Maggenis

***lord bunberry*** · 28-02-2021 02:28 PM

He’s almost become the forgotten man. Does anyone think he’ll have any impact during the run in or would he be better writing this season off and be fit and ready for the start of next season? He’s had a really bad run of things so far with us, hopefully he’ll come good.

**~~calumhibee1~~** · 28-02-2021 02:32 PM

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He’s almost become the forgotten man. Does anyone think he’ll have any impact during the run in or would he be better writing this season off and be fit and ready for the start of next season? He’s had a really bad run of things so far with us, hopefully he’ll come good.

I can’t see him offering anything of note this season.

He’s been a huge disappointment so far. Even when he’s been available he’s looked nothing to write home about.

Hopefully a good pre season and he can offer something next season as he really needs to bring more to the table - like you said, I’d actually forgot he even played for us recently.

***lord bunberry*** · 28-02-2021 02:34 PM

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I can’t see him offering anything of note this season.

He’s been a huge disappointment so far. Even when he’s been available he’s looked nothing to write home about.

Aye, I wouldn’t say he’s done anything wrong, but he’s not stood out either. I think that’s probably down to fitness more than any lack of ability or desire.

***Dalianwanda*** · 28-02-2021 02:38 PM

I think we are being patient with him after his injury & hope to see him coming into the team properly next year. Seen little flashes of what he can do but I dont think its fair to put any sort of judgment on him yet. Ive high hopes for him.

***J-C*** · 28-02-2021 02:41 PM

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Aye, I wouldn’t say he’s done anything wrong, but he’s not stood out either. I think that’s probably down to fitness more than any lack of ability or desire.

Unfortunately there's no reserve league for him to get games, just the very odd behind doors games, he missed all of pre season and it's shown.

***lord bunberry*** · 28-02-2021 02:47 PM

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Unfortunately there's no reserve league for him to get games, just the very odd behind doors games, he missed all of pre season and it's shown.

That’s definitely a problem for him, it’s the same for Allan.

**Centre Hawf** · 28-02-2021 02:36 PM

I hold out hope for the guy as a player. Clearly has something about him to be St Mirren captain so young and be chased by Hibs to be worth paying for.

But at this point in time I'd almost be happy to say to him the season is finished for him and we're going to focus on getting his body in a shape that won't break down every 2nd or 3rd week with a niggle connected to X or Y. If that requires a wee surgery or seeing a specialist etc then so be it. But whatever is happening at the moment is clearly not setting him up for a long spell in the side.

**B.H.F.C** · 28-02-2021 02:39 PM

This season is definitely a write off for him.

Been a bit unlucky to pick up some niggles but there was always going to be a risk of that when you’re signing someone coming back from a cruciate injury. A proper pre season and, hopefully, he’s good to go next season.

***matty_f*** · 28-02-2021 02:42 PM

I think he'll be glad to see the back of this season, but I'd like to see him get a couple of games under his belt before the season's out. He's an excellent prospect, one that we were absolutely right to sign on a long contract. Get a full pre-season into him and I think we'll be impressed next season when he's up and running properly.

**Hibee Mac** · 28-02-2021 02:45 PM

I'm yet to see any of these flashes of what he might be. I think back to players like McGeouch who broke down every 2nd game but is was clear as day what he brought to the team when he was in it, not seen that with Magennis yet unfortunately.

I'm holding out hope that next season we will see him shine but he probably doesn't have too long next season to prove himself before he starts too look like a duff signing to most Hibs fans I'd say.

***jacomo*** · 28-02-2021 08:28 PM

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I'm yet to see any of these flashes of what he might be. I think back to players like McGeouch who broke down every 2nd game but is was clear as day what he brought to the team when he was in it, not seen that with Magennis yet unfortunately.

I'm holding out hope that next season we will see him shine but he probably doesn't have too long next season to prove himself before he starts too look like a duff signing to most Hibs fans I'd say.

Oh I think he’s definitely got something. Unfortunately he’s not been fit enough to show us more than glimpses of his ability so far.

I’m still hoping he’s going to be a big player for us, and the closest we’ve had to SJM since SJM himself.

**we are hibs** · 28-02-2021 02:47 PM

Everytime i have seen him hes been out wide, i thought he had been signed as a centre mid.

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***Hiber-nation*** · 28-02-2021 02:57 PM

Some players take a while to get going after injuries, definitely wouldn't write him off yet although he's shown nothing so far.

**1620** · 28-02-2021 03:03 PM

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Some players take a while to get going after injuries, definitely wouldn't write him off yet although he's shown nothing so far.

Just highlights the risk of signing injured players. His wage this season could have been put to better use as it turns out by signing another striker.

***Cat Stanton*** · 28-02-2021 03:06 PM

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Just highlights the risk of signing injured players. His wage this season could have been put to better use as it turns out by signing another striker.

Think he'll come good. Very, very highly rated at St. Mirren. Saints pal always raving about him.

**1620** · 28-02-2021 05:41 PM

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Think he'll come good. Very, very highly rated at St. Mirren. Saints pal always raving about him.

I hope he comes good next year but that won’t help us secure third place this season and perhaps another striker brought in with his wage would. I also agree with the comments above about Wright and Murphy. Taking a risk on one injured player is questionable but three is ludicrous.

**Smartie** · 28-02-2021 05:24 PM

I’m not hugely optimistic about him tbh.

We’ve got quite a few of these players who are coming back from very serious injuries and illnesses. It’s hard because we don’t know what he was like pre-injury but I’ve not seen anything at all from him to suggest he’ll ever be more than a squad filler who gives you 10 minutes or so every third week.

