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    Quote Originally Posted by Peevemor View Post
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    I think something like 1 in 10 people are left handed, but among my musician friends (literally hundreds over the years) this probably rises to maybe 1 in 4.
    Left handed pipers. They're just ****ing weird. Especially the ones that have their hands the wrong way round.😆


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    Quote Originally Posted by speedy_gonzales View Post
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    I too have noticed that a lot of those in the creative arts are left handed,,,, coincidence?
    Equally bewildered that you rarely(never?) find left handed musicians in orchestras???
    Is that because of instrument design, maybe? I once read, also, that a disproportionate percentage of musicians have joint hypermobility, because flexibilty / reach makes a difference to what you can easily achieve on a lot of instruments.

    Edit: just read Peevemor's post, and so clearly I'm wrong about left-handedness and instruments. Can't think then why it would be rare in orchestras.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    Iím left handed for everything except sport where it involves swinging a club or bat. I play a left handed guitar now but used to just play with a right handed one simply turned upside down. Somebody here (Peevemor maybe?) once suggested all lefties should learn instruments right handed, something I wish I had at least attempted now.
    For some instruments there may be a good argument for your stronger hand to be doing certain things, but in general you're learning something entirely new so learning right handed can save all sorts of hassle with instruments in the long term.

    Pianists, for example, don't have a choice and they manage fine.

    Of all the left handed musicians I know, I'd say maybe 75% play right handed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Left handed pipers. They're just ****ing weird. Especially the ones that have their hands the wrong way round.
    I've known ŗ few who have their drones on the "wrong shoulder" but TBH they generally haven't been very good.

    I know a couple of decent players who only inverse their hands. It looks uncomfortable apart from anything else.

    All the other left handed pipers I know play in a normal, non deviant way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s.a.m View Post
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    Is that because of instrument design, maybe? I once read, also, that a disproportionate percentage of musicians have joint hypermobility, because flexibilty / reach makes a difference to what you can easily achieve on a lot of instruments.

    Edit: just read Peevemor's post, and so clearly I'm wrong about left-handedness and instruments. Can't think then why it would be rare in orchestras.
    Practicalities? Imagine a violin section where all but one are right handed. That left hander is going to cause some damage 😆

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peevemor View Post
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    I've known ŗ few who have their drones on the "wrong shoulder" but TBH they generally haven't been very good.

    I know a couple of decent players who only inverse their hands. It looks uncomfortable apart from anything else.

    All the other left handed pipers I know play in a normal, non deviant way.
    One of my favourite players from my childhood was left handed. Maybe I liked him because he was a rebel.😁

    Thinking this through... if you learn on the chanter, everyone should learn the same way, left hand on top, no?
    So the only issue for lefties becomes where they put the drones when they go on to the full pipes. That must be down to personal preference. 🤔
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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Practicalities? Imagine a violin section where all but one are right handed. That left hander is going to cause some damage 😆
    This is very true. 😄

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    One of my favourite players from my childhood was left handed. Maybe I liked him because he was a rebel.

    Thinking this through... if you learn on the chanter, everyone should learn the same way, left hand on top, no?
    So the only issue for lefties becomes where they put the drones when they go on to the full pipes. That must be down to personal preference.
    It's far more comfortable to have the left hand on top if you have the bag under your left arm.

    If you have the bag under your left arm you have to stretch to put the left hand to the bottom of the chanter. Either that or you bend the chanter slightly under the bag to reach it easier (but you end up bending your left wrist) . Either way will limit dexterity.

    In addition, right handed people can't play pipes that are set up for a left handed person (ie. drones on the opposite shoulder). This can be a real disadvantage as it can take years for a learner to have enough experience to properly set up his/her instrument - so ordinarily it will be the teacher that does it for him/her. A right handed teacher won't be able to properly check left handed pipes.
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    Left-hander and footer here. Always worn my watch on the right wrist and find that dislocating my left arm can help when winding my watch.

    There's a bit of evidence re the 'it's the way you learn' theory about two-handed operations. Canadian ice hockey players have a majority who shoot left (60%). It's not because they are generally speaking. left-handed and there are one or two theories as to why. Americans tend to shoot right.

    It's interesting that some of the absolute elite footballers of all-time have been left-footed, including Maradona, Messi, Alfredo Di Stefano, Ference Puskas and Johan Cruyff. Many other among the 'greats' as well including Pauolo Maldini, Roberto Carlos, Raul, Gerson, Stoichkov, Rivellino, Hagi and Kempes. Not forgetting our own late, great Jim Baxter.

    I did a small-scale scientific study once to determine if righties were better with their left than lefties were with their right. Results (albeit on a small sample) seemed to indicate that for everyday basic tasks there was little difference. For more intricate tasks though the left-handers were better with their right hand than right-handers were with their left.
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    I'm a bit all over the place:

    Write with my left hand
    Right arm is stronger
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    Use a hammer with right hand; use a screwdriver with left hand

    Totally right footed.
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    Kingussie GC has the most left handed golfers in the world because they learn to play shinty when they're young.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba View Post
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    I'm a bit all over the place:

    Write with my left hand
    Right arm is stronger
    Cricket/tennis/darts - right hand
    Snooker - left hand
    Use a hammer with right hand; use a screwdriver with left hand

    Totally right footed.
    I'm almost exactly opposite. Can do most things with both hands. Left footed but trained myself to use both. Think I was probably left handed but tought to write with my right hand. Don't think I'd picked up a pencil before Primary school.

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    Is it true you can be right or left eared?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since90+2 View Post
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    Is it true you can be right or left eared?
    Well I have a hearing impairment in my left ear so Iím definitely right eared

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    Quote Originally Posted by overdrive View Post
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    Well I have a hearing impairment in my left ear so Iím definitely right eared
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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Davey Crocket's front one was wild.
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    Glasgow have the Coma Scale we have the Handedness Inventory.

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    Is it true you can be right or left eared?
    Dunno about ears but I am completely right handed and footed for everything... but left-eye dominant. I only know that due to being into darts!

    If Iím getting the lid off of a tight jar, the left hand is doing the turning of the lid, and the right the hodding of the jar. Donít know if thatís normal for right handers? Come to think of it I open juice bottles etc like that regardless of how tight they are. Seems strange..

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeeRussell View Post
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    If Iím getting the lid off of a tight jar, the left hand is doing the turning of the lid, and the right the hodding of the jar. Donít know if thatís normal for right handers? Come to think of it I open juice bottles etc like that regardless of how tight they are. Seems strange..
    Same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeeRussell View Post
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    Dunno about ears but I am completely right handed and footed for everything... but left-eye dominant. I only know that due to being into darts!

    If Iím getting the lid off of a tight jar, the left hand is doing the turning of the lid, and the right the hodding of the jar. Donít know if thatís normal for right handers? Come to think of it I open juice bottles etc like that regardless of how tight they are. Seems strange..
    I do it too.

    Thinking about it, the right hand is actually doing more of the work. It's providing the resistance, which often needs more strength, and the left hand does the easy bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EskbankHibby View Post
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    Glasgow have the Coma Scale we have the Handedness Inventory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    I do it too.

    Thinking about it, the right hand is actually doing more of the work. It's providing the resistance, which often needs more strength, and the left hand does the easy bit.

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    I wondered about that... and then we just get that used to it that we open the easy stuff (not requiring resistance) the same way out of habit?

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