https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaRGLdscYVY
Footy Adventures video from Friday - derby match between Breda and Willem II
Object on the pitch = players off for 15 minutes.
Further objects thrown = match abandoned and finished with no fans in attendance.
Would this work? Is it enough of a deterrent?
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17-04-2023 10:20 AM #1
A solution to the new trend of flares etc?
"...when Hibs won the Scottish Cup final and that celebration, Sunshine on Leith? I don’t think there’s a better football celebration ever in the game.”
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17-04-2023 10:25 AM #2
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Is it really such a problem? Lots of countries it seems to be common place at games without issue, not sure if I’m missing something though. It’s common indoors at European basketball games as well.
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17-04-2023 10:29 AM #3This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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17-04-2023 10:30 AM #4This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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17-04-2023 10:33 AM #5This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote"...when Hibs won the Scottish Cup final and that celebration, Sunshine on Leith? I don’t think there’s a better football celebration ever in the game.”
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17-04-2023 10:34 AM #6
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17-04-2023 10:44 AM #7This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Security/police need to be doing better before fans get into ground.
God forbid some lunatic got in with something more dangerous.
My grandson's jambo neighbour doubled up in the South on Saturday.
Got in free .He said its the third time he has managed that at ER .
Most of these, one day a week, security people are not really interested in getting into conflicts.
So turn a blind eye to the nonsense around them.
Police as usual are not re-active inside the ground .
Most are sat in vans along ER side streets waiting on something to happen.
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17-04-2023 10:48 AM #8
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I certainly wouldn’t be having a pop at drunk football fans for £9 an hour knowing what could potentially happen.
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17-04-2023 10:53 AM #9This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I get frustrated watching German football when a flare is chucked on when their own team is attacking. Where is the benefit to disrupting their own team's play?
Bams. Not rational people.
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17-04-2023 11:01 AM #10This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteThere is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.
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17-04-2023 11:05 AM #11
I quite like pyro albeit the double standards around how they are dealt with annoys me. Both my daughter and I have asthma (me mild, her more severe) and we haven't had any issues. Admittedly we can't speak for every asthmatic person and the quantity currently seen at Scottish football games is minimal compared to elsewhere, if that increased then who knows.
There should be a zero tolerance approach to bottles etc being launched into the park. There's really no excuse for it and little in the way of mitigation.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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17-04-2023 11:07 AM #12This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Am not suggesting they confront a drunk,either .You said that.
Is it only drunk people who cause bother at games ?
Most stewards are maybe in real need of the wages they get. Am not arguing about that.
But other than checking tickets and showing people their seat, tell me what else they are paid to do?
They surely must witness away fans doubling up at turntstiles.
They could tell a cop if its not their job to intervene or dont want to.
Maybe we should call them "ticket checkers" then and not "stadium security" And they obviously dont do that right either !
The criminal and anti social stuff should be dealt with by the polis.
And they fail miserably inside Easter Road on big matchdays.Last edited by Mick O'Rourke; 17-04-2023 at 11:16 AM.
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17-04-2023 11:21 AM #13
I've mentioned it before but when I went to see Houston Dynamo a few years ago they had a big oil drum type thing at the front of the section where their livelier fans congregated and they set the flares off in there.
Anyone whose breathing etc is affected would know to avoid that area and you still get much of the spectacle of the coloured smoke etc and along with their drums etc it looked and sounded great.
Not sure why we can't do something like that?
I guess the illicit nature of it is part of the appeal for those who let them off, and sanitising / legalising it might not stop them being hoyed around where they're not meant to be but it seemed an eminently sensible approach to me?
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17-04-2023 11:26 AM #14
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/m...-public-places
While there’s a difference between terrorism and folk throwing flares on the pitch I think the club and others are worried about the ramifications if someone was to be injured or died at Easter Road due to the behaviour of others
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17-04-2023 11:31 AM #15This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It is a worry .
I was alluding to something awful like that in my first reply on the thread.
Its getting far too easy to get in to the stadium with these objects,as well as ticketless fans gaining entry.Last edited by Mick O'Rourke; 17-04-2023 at 11:34 AM.
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17-04-2023 11:37 AM #16
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17-04-2023 11:41 AM #18This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Searching pensioners handbags,looking for quarter bottles of gin/vodka,while drug addled bampots get in with smoke bombs and flares !
Then block the WC at half timeLast edited by Mick O'Rourke; 17-04-2023 at 11:47 AM.
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17-04-2023 11:50 AM #19
The people who throw these objects really lack the maturity to make sensible decisions
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17-04-2023 12:06 PM #20
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Misleading thread title. Had my old flares out of the back of the wardrobe and was posing like a good'un until the Mrs put me right. Deja vous all over again.
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17-04-2023 12:24 PM #21This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The bigger issue is that without police being willing to intervene, stewards are powerless to actually do anything.
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17-04-2023 01:52 PM #22This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Think that’s why at lower catagagory games there none around the ground
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17-04-2023 06:47 PM #23
Flares add to an electric atmosphere, but it might be worth bearing in mind that people can get injured. If injuring an adult is not seen as a deterrent, then young children can, and have been, injured by flares as well.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/football-fan-9-left-needing-25836924
AFC Telford United have condemned a section of their fans and revealed a nine-year-old boy was left needing hospital treatment after several flares were set off during a non-league game.
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Thats a point. You'd really struggle to get through two at a time if there was somebody actually manning the turnstile."...when Hibs won the Scottish Cup final and that celebration, Sunshine on Leith? I don’t think there’s a better football celebration ever in the game.”
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18-04-2023 12:27 PM #25
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18-04-2023 09:48 PM #26
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19-04-2023 08:04 AM #29
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I quite like pyros etc.
At matches abroad they are very common but here’s the real issue….. the relationship we have with alcohol.
Getting pissed and add in flares is a bad combo. There is not the severe alcohol element at matches across Europe that’s why they allow bevvy in the stadium.
People need to own their own problem. It’s not really necessary to be blind drunk at the Fitba is it?
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19-04-2023 09:59 AM #30
Stopped taking my flares to games in the late 70s went out of fashion😁
Hopefully the current trend will go the same way.Full body searches would be required. Have also witnessed people smuggling booze into games, you would have to have police rather than G4S security at the turnstiles.
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