Don’t think Magennis is really to blame for the lack of impact. It’s not his fault he was coming back from a bad injury, not his fault he has had other niggles and not his fault he caught COVID. He probably couldn’t believe his luck when he was getting offered the security of a five year deal having been out injured for so long though.
I did find his signing a bit strange at the time. We’d obviously been in for McCrorie, missed him and then moved on to Magennis is a totally different type of player. And you had the injury situation as well. When he was getting played out on the left it felt, to me, that we were just trying to get him in to the team rather than having signed him for any particular purpose.
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28-02-2021 07:54 PM #31
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28-02-2021 08:16 PM #32This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If he’s as good as people claim he is then he’d be forcing the manager to give him game time. He’s made 14 appearances. That’s 14 games where he’s been deemed fit enough to get on the pitch. Instead of making a claim for a starting slot he makes it very easy for the manager to only give him less than 45 mins and never give him 90 mins. He’s been a huge disappointment so far.
The same excuses have been getting trotted out for Drey Wright who returned from his serious injury in mid 2019!Last edited by calumhibee1; 28-02-2021 at 08:19 PM.
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28-02-2021 08:24 PM #33
off topic a tad but where is this other McGinn brother we signed from st.mirren, what's going on
injured ? or what
asking for a friend
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28-02-2021 08:28 PM #34This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Oh I think he’s definitely got something. Unfortunately he’s not been fit enough to show us more than glimpses of his ability so far.
I’m still hoping he’s going to be a big player for us, and the closest we’ve had to SJM since SJM himself.
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28-02-2021 08:29 PM #35This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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28-02-2021 08:33 PM #36
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Huge gamble to pay and hand out the length of contract for a player coming back from such a serious injury.
Hes looked poor apart from 45mins vs Dundee Utd.
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28-02-2021 08:34 PM #37This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Couple all of that with the fact that in the main we’ve won the majority of our games then it’s always going to be difficult for players to work there way into our side who have been out.
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28-02-2021 08:36 PM #38This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Last edited by calumhibee1; 28-02-2021 at 08:41 PM.
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28-02-2021 08:40 PM #39This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
A player coming back from that length of time out would normally play a number of friendlies/reserve games slowly building up to full match fitness, Magennis never had that luxury and had to use the league cup games against very physical lower league sides on plastic pitches.
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28-02-2021 08:41 PM #40This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Billy Whizz mentioned that he was doing scouting work for JR which may or may not be true.
His contract expires in 3 months and can't see him getting another playing contract.
Only 32 so maybe not ready to stop playing.
Next destination?Last edited by CMurdoch; 28-02-2021 at 09:04 PM.
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28-02-2021 08:51 PM #41This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Newell has missed a few games - there’ll rightly be no excuses about getting back up to speed made for him.
For the faith we’ve shown in Magennis with the contract we’ve offered he’s been very disappointing, whether that’s being injured frequently or his performances. Hibs will have signed him expecting him to contribute this season. We signed him and played him 2 days later, there’s no way we signed him expecting him to offer next to nothing for the majority of a season when he signed ready to play.
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28-02-2021 08:56 PM #42This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
ta for that that is indeed an odd one
according to ihibs he's played 9 and scored one goal, i can only remember him playing one game and he wasn't even very good in that :( oh well
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28-02-2021 09:00 PM #43This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
‘He’s had 14 appearances to get up to speed’ - one of those was 1 minute, one of those was 8 minutes, the majority were 20-30 minutes. He’s played a grand total of 440 minutes which is less than 5 full games, after missing 8 months, 1 month and 1 month with no pre season. Your expectations are so far from reality. Thankfully we’ve a medical and sports science team that will understand his injuries and his fitness far better than Calum on .net.
When he signed the club would’ve wanted more this year, however they’d also have expected we’d be able to play bounce games to help our situation out with recovering from injuries, and we wouldn’t have thought he’d be quite so unlucky with the injuries he has had.Last edited by hibbysam; 28-02-2021 at 09:10 PM.
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28-02-2021 09:09 PM #44This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I honestly don’t understand why some people are so unwilling to cut anyone some slack. Magennis’ time at Hibs has been stop start through injury and illness, players need games to hit their peak, he’s not had that yet but he’ll get there.Follow the Hibs podcast, Longbangers, on Twitter (@longbangers)
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28-02-2021 09:11 PM #45This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If he played 2 days after he signed I’d suggest he had been doing a considerable amount of rehab and been back in full training for a good while - do you really think he wasn’t ready to play, coming back from a serious injury yet Hibs decided to play him anyway, against Brora Rangers who we wouldn’t have needed him against and risked someone who we’ve invested so much in getting another serious injury?
