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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    I just received this reply, i was the first name, although it makes no odds if the opponent is not in the country.

    And only yesterday i found out the same people involved allowed an extention to the ladies comp this season.

    Gary,

    Good evening,


    Thank you for your patience, I have been around other hotels in the region this week and needed to speak to the team at Blackpool as to the reasons for what has happened.


    I believe that this captain has also been involved in the decision that has been made.


    We do unfortunately have to set deadlines for the games that were published back in April/May of when each round/game had to be played.


    I can only sincerely apologise that on this occasion it has meant that the game hasn't been played in time, can I check if a conversation took place between the two of you if you could agree that one or the other proceeded to the next round under the circumstances?


    We do try and organise as many social competitions as possible but do leave this where we can in the hands of the membership to organise the matches themselves.


    I will ensure that Richard does speak to the team to ensure that communication is clearer as it is disappointing to read that you were not informed of the consequences of the game not being played before the end of August.


    The last thing we want is a disappointed member. I would therefore as a gesture of goodwill invite you to a complimentary table of four for food at the hotel so that we can look to restore your faith in Village Blackpool.


    Regards


    Stuart Davies


    A whitewash job! Personally I think it's better if both players are held jointly responsible for arranging ties as it reduces the risk of the the game not being played.

    However , as you rightly say, it would make no difference in this instance as your opponent was on holiday.

    Imo he should have done the right thing and awarded the tie to you.


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    Playing Panmure today for the first time. Heard loads of good things about it so can't wait!
    Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, vodka in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming, "WOO HOO what a ride!"

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    Come on Bob!!! This is incredible stuff so far!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden Bear View Post
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    A whitewash job! Personally I think it's better if both players are held jointly responsible for arranging ties as it reduces the risk of the the game not being played.

    However , as you rightly say, it would make no difference in this instance as your opponent was on holiday.

    Imo he should have done the right thing and awarded the tie to you.


    I dont know what else i could do, informing the shop at every junction was clearly not enough.

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    St Michaelís yesterday was excellent. Found it pretty hard for my poor level but a great day out.

    Not bad for 12 quid off Groupon.

    Well recommended

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    Anyone ever been fitted at Scott gourlay?

    Won a competition for £1000 worth of irons so decided to get fitted with Scott first, will they be okay if I tell them Iím not ordering through him though?

    And will he give me a print out/email of all the specs etc
    I've been before. I'd imagine there would be no problems but they would certainly take the fitting fee.

    That's how these kinds of places catch you out really. Some refund the fee if you buy through them but specialised places like SGGT take the fee regardless. I know someone who went and they were told by one of the fitters to go work on their technique and go back to them later in the year but they still charged them for the fitting and would have charged them for the fitting later in the year.

    Just a big con if you ask me.

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    Played Glasgow Gailes yesterday. Played well. I was doing a general play and itís come up with a negative pcc. Only the second time Iíve seen this. The first was because of a temp tee shortening a par three ( I think) but not sure why this time. Not even sure how these things are calculated. Itís a secret I think.

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    Played Glasgow Gailes yesterday. Played well. I was doing a general play and itís come up with a negative pcc. Only the second time Iíve seen this. The first was because of a temp tee shortening a par three ( I think) but not sure why this time. Not even sure how these things are calculated. Itís a secret I think.
    Q.*What is the playing conditions calculation (PCC) and how does it work?

    A.*At the end of each day, the playing conditions calculation takes place automatically to determine if scores made at the course were significantly higher or lower than the expected scores of the players who made them, primarily due to weather and/or course set up.

    If scores were abnormally low or high, a PCC adjustment between -1 and +3 will be applied in the calculation of Score Differentials of everyone who played that day. A negative (-) adjustment means the course played easier than expected and a positive (+) adjustment means the course played more difficult than expected. A PCC of 0 means the course played as expected, which will be the case on most days.

    The PCC:

    Uses scoring data so no action is required by the club/course staff or golfer (except for posting scores),

    Includes only scores made by players with a Handicap Index of 36.0 or below,

    Considers both 9-hole and 18-hole scores in the calculation, and

    Only takes place if at least 8 scores were posted on a given day.

