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    Andy Murray 2021

    Just beaten Robin Haase in 3 sets in Rotterdam . I didn`t see first set which he lost 2 - 6 but in terms of movement and attitude he looked much better than the last time I saw him in Roland Garros . Played 5 matches in Challenger in Italy , 1 in Montpellier last week and now at least 2 this week in Rotterdam so getting competitive matches in which is what he needs . In terms of Grand Slams I can`t see him doing anything this year but if he can keep motivated in ATP 250s ( this week is 500 so a lot of ranking points at stake ) he should climb rankings soon who knows what could happen in 2022 . Him and Federer have been out for a long time and both are well into 30s but their past success has been down to talent but also attitude and ambition so think at least one of the 2 will challenge in some Grand Slams in 2021 or 2022 .


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    Just beaten Robin Haase in 3 sets in Rotterdam . I didn`t see first set which he lost 2 - 6 but in terms of movement and attitude he looked much better than the last time I saw him in Roland Garros . Played 5 matches in Challenger in Italy , 1 in Montpellier last week and now at least 2 this week in Rotterdam so getting competitive matches in which is what he needs . In terms of Grand Slams I can`t see him doing anything this year but if he can keep motivated in ATP 250s ( this week is 500 so a lot of ranking points at stake ) he should climb rankings soon who knows what could happen in 2022 . Him and Federer have been out for a long time and both are well into 30s but their past success has been down to talent but also attitude and ambition so think at least one of the 2 will challenge in some Grand Slams in 2021 or 2022 .
    It's great to see Murray back competing again after what he's gone through over the last two years. He's clearly got a lot of natural ability which will see him through a lot of his matches but I'm not sure we'll see him back competing for Grand Slams again.

    He'll be 34 in two months' time and whilst Nadal and Djokovic are winning slams neither of them have gone through what Murray has.

    I'd also love to think Federer will be able to compete for a Grand Slam again but considering he will be 40 later this year I'd say that's unlikely.

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    It's great to see Murray back competing again after what he's gone through over the last two years. He's clearly got a lot of natural ability which will see him through a lot of his matches but I'm not sure we'll see him back competing for Grand Slams again.

    He'll be 34 in two months' time and whilst Nadal and Djokovic are winning slams neither of them have gone through what Murray has.

    I'd also love to think Federer will be able to compete for a Grand Slam again but considering he will be 40 later this year I'd say that's unlikely.
    Well done Andy. I still think that for the sake of his long-term health he should consider focusing on doubles. A swansong couple of years with Jamie would be hugely popular. However, that's obviously not what he's prepared to settle for.

    Nadal has had years of knee problems and was at a low ebb for a long time. He looked close to being finished in fact (and there's been some well publicised controversy around quite how he managed to overcome those problems).

    It's really just Djokovic who has benefited from an injury-free career but then he's more automaton than human. Federer, Nadal and Murray are wonderful tennis players to watch (aesthetically Federer is in a class of his own) but I never watch Djokovic. Mr anti-tennis whose mind-numbing, grinding tactics I saw described as 'the world's widest squash court wall'. I'm biased, but at his best I think Andy has the most natural ability/invention of them all.

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    Murray loses in round two of the Rotterdam tournament 7-5 6-2 to Andrey Rublev.

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    Rublev won tournament . Not sure what is Murray`s next tournament . Not Marselles this week so maybe Miami 1000 . As for GBY`s idea of Andy concentrating on doubles it`s something I`ve wondered about too though I can`t think of any other player who`s done the same so late in his / her career and his brother is a doubles specialist who`d probably want to be 100% sure it was being taken seriously .(sure it would be given how competitive Andy is ) . There are a few English doubles specialists (Salisbury , Skipski brothers ..) who have been doing well so doubt Andy would get in GB team for Olympics or Davis Cup in singles or doubles unless his results improve dramatically in coming months .

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    Rublev won tournament . Not sure what is Murray`s next tournament . Not Marselles this week so maybe Miami 1000 . As for GBY`s idea of Andy concentrating on doubles it`s something I`ve wondered about too though I can`t think of any other player who`s done the same so late in his / her career and his brother is a doubles specialist who`d probably want to be 100% sure it was being taken seriously .(sure it would be given how competitive Andy is ) . There are a few English doubles specialists (Salisbury , Skipski brothers ..) who have been doing well so doubt Andy would get in GB team for Olympics or Davis Cup in singles or doubles unless his results improve dramatically in coming months .
    I think he's hoping to play in Dubai next week.