He was deemed by Hibs and JR as being more than fit enough to get on the pitch and contribute, something which he’s not done nearly enough of - whether that’s not being on the pitch which is out of his hands, or contributing on the pitch which is absolutely in his hands.
Ask yourself why he’s only been put on for 1 minute or 8 minutes in some of these games. Was it to get his fitness up? Of course it wasn’t - 1 minute or 8 minutes isn’t going to do that. If he had shown more than he has then he would have got more than one minute or 8 minutes or 20 minutes. Using his injury which he’s been back from for 5 months as the sole excuse for the fact he’s offered so little far is what is so far from reality.
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28-02-2021 09:15 PM #46This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
He would’ve been fit, but being fit and match fit couldn’t be further apart. He needed games, his minutes were building then he got injured for a month. Same again and then injured for a month.
He got 1 minute and 8 minutes because we were winning and it was to run the clock down. He wasn’t fit enough to start and the team were on winning runs. It’s not rocket science.
He’s been injured three times and been out with Covid, he’s not been injury free for 5 months. He’s made appearances to build fitness in between injuries before breaking down and having to start again. Reality.
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28-02-2021 09:21 PM #47
jackson irvine played just days after signing and after being out of competitive football for several months, i was majorly surprised to say the least i always thought their was a big difference between being fit and match fit, i've no idea if he had been playing bounce games for another club right enough
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28-02-2021 09:21 PM #48This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
He got 8 minutes after starting the week before - a game in which he was poor. He didn’t get 8 minutes because he wasn’t fit enough to start as he was fit enough to start the week before.
He got 1 minute after coming off the bench for decent lengths of time the 2 games previous. Again, he didn’t get 1 minute because he wasn’t fit enough to start. He got 1 minute and 8 minutes in these games because he hasn’t shown nearly enough to justify much more than that so far. That’s the reality.Last edited by calumhibee1; 28-02-2021 at 09:24 PM.
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28-02-2021 09:30 PM #49This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
If you wanted him to return to play 90 minutes week after week after 8 months out then fair enough, you’ll be disappointed more often than not. Thankfully he’ll be managed back to full fitness and especially now when he’s suffering from Covid symptoms. The season wasn’t planned to be a write off but the way it has gone for him with injuries it’s ended up that way. He’ll still be a huge player for us for years to come and has shown plenty to prove that over his career to date.
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28-02-2021 09:37 PM #50This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Nobody on this thread has suggested he was to play 90 minutes every single game from the off either, regardless of how many times you suggest it.
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28-02-2021 09:43 PM #51This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Scott Allan came on for a good period against st Johnstone and has barely been seen since. He’s fit enough, he just can’t get games, when he does come on he’s ineffective as he’s off the pace. It’s the same situation.
Players need games to get up to speed but when your in the middle of a season and fighting for 3rd place, we don’t have that luxury to give them.
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28-02-2021 09:48 PM #52This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You’re tying yourself in knots here trying to desperately defend what is a fairly innocuous point that some folk have made - that his Hibs career to date has been a real disappointment - both performances on the pitch and injuries/COVID. I would be surprised if he wouldn’t acknowledge that himself.
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28-02-2021 09:53 PM #53This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
He’ll be extremely disappointed that his injuries have destroyed his first season in a Hibs shirt. His ability is unquestionable however. I’m glad we forked out for him and look forward to his career in a Hibs top.
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Future captain and star in the making, I predict a great career for the lad.
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Last edited by calumhibee1; 01-03-2021 at 06:54 AM.
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01-03-2021 06:56 AM #59This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Him getting injured is no different from Scott Allan. Its unlucky and could happen to anyone. He deserves our support, not being labed a disappointment. Just my opinion, though.
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01-03-2021 06:57 AM #60
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He has been signed long term after we’ve also been after him for years.
We knew he was coming off a bad injury. I’m sure we had hoped we could have built his fitness back up and got him back playing more regularly.
As it turned out he has picked up other little niggles, which happens, and now Covid.
We might have hoped he would have been playing more of a part but I’m sure we also knew that these things happen after big injuries. He is a long term signing and will become a good player for us.
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