuries aside (but bearing them in mind), he's not done anything like enough to suggest he is going to fill the left back spot. Lewis isn't going to take the team forward at this stage in his career.
If we were offered a significantly higher sum than the one quoted, then I would take it. The amount mentioned isn't going to transform Hibs. Better off keeping our assets, showing the fans and the manager we mean to build something more enduring, using the talent we have to win a trophy. That's how Hibs will get more money out of me.
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