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  1. 25-02-2023 01:01 PM #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by McSwanky View Post
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    I'd argue that Messi has worked extremely hard over the years. O'Sullivan too (on and off, probably worked harder on the mental side as that's his main weakness).

    Talent alone doesn't cut it at the very top level of any sport these days.

    Murray is incredibly talented, but also had to work stupidly hard to get anywhere near competing with Nadal, Djokovic and Federer. I'd put him as my top Scottish sportsman ever by a distance, but I guess those things are subjective.



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    Yep I hear what you’re saying, but messi hasn’t had to work AS hard as Ronaldo would have to keep up with him, if you get me. As you say, all subjective


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  2. 25-02-2023 01:13 PM #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErinGoBraghHFC View Post
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    Yep I hear what you’re saying, but messi hasn’t had to work AS hard as Ronaldo would have to keep up with him, if you get me. As you say, all subjective


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    That can't be measured, but I wouldn't be surprised if Messi worked just as hard over the years on technique, fitness etc.

    Riordan is a good example at our level for instance. I think most would say he was one of the first talents we've seen at the club in the last few decades, but it's also well known that he spent extra hours after training practising free kicks etc. I see that work ethic as part of his talent.

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  3. 25-02-2023 01:24 PM #93
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    Jocky Wilson must have a shout.
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  4. 25-02-2023 01:24 PM #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErinGoBraghHFC View Post
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    No chance, best tennis player ever but not sportsman


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    A kid from Dunblane who became the world's No 1 tennis player, along the way being the first British man to win a major in nearly 80 years? Extraordinary and puts him in the frame to be the greatest ever British sportsman, let alone Scottish.
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  5. 25-02-2023 03:42 PM #95
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    That last game was ridiculous, how he got the last 2 serves from Medvedev even back in the court was unbelievable

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  6. 25-02-2023 04:04 PM #96
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    Medvedev just too good sadly.

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  7. 26-02-2023 10:11 AM #97
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    Medvedev just too good sadly.

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    Pity, but a terrific tournament for Andy nonetheless.
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  8. 27-02-2023 01:43 PM #98
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    Rio Open: Cameron Norrie wins fifth ATP title with thrilling victory over Carlos Alcaraz - BBC Sport

    Fine effort by Norrie.
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  9. 07-05-2023 06:19 PM #99
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/65519683

    Andy Murray wins his first title since 2019. Up to 42 in the world rankings. He'll never hit the heights of his golden years but he'll feel he's proved the hip op was worthwhile I reckon.
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  10. 07-05-2023 06:58 PM #100
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/65519683

    Andy Murray wins his first title since 2019. Up to 42 in the world rankings. He'll never hit the heights of his golden years but he'll feel he's proved the hip op was worthwhile I reckon.
    Superb win for the big man. Hopefully has a great French open
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  11. 08-05-2023 07:56 AM #101
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    The important thing is Andy's win was on clay. That'll give him a tremendous boost.
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    No tennis updates since SDG gave up posting but watching Alcaraz dismantle Tsitsipas is worth a mention.

    Tsitsipas is no mug but he can't get anywhere close in this game. Alcaraz will win this in straight sets - unless his form falls off an almighty cliff - and it will be Djokovic next in the semi final.
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    Murray one set up and 3-1 in the second in the final at Surbiton Rain has stopped play at the moment
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    Comfortable 6-3 , 6-2 victory for Murray
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    Comfortable 6-3 , 6-2 victory for Murray
    Well done Andy. Class act.
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  16. 11-06-2023 07:16 PM #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by davy67 + View Post
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    Comfortable 6-3 , 6-2 victory for Murray
    Go Andy ! . The guy just defies logic !
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    Back to back title wins for Andy with victory in today's Nottingham final 👏
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    Back to back title wins for Andy with victory in today's Nottingham final 👏
    Onwards to Queens
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  19. 18-06-2023 05:03 PM #109
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    The two titles he won in the last fortnight were on the Challenger Tour. Brilliant that he won them but Queens will be a level up
    He has had a great start to the grasscourt season. It should give him a bit of an advantage at Queens. Looking forward to seeing how far he can go
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  20. 20-06-2023 07:02 PM #110
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    Gubbed by De Minaur at Queen's. Really disappointing.
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    Love him or loathe him Nick Kyrgios is a big miss at Wimbledon this year.

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  22. 04-07-2023 01:51 PM #112
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    Love him or loathe him Nick Kyrgios is a big miss at Wimbledon this year.

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    Agree. Extremely talented and very watchable.
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