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Thread: Doig linked with Leicester move
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07-04-2021 08:52 AM #31
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07-04-2021 08:54 AM #32
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I have the upmost trust and confidence in the club. If the deal isn't worth it to Hibs, Hibs wont sell. They have proved that time and again. More relaxed about outgoing transfers than I've ever been. We're in good hands. Doesn't matter what any media source says.
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07-04-2021 09:04 AM #33
John and I were talking about this (not the bid specifically. but Doig and others moving on) and this kind of move is exactly what Hibs' model is at the moment. Whether £1.5m is the point we'd want to sell is another story, but as Bingo said £1.5m with good add-ons is likely to be a very lucrative sale for us long term, given Doig's age.
The benefit of selling McGinn and him doing so well at Villa is that it gives us and Scottish football some credibility (see also Tierney, Robertson and Van Dijk etc) so English clubs with all their money can have some confidence in spending it with us.
For Hibs, we have seen that we are prepared to spend on sellable talent - Nisbet and Magennis being two recent examples, so when they move on (along with Porteous and Doig) we start the process again, but from a better starting point (i.e. instead of finding a £250k striker and selling for £3m, we can spend £500k on a striker and sell for £5m (for example)).
This improves the standard of our squad, gives us more chance of tangible success (cup runs, league placings and European football) and if you get that process right over a number of seasons you're soon in a position where we are breaking our own highest transfer records both for spend and receipt.
I have said this before, and it's why I am so keen for HSL to really ignite, but we have moved from a board who were cautiously ambitious and were happy to spend a pound less than we earned as a sustainable model, to an owner who is a little more aggressively ambitious and who will (again within controlled budgets) speculate on players knowing that there's a re-sale market there. That along with Gordon's plans to drive income into the club from other avenues, means that if we get it right, then we are staring into some spectacularly good years as Hibs fans.
The opportunity is right in front of us just now, if we secure third and things go our way with the cup (with either us or Rangers or Celtic winning it) then we go into next season with guaranteed European money, potential sale income in the multi-millions, and significant prize money for our league placing. We'll have the opportunity then to get better sponsorship deals etc and so we are uniquely placed (amongst the non-Glasgow sides) to emerge from COVID in really good financial health.
The competitive advantage that could give us for years to come cannot be understated - we go into a position where we should be favourites for third place and more Euro income next season, again this widens the gap financially on the teams around us, and could (with a kind wind) really cement us as the third biggest/most successful side in Scotland for a generation to come.Follow the Hibs podcast, Longbangers, on Twitter (@longbangers)
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07-04-2021 09:05 AM #34This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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07-04-2021 09:10 AM #35
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Media linking are players because we're playing Rangers or Celtic is one of these myths that has grown over the years. If nothing else, it would serve no purpose, as there's no way a player is so weak that he'd let being linked in a newspaper to Leicester affect his performance in a Hibs v Rangers game.
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07-04-2021 09:11 AM #36This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Much less with add-ons like Birmingham winning the Premier League and Champions League.
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07-04-2021 09:19 AM #38
Rodgers must only think £1.5m is what all our players are worth. you'd have thought he'd learnt his lesson missing out on SJM!
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07-04-2021 09:21 AM #39This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I don't think it just breeds confidence in clubs looking to purchase players from us but also confidence in young talents who want to make sure that they're taking the right step in their career.
Just now if you had Hearts, Aberdeen and Hibs in for you, there's a clear choice as to who you're most likely to progress your career with. I wonder if the lad McRorie is regretting picking Aberdeen now they look like a terrible team.
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07-04-2021 09:23 AM #40
The more teams interested the better. Arsenal, Man City also rumoured to be watching him. Good end to the season and scoring the winner and MOTM performance in the cup final should see a bidding war!! Alternatively he stays for another couple of seasons and we keep a very good player
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07-04-2021 09:25 AM #41This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
SJM leaving left a massive SJM-shaped hole in our midfield, and arguably it’s taken us until this season to get the balance right again.