    (Rule 5.6, Rules of Handicapping)


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    Q.*What is the playing conditions calculation (PCC) and how does it work?

    A.*At the end of each day, the playing conditions calculation takes place automatically to determine if scores made at the course were significantly higher or lower than the expected scores of the players who made them, primarily due to weather and/or course set up.

    If scores were abnormally low or high, a PCC adjustment between -1 and +3 will be applied in the calculation of Score Differentials of everyone who played that day. A negative (-) adjustment means the course played easier than expected and a positive (+) adjustment means the course played more difficult than expected. A PCC of 0 means the course played as expected, which will be the case on most days.

    The PCC:

    Uses scoring data so no action is required by the club/course staff or golfer (except for posting scores),

    Includes only scores made by players with a Handicap Index of 36.0 or below,

    Considers both 9-hole and 18-hole scores in the calculation, and

    Only takes place if at least 8 scores were posted on a given day.

    (Rule 5.6, Rules of Handicapping)


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    Cheers Jimmy. Its highly unusual for a general play score to be affected. Itís obviously because 8 or more people were doing general scores and played well enough to affect it. Conditions were decent if not perfect with receptive greens in the damp.

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    Cheers Jimmy. Its highly unusual for a general play score to be affected. Itís obviously because 8 or more people were doing general scores and played well enough to affect it. Conditions were decent if not perfect with receptive greens in the damp.
    My course is really wet but the greens are glorious still. I tend to play better in the wet I've found... not the rain like. I shot 75 yesterday which is my best score to date.

    If anyone has seen my earlier posts, I'm actually getting really good. I've worked so hard all year at it. I'm shooting sub 80 whenever I play now which means I'm probably playing off 10 handicap although because it's preferred lies (I never do it, I just play the ball as is), my club won't take cards atm.

    I've been playing as part of the member's role up every 2nd week which means I can get my scores verified. I'm still working on everything and I still have the odd ****house of a hole or even shot but it's the greatest thing I've done. I love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Jimmy View Post
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    My course is really wet but the greens are glorious still. I tend to play better in the wet I've found... not the rain like. I shot 75 yesterday which is my best score to date.

    If anyone has seen my earlier posts, I'm actually getting really good. I've worked so hard all year at it. I'm shooting sub 80 whenever I play now which means I'm probably playing off 10 handicap although because it's preferred lies (I never do it, I just play the ball as is), my club won't take cards atm.

    I've been playing as part of the member's role up every 2nd week which means I can get my scores verified. I'm still working on everything and I still have the odd ****house of a hole or even shot but it's the greatest thing I've done. I love it.

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    Good stuff Jimmy. It’s a great game for all ages and abilities. The trick is to keep it going over the winter (which I rarely do). Even if the courses are unplayable find a range somewhere even if it’s just once a week. If you’re breaking 80 more times than not you’ll be single figures never mind 10. There is no substitute for hard work. Especially the short game.
    Im into my 60’s ,played for 40 years and have just had my most successful season.
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    Played Glasgow Gailes yesterday. Played well. I was doing a general play and itís come up with a negative pcc. Only the second time Iíve seen this. The first was because of a temp tee shortening a par three ( I think) but not sure why this time. Not even sure how these things are calculated. Itís a secret I think.
    The PCC is, I believe, calculated by means of a mysterious algorithm within Scottish Golf's version of the WHS.

    Other than that, then I've still to find someone who is fully aware of the computation. From my own experience, it very rarely fully allows for inclement weather conditions such as a gale force wind!


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    Played the Roxburghe down at Kelso yesterday. Lovely course and beautiful hotel. Bit soggy in places as expected but course was holding up well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patch1875 View Post
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    Played the Roxburghe down at Kelso yesterday. Lovely course and beautiful hotel. Bit soggy in places as expected but course was holding up well.
    Great course, best in the Borders by some distance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by patch1875 View Post
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    Played the Roxburghe down at Kelso yesterday. Lovely course and beautiful hotel. Bit soggy in places as expected but course was holding up well.
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    Great course, best in the Borders by some distance.