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    If he never hits another ball, for me he's been the greatest Scottish, possibly British sportsman ever.

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    If he never hits another ball, for me he's been the greatest Scottish, possibly British sportsman ever.
    Now there's a debate.

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    Now there's a debate.
    Which I won't enter into..😀

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangkok Hibby View Post
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    If he never hits another ball, for me he's been the greatest Scottish, possibly British sportsman ever.
    Agreed.

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    If he never hits another ball, for me he's been the greatest Scottish, possibly British sportsman ever.
    He's definitely up there.

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    In another final after coming from a set down to win 2-1 in Sydney.

    United we stand here....

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    In another final after coming from a set down to win 2-1 in Sydney.
    Hats off to the man, what he's achieved given his ops and age is quite amazing.

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    In another final after coming from a set down to win 2-1 in Sydney.
    Terrific stuff from Andy. I still feel he's bitten off more than he can chew by attempting to get back to the top after the sort of operation he had but I guess somebody as competitive as him simply doesn't have it in him to down tools. Personally I'd like to have seen him team up with Jamie on the doubles circuit but I can't knock what he's still managing to achieve in the singles with an artificial hip.

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    Terrific stuff from Andy. I still feel he's bitten off more than he can chew by attempting to get back to the top after the sort of operation he had but I guess somebody as competitive as him simply doesn't have it in him to down tools. Personally I'd like to have seen him team up with Jamie on the doubles circuit but I can't knock what he's still managing to achieve in the singles with an artificial hip.
    It's absolutely incredible.

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    Final will be shown by the BBC tomorrow on the iPlayer, BBC website and red button from 8am.

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    Anyone else not getting it on the iPlayer?

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    Anyone else not getting it on the iPlayer?
    It's been delayed until at least 8:35 so I wasn't getting anything on the red button either except an error. If you have Virgin/Sky you can either go through channel 991 or 981 respectively which just has a holding graphic at the moment.

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    Ladies final is still on although they are near the end of the final set so Murray will probably not be on much before 9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir David Gray View Post
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    It's been delayed until at least 8:35 so I wasn't getting anything on the red button either except an error. If you have Virgin/Sky you can either go through channel 991 or 981 respectively which just has a holding graphic at the moment.
    Thanks SDG! Got the graphic up now too. Hopefully I’ll be able to see it all before I leave for my golf!!

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    Thanks SDG! Got the graphic up now too. Hopefully I’ll be able to see it all before I leave for my golf!!
    I've got a meeting at 9 so looks like I'll need to record it and try and avoid the score and watch it later on! 🙄

    Thought I may have got the first hour.

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    Difficult start. The Russian seems to have a brilliant return of serve and knows to move Andy around. Will take a big effort to win this I think.


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    This guy seems to be on peak form at the right time. Andy can’t seem to find an answer. Looking fairly straight forward at present at 6-3 3-0.


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    I see there’s a few hibs fans in the crowd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CallumLaidlaw View Post
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    Difficult start. The Russian seems to have a brilliant return of serve and knows to move Andy around. Will take a big effort to win this I think.


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    He said himself it was a step up this one People need to be realistic
    It’s not the old Andy Murray Getting to the Final in itself was an achievement


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    Where's Karatsev been hiding? Top player.
    Andy should retire this year before he gets totally crocked. Love the guy.

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    Just finished watching it on record - managed to avoid any updates which I was impressed with!

    Not much of a contest sadly, Karatsev far too good.

    Murray will struggle to compete with anyone at that level now sadly but hopefully he can win a few matches at the Australian Open.

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    Where's Karatsev been hiding? Top player.
    Andy should retire this year before he gets totally crocked. Love the guy.
    He reached the semis of the Australian Open last year but other than that has never really done much at the top level. Prior to that tournament he hadn't even ever been in the top 100.

    At 28 he's unlikely to have too many more opportunities to win a big tournament. With the possible absence of Djokovic at the Australian Open this could be his chance.

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    Murray and Ivan Lendl to formally reunite in preparation for the grass court season.

    The 2 of the just seem to work but it seems like it's last chance saloon fro Murray if he wants to be competitive again.
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