I am not saying we shouldn’t have done the deal - it was obviously right at the time - but he had been here for 3 seasons at that point.
Nisbet, Magennis and Doig are in their first season. Why the rush to sell?
The most important part of the equation is putting a good Hibs team on the park - that requires consistency and players who are committed to us.
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07-04-2021 09:34 AM #42
He's just signed a contract keeping him here until 2025.
Are we desperate for £1.5m? Is Foig likely to be worth a lot less than that in a couple or 3 years?
I think the answer is no to both of those questions so if that's the case, there's absolutely no reason to sell him unless it was for a collosal sum with huge add one.
Someone above said that it was a myth that the papers ran these stories to unsettle players before games against Rantic. Myth or not, it is a remarkably regular coincidence.
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07-04-2021 09:43 AM #43This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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07-04-2021 10:02 AM #44
Doig is a young lad who had a good season in Div2 at Queens Park and has developed enough to be 1st pick for us and all by the age of 18, £1.5M with a good add on to a big club is exactly what will be expected and we'll probably take it, if this had been his 2nd season as our number 1 LB then we'd be looking at nearer £3m.
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07-04-2021 10:10 AM #45
So many spelling mistakes and auto corrects, anyway as everyone is saying I don’t think we’ll be biting at £1.5m for Doig anytime soon.
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07-04-2021 10:18 AM #46
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I don’t understand why people think Hibs players are worth more than any offer we would actually get. 1.5m is probably about right but I’m not sure we’d sell at the moment
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07-04-2021 10:22 AM #47
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£1.5m to £2.5m is about the range we'll get, depending on the add-ons. I have a feeling this will be the Hickey situation again this summer and he'll be away but not without a bit of a frenzy between about 4/5 big name clubs.
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07-04-2021 10:26 AM #50
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Why do our players always seem to have a value of around £1-£1.5m, according to red top journalists?
Doig is not worth that. He is worth a lot more. Find some of their valuation "theories" staggering at times.
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07-04-2021 10:26 AM #51This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
A 30 year old you would sell at the going rate but not an 18 year old that has the ability to go far in the game.
I don't want to sell him for a while yet but if we had to sell right now I would be looking for double what is being quoted.
He has a good physique already and that will get better, he is ideally suited to succeed in the English game.
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07-04-2021 10:26 AM #52
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07-04-2021 10:28 AM #53
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Decent football section with good stats and David Provan's page has comic value.
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07-04-2021 10:40 AM #55
£80m transfer fee received for the donkey that is Harry Maguire. They can cough up an extra few million for Josh Doig for sure. £1.5m is laughable given he has been on fire, has all the attributes to be a top players and has four years left with us. Jog on Brendan.
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07-04-2021 10:45 AM #56
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07-04-2021 10:57 AM #57
There’s no way we should be selling Doig for that money. People may be correct that his value right now is £1.5m based on what he’s achieved so far, but that’s an extremely short sighted view. If he continues to progress at the rate he has been his value will be double that this time next year. He’s just signed a new contract and we’ve shown we value holding on to our players if our valuation isn’t met. If someone wants to make an offer we couldn’t refuse, then fair enough, but right now the value is in keeping him here and letting him develop. There’s risk involved for us, but it’s worth it imo.
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07-04-2021 10:57 AM #58
No chance he’s playing in the EPL next season.
I think he’ll be with us for at least next season and probably the one after.
We’re in no hurry to sell and there has been nothing to suggest that he wants anything other than to progress at Hibs.
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07-04-2021 11:03 AM #59
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He's under contract until 2025, we should just come out and put a £10 million price tag on him and say he's going nowhere unless that valuation is met in an upfront payment. I'm sure the interest will disappear once those English clubs realise they are not getting him on the cheap.
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07-04-2021 11:06 AM #60
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