    Iíll second that. Iím off to Kingsbarns on Friday. Praying for some decent conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenlex View Post
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    Iíll second that. Iím off to Kingsbarns on Friday. Praying for some decent conditions.
    Another cracking course albeit very expensive. Hope you got a good deal.

    😄👍

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    Anyone a member of Deer Park?

    Iím moving to West Lothian shortly and think about it for joining. Like the idea of the country club facilities but Iíve heard the course struggles through the winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patch1875 View Post
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    Anyone a member of Deer Park?

    Iím moving to West Lothian shortly and think about it for joining. Like the idea of the country club facilities but Iíve heard the course struggles through the winter.
    I played it last winter and it was very soft underfoot
    Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, vodka in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming, "WOO HOO what a ride!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by patch1875 View Post
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    Anyone a member of Deer Park?

    Iím moving to West Lothian shortly and think about it for joining. Like the idea of the country club facilities but Iíve heard the course struggles through the winter.
    Best condition last year in West Lothian hands down was Harburn. Itís not a great winter course to be fair but from early last year to fairly late this year itís been excellent.
    Deer Park is fine but a bit if a slog in the winter as youíve heard. It does have other facilities tho.

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    Thanks all think I will try and play a few of the courses over the winter. Harburn has also been recommended by someone else so definitely going to give that a go.

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    Pumpherston is probably my favourite West Lothian course.

    Not so sure about how it holds up relative to the others through the winter but I love playing it.

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    Finally made it to a 5 handicap (5.2) after trying for over 40 years to get to category one. A fine 77 at a cool and breezy Kingsbarns yesterday., absolutely buzzin.

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    Played Gullane 2 yesterday for the first time since the late 80's

    It's in fabulous condition and I played to my handicap so great day all round
    Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, vodka in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming, "WOO HOO what a ride!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenlex View Post
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    Finally made it to a 5 handicap (5.2) after trying for over 40 years to get to category one. A fine 77 at a cool and breezy Kingsbarns yesterday., absolutely buzzin.
    Welcome to hell! Very good score yesterday over a great course.

    I'm sitting at 4.5 but advancing years are starting to take their toll - especially with the short game.

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    Welcome to hell! Very good score yesterday over a great course.

    I'm sitting at 4.5 but advancing years are starting to take their toll - especially with the short game.
    Cheers GB . A forty odd year journey. Iím sure Iíll be back up to 8 or 9 in the blink of an eye. It doesnít take long under this new system.

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    not a gowfer but


    well done Scottish golf courses :) well, those that keep them anyway

    Scotland wins big at World Golf Awards in Abu Dhabi | The National

    SCOTLAND has been named the best golf destination in the world – having secured a double victory at the 2022 World Golf Awards in Abu Dhabi.
    It is the first time in the award’s nine-year history that Scotland has won the ultimate label of “Best Golf Destination in the World”.
    Around 200 guests from various golfing destinations across the globe attended the Annual Golf Award gala ceremony in the Middle East, where Scotland was also crowned “Best Golf Destination in Europe”, marking the first time that a country has won both awards.
    Scotland beat other golfing destinations to win, including Austria, Italy, Ireland, France and Greece, and had many of its famous golf courses nominated for “Scotland’s Best Golf Course 2022”.
    Scotland, “the home of golf”, has more than 550 courses to play at including championship courses and resorts, parkland courses, and nine-hole courses.
    The Kittocks Course in St Andrews, King’s Course at the Gleneagles Hote, and the Ailsa Course at Turnbury were all nominated – however, Prestwick Golf Club in South Ayrshire took home the prize of “Scotland’s Best Golf Course”.

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    Played the Braids today forgot how hard it is!

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    Played the Braids today forgot how hard it is!
    What condition was it in?

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    What condition was it in?
    Really good couple of winter tees but greens were slow but still holding up well.

    Playing Deer Park on Wednesday as itís an option for joining next year.

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