Maggenis

[easty]

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I don't think we can say at this stage whether he's been a good or a poor signing.

Hibs will be disappointed that he hasn't had a run of games but I don't think either the club nor the player would be disappointed in how he's played when he has had time on the pitch.

They'll know exactly where is fitness is, and will have set their expectations accordingly. Disappointment would have come if they'd expected him to be terrific right from the word go and the reality was much different.

My thoughts are that they'll have an idea of what he was reasonably capable of and based their expectations on that.

I think both Hibs and the player will both be disappointed with how he’s played when he’s been on the pitch.

[scoopyboy]

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How are they 2 different things? His contribution/appearances have been poor and therefore, at this point it’s been a poor signing.

Maybe this time next year we’ll see what he offers but to date, it’s minimal at best.

I will tell you what's two different things, his contributions and his appearances.

His number of appearances is a disappointment.

His contribution when he's played has been ok, nothing special but not hopeless by any manner.

[jeffers]

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We've signed him on a long contract.

What you are talking about is his form or contribution so far. That is different to whether he is a good signing or not.

There's far more to judging the value of a signing than form, particularly when he has been injured. We are buying his potential, the fact that other teams can't now sign him etc.

I don't think anyone is arguing that he hasn't really contributed, that doesn't mean you have to equate it to a bad signing.

Surely all that matters is a players form or contribution ? Potential is pointless unless there is a product on the pitch. Based on this season it’s hard to argue he has been anything other than a bad signing. Hopefully moving forward that viewpoint will change though.

[easty]

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We've signed him on a long contract.

What you are talking about is his form or contribution so far. That is different to whether he is a good signing or not.

There's far more to judging the value of a signing than form, particularly when he has been injured. We are buying his potential, the fact that other teams can't now sign him etc.

I don't think anyone is arguing that he hasn't really contributed, that doesn't mean you have to equate it to a bad signing.

I assume you’re not judging Drey Wright as a poor signing, up to this point, either then? Seeing as we signed him for 2 years, and he’d had a long term injury in the not too distant past as well. We shouldn’t judge him til next season?

Wrights played 22 times, Magennis 15. Should they be judged differently?

[hibbysam]

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I assume you’re not judging Drey Wright as a poor signing, up to this point, either then? Seeing as we signed him for 2 years, and he’d had a long term injury in the not too distant past as well. We shouldn’t judge him til next season?

Wrights played 22 times, Magennis 15. Should they be judged differently?

Instead of labelling players just let them play. If Magennis leaves us for nothing after 4 years because he’s produced nothing then he’ll have been a poor signing. If he goes onto be successful and either produces for us or makes us plenty money then he’ll be a huge success.

[easty]

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Instead of labelling players just let them play. If Magennis leaves us for nothing after 4 years because he’s produced nothing then he’ll have been a poor signing. If he goes onto be successful and either produces for us or makes us plenty money then he’ll be a huge success.

I wouldn’t really say I’m labelling anyone.

Are you one of the few football fans in the world who never say anything negative about a player? Or is it just about Magennis that we shouldn’t have an opinion?

Look at Van De Beek at Man Utd for a comparison, he’s been a poor signing for Man Utd. It’s not his fault, I’m not saying he’s **** and will never be good enough. I’m just pointing out that he’s not been a good signing. The same as I am with Magennis.

I don’t really understand why that’s in any way controversial? We paid money for a player (we don’t do that particularly often) who hasn’t performed well. Regardless of the reason, it’s been a poor signing so far.

[blackpoolhibs]

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I wouldn’t really say I’m labelling anyone.

Are you one of the few football fans in the world who never say anything negative about a player? Or is it just about Magennis that we shouldn’t have an opinion?

Look at Van De Beek at Man Utd for a comparison, he’s been a poor signing for Man Utd. It’s not his fault, I’m not saying he’s **** and will never be good enough. I’m just pointing out that he’s not been a good signing. The same as I am with Magennis.

I don’t really understand why that’s in any way controversial? We paid money for a player (we don’t do that particularly often) who hasn’t performed well. Regardless of the reason, it’s been a poor signing so far.

We actually do these days.

[Brightside]

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I wouldn’t really say I’m labelling anyone.

Are you one of the few football fans in the world who never say anything negative about a player? Or is it just about Magennis that we shouldn’t have an opinion?

Look at Van De Beek at Man Utd for a comparison, he’s been a poor signing for Man Utd. It’s not his fault, I’m not saying he’s **** and will never be good enough. I’m just pointing out that he’s not been a good signing. The same as I am with Magennis.

I don’t really understand why that’s in any way controversial? We paid money for a player (we don’t do that particularly often) who hasn’t performed well. Regardless of the reason, it’s been a poor signing so far.

He hasn't performed well? If Al Pacino gets sick and doesn't star in the Godfather films will that go down as a poor performance? Give the boy a change to perform and then lets judge eh.

[hibbysam]

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I wouldn’t really say I’m labelling anyone.

Are you one of the few football fans in the world who never say anything negative about a player? Or is it just about Magennis that we shouldn’t have an opinion?

Look at Van De Beek at Man Utd for a comparison, he’s been a poor signing for Man Utd. It’s not his fault, I’m not saying he’s **** and will never be good enough. I’m just pointing out that he’s not been a good signing. The same as I am with Magennis.

