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    Quote Originally Posted by Peevemor View Post
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    I was responding to a different question (ie. "So what?"). You're the one that went off on a tangent.

    If you don't want crap on .net, I suggest you stop stirring it.
    Simple question is... Is Leigh Griffiths better than what we have - Yes. Is Scott Brown better than what we have - Yes. We need to start thinking about how to get over the line to be successful and get to finals and win trophies with this team.

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    There are 90 minutes in a game so a player completing 10 league games in a season will have played 900 minutes.

    Leigh hasn't managed that for the last 3 seasons so he isn't even a 10 game a season player never mind a 20 goal a season player.

    Someone posted on here that he is on £19k a week so let's say that's true. That means he still has another £1 million to pick up in wages from Celtic before his contract ends. Therefore at the end of this season Celtic would probably have to pay him £700k to go away and that would allow him to go to Aberdeen or Hibs for £4k a week and make the same money.
    However, Celtic is his home so he probably wants to stay there as long as he can, tieing scarves to goal posts when he is fit enough and available to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Hibs View Post
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    Simple question is... Is Leigh Griffiths better than what we have - Yes. Is Scott Brown better than what we have - Yes. We need to start thinking about how to get over the line to be successful and get to finals and win trophies with this team.

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    I agree with you re LG, still looks decent in the few games Iíve seen him play. Iím not paying too much attention to his lack of game time given Lennon was his manager latterly.

    Brown Iím not so sure about, always wondered if heíd get away the same antics with another team that he got away with at Celtic. Add in his age and Iím not fussed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Hibs View Post
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    Simple question is... Is Leigh Griffiths better than what we have - Yes. Is Scott Brown better than what we have - Yes. We need to start thinking about how to get over the line to be successful and get to finals and win trophies with this team.

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    I'd definitely answer no to both of those questions.

    Brown is unlikely to play many games this season. Even if he does, it'll be his swan song, although I suspect he's having that now.

    Is Griffiths a better player than Nisbet? One of them is in the Scotland squad this week with a bright international future ahead of him. The other won't play for Scotland again.

    I'd far rather keep Nisbet than sign Griffiths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    There are 90 minutes in a game so a player completing 10 league games in a season will have played 900 minutes.

    Leigh hasn't managed that for the last 3 seasons so he isn't even a 10 game a season player never mind a 20 goal a season player.

    He's not going to Aberdeen unless Celtic pay him off and he agrees to an incentive based contract with Egotistical Dave.

    Alternative scenario is as follows:
    Someone posted on here that he is on £19k a week so let's say that's true. That means he still has another £1 million to pick up in wages from Celtic before his contract ends. Therefore at the end of this season Celtic would probably have to pay him £700k to go away and that would allow him to go to Aberdeen or Hibs for £4k a week and make the same money.
    However, Celtic is his home so he probably wants to stay there as long as he can, tieing scarves to posts when he is fit enough and available to do so.
    There could also be a scenario where a deal taking Nisbet to Celtic with Griffiths coming to us is a possibility.
    Hypotheticaly of course but could happen all the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    I'd definitely answer no to both of those questions.

    Brown is unlikely to play many games this season. Even if he does, it'll be his swan song, although I suspect he's having that now.

    Is Griffiths a better player than Nisbet? One of them is in the Scotland squad this week with a bright international future ahead of him. The other won't play for Scotland again.

    I'd far rather keep Nisbet than sign Griffiths.
    I guess no one knows if LG still has the hunger he had, but if he can get back to anything like his best I wouldnít rule him out of the Scotland setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffers View Post
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    I guess no one knows if LG still has the hunger he had, but if he can get back to anything like his best I wouldnít rule him out of the Scotland setup.
    That begs another question for the Scotland Euro squad. A fit Leigh Griffiths playing? That would help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Hibs View Post
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    There could also be a scenario where a deal taking Nisbet to Celtic with Griffiths coming to us is a possibility.
    Hypotheticaly of course but could happen all the same.
    There was reference to this yesterday. It was in a ĎCeltic mindedí article somewhere, and broached the subject of Celtic taking advantage of Hibs Ďfinancial problemsí. It was suggested that Celtic should go for Nisbet, Porteous and Doig at discounted prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Hibs View Post
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    That begs another question for the Scotland Euro squad. A fit Leigh Griffiths playing? That would help.
    Unfortunately I canít see that happening. Little chance of him getting much of a chance at Celtic in the remaining games by the looks of things so doubt Clarke will select. Personally though if the choice was a half fit LG in the squad or McBurnie I know who Iíd choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffers View Post
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    I guess no one knows if LG still has the hunger he had, but if he can get back to anything like his best I wouldnít rule him out of the Scotland setup.
    I suppose that's a possibility, but as things currently stand, and looking at all the available evidence, I wouldn't be betting on it happening.

    If he can't flourish at Celtic, it's a big leap to think he will at a club where chances are much more limited.

    I know he didn't always start, but that, in itself, begs the question why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhileTheChief.. View Post
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    Sorry about that, thought you were more thick skinned. I'll bear it in mind for future.
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    Unfortunately I canít see that happening. Little chance of him getting much of a chance at Celtic in the remaining games by the looks of things so doubt Clarke will select. Personally though if the choice was a half fit LG in the squad or McBurnie I know who Iíd choose.
    Clarke's already had him and only played him a few minutes. It;'s not a coincidence that three managers don't trust him to put in a shift.

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    Remember when we were all clamoring for Anthony Stokes to be brought "home" and that if we signed him we would be absolutely unstoppable. Then remember when we actually signed him and we were all saying we were going to be banging the goals in and we would be loving watching us pump teams because of the firepower we would have. Then remember how that went?

    Aye, me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    I suppose that's a possibility, but as things currently stand, and looking at all the available evidence, I wouldn't be betting on it happening.

    If he can't flourish at Celtic, it's a big leap to think he will at a club where chances are much more limited.

    I know he didn't always start, but that, in itself, begs the question why.
    Without wanting to restart the Doidge debate again, I think LG would have scored more than him and finished some of the chances he missed. Then add in his ability at dead balls. All hypothetical of course but I think LG would have scored more than Nisbet too this season if heíd played the same number of games for us.

    Iím like you, have a hope heíll come home and flourish. Tbf none of the Celtic strikers have flourished this season, so Iím not reading too much into that and I think Lennon obviously had issues with him, deserved or not I donít really know.

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    Just over 200 posts in 17 yrs.....
    Why is that important?

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    Simple question is... Is Leigh Griffiths better than what we have - Yes. Is Scott Brown better than what we have - Yes. We need to start thinking about how to get over the line to be successful and get to finals and win trophies with this team.

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    The answer to both qns is NO. LG hasnt been on form for over a season, and SB was being dropped by Celtic as he also isnt half the player he once was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightside View Post
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    The answer to both qns is NO. LG hasnt been on form for over a season, and SB was being dropped by Celtic as he also isnt half the player he once was.
    Who is better that we have then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffers View Post
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    Without wanting to restart the Doidge debate again, I think LG would have scored more than him and finished some of the chances he missed. Then add in his ability at dead balls. All hypothetical of course but I think LG would have scored more than Nisbet too this season if heíd played the same number of games for us.

    Iím like you, have a hope heíll come home and flourish. Tbf none of the Celtic strikers have flourished this season, so Iím not reading too much into that and I think Lennon obviously had issues with him, deserved or not I donít really know.
    That us all very hypothetical as LG just doesn't seem willing or able to be fit enough to play a decent number of games. Also he wouldn't bring the overall game that Doidge does. If he is out the team and replaced with LG it means extra defensive duties for other members of the team
    LG from a few years ago? Yes please, bite your hand off for that. LG of today? Not so sure, could be a very expensive bench warmer

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    Leigh Griffiths will always score goals its in his nature, Scott Brown is different, would he get away with his arrogant ways at any other club?
    I don't think so!!!

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    We could go round in circles.

    Leigh's capable of being by far our best player - maybe even the best striker Scotland has. The question is obviously whether he would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Hibs View Post
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    Who is better that we have then?
    Why donít you tell us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffers View Post
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    Without wanting to restart the Doidge debate again, I think LG would have scored more than him and finished some of the chances he missed. Then add in his ability at dead balls. All hypothetical of course but I think LG would have scored more than Nisbet too this season if heíd played the same number of games for us.

    Iím like you, have a hope heíll come home and flourish. Tbf none of the Celtic strikers have flourished this season, so Iím not reading too much into that and I think Lennon obviously had issues with him, deserved or not I donít really know.
    Don't get me wrong, if he signs for us, I'll forget everything I've learned about getting my hopes up over the last 50 years, and immediately start doing impressions of a teenage girl who's just been given One Direction tickets. 😁😁

    I was like that when Deek resigned, but I almost wish he hadn't come back now because it ended up a bit of a damp squib.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    Definite contender for Best Apology That Isnít Really An Apology 2022.
    I still haven't worked out why I'm getting a hard time on this thread.

    Even though I honestly don't give one, I do object to people inventing stuff about me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfurryhibby View Post
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    Why donít you tell us?
    Already been covered. Already said they are better than what we have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Hibs View Post
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    Who is better that we have then?
    Literally thousands of players are better than those we have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peevemor View Post
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    I still haven't worked out why I'm getting a hard time on this thread.

    Even though I honestly don't give one, I do object to people inventing stuff about me.
    I could be wrong but I think it's the Admin approach without being an Admin.

    Hopefully users who have been registered since early 00's will want to contribute to this thread.

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    Who is better that we have then?
    Who is better than we have? Hundreds of players. Is that really your qn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    Don't get me wrong, if he signs for us, I'll forget everything I've learned about getting my hopes up over the last 50 years, and immediately start doing impressions of a teenage girl who's just been given One Direction tickets. 😁😁

    I was like that when Deek resigned, but I almost wish he hadn't come back now because it ended up a bit of a damp squib.
    Now that one did make me laugh.

    Yes thatís a good point re DR, Iíd hate it to end up similar with LG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibbyradge View Post
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    Literally thousands of players are better than those we have.
    I think you misread... I asked who is better 'that' we have.

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    Already been covered. Already said they are better than what we have.
    They arent. You are totally wrong. Based on what analysis is either player better than what we currently have? Both are past it for different reasons.

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