I don’t really understand why that’s in any way controversial? We paid money for a player (we don’t do that particularly often) who hasn’t performed well. Regardless of the reason, it’s been a poor signing so far.

There’s no need to be negative about him. He’s not been *****, he’s shown enough in his career to be optimistic once injuries are a thing of the past that he’ll be a very good player and therefore a very good signing.

[easty]

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He hasn't performed well? If Al Pacino gets sick and doesn't star in the Godfather films will that go down as a poor performance? Give the boy a change to perform and then lets judge eh.

If Al Pacino was signed up to star in the films then got sick and didn’t contribute, and they made the films without Michael Corleone, but Pacino was still paid...then yeah I’d say it was a poor signing.

[Brightside]

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If Al Pacino was signed up to star in the films then got sick and didn’t contribute, and they made the films without Michael Corleone, but Pacino was still paid...then yeah I’d say it was a poor signing.

But you were talking about his performance. He hasn't performed yet - so once he does that then we can judge him.

[easty]

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But you were talking about his performance. He hasn't performed yet - so once he does that then we can judge him.

He’s played in 15 games, not particularly well.

I’m judging him now, based on his contribution to the team. Dunno how many times I have to say it?

[Fergus52]

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I assume you’re not judging Drey Wright as a poor signing, up to this point, either then? Seeing as we signed him for 2 years, and he’d had a long term injury in the not too distant past as well. We shouldn’t judge him til next season?

Wrights played 22 times, Magennis 15. Should they be judged differently?

Those stats on appearances are out of context, Wright has more than double the amount of minutes played than Magennis.

Magennis has only played 400 minutes of football for us, most of which has been off the bench, unlike Wright who has started plenty of games.

IMO, they can and should be judged differently as Wright has played much more football for us, and has been been fit for selection almost the whole season, whereas Magennis has had two separate injuries that each kept him out for several weeks after recovering from his cruciate ligament and now has COVID.

[Fergus52]

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He’s played in 15 games, not particularly well.

I’m judging him now, based on his contribution to the team. Dunno how many times I have to say it?

How many starts has he had in the league, 2?

I don't think he played particularly poorly in either of them from what I remember.

If you're confident enough to be able to properly judge a player based on 10 minute cameo sub appearances then fair enough, but I know I'm certainly not.

[MWHIBBIES]

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How many starts has he had in the league, 2?

I don't think he played particularly poorly in either of them from what I remember.

If you're confident enough to be able to properly judge a player based on 10 minute cameo sub appearances then fair enough, but I know I'm certainly not.

Ross county and dundee united IRCC. Scored in 1, hit the post in the other.

[Brightside]

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Ross county and dundee united IRCC. Scored in 1, hit the post in the other.

Sell him.

[easty]

If it’ll stop folk greeting then I’ll change my mind. He’s actually been a great signing, and money well spent based on what we’ve got out of him.

[Brightside]

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If it’ll stop folk greeting then I’ll change my mind. He’s actually been a great signing, and money well spent based on what we’ve got out of him.

Good lad.

[The Modfather]

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He hasn't performed well? If Al Pacino gets sick and doesn't star in the Godfather films will that go down as a poor performance? Give the boy a change to perform and then lets judge eh.

Hoo-ah!

[calumhibee1]

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He’s played in 15 games, not particularly well.

I’m judging him now, based on his contribution to the team. Dunno how many times I have to say it?

[hibeejeebies]

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Hoo-ah!

Hibs are signing Al Pacino? 😯

[Lancs Harp]

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Hibs are signing Al Pacino? 😯

Al would stiffen up that midfield.

[Eyrie]

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Hibs are signing Al Pacino? 😯

Sounds good to me.

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Al would stiffen up that midfield.

I've changed my mind. We've got enough midfielders as it is.

[Lancs Harp]

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Sounds good to me.


I've changed my mind. We've got enough midfielders as it is.

Good luck to Jack with that one. Telling Al Pacino we don't want him.

[Eyrie]

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Good luck to Jack with that one. Telling Al Pacino we don't want him.

[3pm]

The Paisley Pacino.

[lord bunberry]

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The Paisley Pacino.

Sparface

[Brooster]

Some dreadful comments on here. He's coming back from a bad injury, picked up new niggles and contracted covid. Give the lad the support he needs. He's not had a decent run in the side for umpteen reasons but has looked decent from what I've seen. There's more to come so let's get behind him.

[Robbo6-2]

Serious question but where is he going to play when he does get fit?

I thought he was a centre mid but played the majority out wide for us.

With Irvine, Newell and Gogic hes 4th choice imo. That's what surprises me the most, the fact we spent money on him and I dont think hes any better than what we have.

[calumhibee1]

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Some dreadful comments on here. He's coming back from a bad injury, picked up new niggles and contracted covid. Give the lad the support he needs. He's not had a decent run in the side for umpteen reasons but has looked decent from what I've seen. There's more to come so let's get behind him.

Dreadful. Lol

For all the talk of bounce games, fitness etc, this is what Magennis said when he joined -

“I’ve played 45-minutes with the young boys at St Mirren and am feeling fit. I have been fully training for three or four weeks and I’ll be ready if the gaffer wants to put me in.

“It’s been very difficult having to rehab an ACL but I have done a good job and I am sure that I’m fit.”

Seems he certainly didn’t consider himself nearly as far off it as some on here would have you believe, and that’s before he got an hour as a sub over two games and 60 minutes as a starter twice within 2 weeks of signing.