Our recruitment has been very good of late and it’s probably being picky but I think you have to take issue with us signing Magennis, Wright and Murphy all in quick succession off the back of serious injuries and expecting them all to work out.

**~~calumhibee1~~** · 28-02-2021 06:05 PM

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I’m not hugely optimistic about him tbh.

We’ve got quite a few of these players who are coming back from very serious injuries and illnesses. It’s hard because we don’t know what he was like pre-injury but I’ve not seen anything at all from him to suggest he’ll ever be more than a squad filler who gives you 10 minutes or so every third week.

Our recruitment has been very good of late and it’s probably being picky but I think you have to take issue with us signing Magennis, Wright and Murphy all in quick succession off the back of serious injuries and expecting them all to work out.

Likewise. I hope he comes good but I don’t hold out the same amount of hope that others have for him based on what we’ve seen for Hibs. We keep hearing about his injury but he’s been back for about 5 months now.

**hibbysam** · 28-02-2021 06:14 PM

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Likewise. I hope he comes good but I don’t hold out the same amount of hope that others have for him based on what we’ve seen for Hibs. We keep hearing about his injury but he’s been back for about 5 months now.

Has he? Missed the whole of November, missed a whole month January-February. Having made his debut four and a half months ago, he’s then missed a further two months. Coming back from a lengthy layoff takes a while to get up to speed, then missing out due to niggles likewise halts progress on the fitness front. He’s now missing due to
Covid, again not something he or the club can control.

Folk saying his wages could’ve been better spent elsewhere, if he goes on to be a real success with us we won’t be complaining about a few lost grand in wages for his first season when the club would’ve known about this risk.

***easty*** · 28-02-2021 06:18 PM

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Has he? Missed the whole of November, missed a whole month January-February. Having made his debut four and a half months ago, he’s then missed a further two months. Coming back from a lengthy layoff takes a while to get up to speed, then missing out due to niggles likewise halts progress on the fitness front. He’s now missing due to
Covid, again not something he or the club can control.

Folk saying his wages could’ve been better spent elsewhere, if he goes on to be a real success with us we won’t be complaining about a few lost grand in wages for his first season when the club would’ve known about this risk.

Obviously if things turn out well people won’t be complaining.

Things aren’t going well for him...that’s the problem.

**hibbysam** · 28-02-2021 06:21 PM

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Obviously if things turn out well people won’t be complaining.

Things aren’t going well for him...that’s the problem.

He signed with a very bad injury on a 4 year contract. He was never going to hit the ground running.

**~~calumhibee1~~** · 28-02-2021 07:25 PM

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Has he? Missed the whole of November, missed a whole month January-February. Having made his debut four and a half months ago, he’s then missed a further two months. Coming back from a lengthy layoff takes a while to get up to speed, then missing out due to niggles likewise halts progress on the fitness front. He’s now missing due to
Covid, again not something he or the club can control.

Folk saying his wages could’ve been better spent elsewhere, if he goes on to be a real success with us we won’t be complaining about a few lost grand in wages for his first season when the club would’ve known about this risk.

He’s been back 4 and a half months. He made his first appearance on 17/10/20. It’s now 4 and a half months on and he’s still contributed next to nothing over 14 games - not an insignificant amount of opportunities.

He’s been a disappointing signing so far that hasn’t worked out. Hopefully he’ll come good in future but there’s been little so far to suggest he will.

**hibbysam** · 28-02-2021 07:29 PM

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He’s been back 4 and a half months. He made his first appearance on 17/10/20. It’s now 4 and a half months on and he’s still contributed next to nothing over 14 games - not an insignificant amount of opportunities

But then missed another two months in amongst that (two single full months). He’s never been fully match fit due to the injuries and lack of opportunity in amongst that.

He has played >45 minutes on 3 occasions and never played 90 once. Hardly a big opportunity.

***easty*** · 28-02-2021 05:33 PM

Poor signing.

We, as a club, cannae afford to spend money on a player who isn’t contributing. That money could, and probably should, have been spent elsewhere this season.

He’s clearly a talented young player, from how he’s performed before he came to Hibs, and he might well kick on, but I really don’t think we’ve got the kind of budget that can afford to take these risks.

**Dashing Bob S** · 01-03-2021 11:50 PM

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Poor signing.

We, as a club, cannae afford to spend money on a player who isn’t contributing. That money could, and probably should, have been spent elsewhere this season.

He’s clearly a talented young player, from how he’s performed before he came to Hibs, and he might well kick on, but I really don’t think we’ve got the kind of budget that can afford to take these risks.

Completely disagree. I think it's because of our budgetary constraints that we have to take risks of this kind. We've generally taken such gambles with talented players who have injury issues, or might have discipline problems, or are just plain inconsistent, because they potentially improve the team and excite the fans. I'd rather see us go down this route than sign tried, tested (and basically failed to reach any other level) journeymen.

I don't think there's anything wrong with the strategy of buying/developing talented young players and then not standing in their way when they have the opportunity to play in a more lucrative (higher standard) league than Scotland's. In the case of MaGennis, I've heard from St Mirren fans that he's not only a talent but a natural leader. Given his injury, this year was always going to be convalescence for him. Hopefully he'll be an established player next term.

**GreenCastle** · 28-02-2021 06:33 PM

He’s played more minutes this year than Drey Wright who has 56 minutes to his name.

Murphy / Wright / Magennis really haven’t done enough between them this season.

All have had previous injuries but we need can’t turn into a rehab club for players to spend months getting ready to be fit.

I like Magennis and think he still has more to give. Murphy has shown he has talent but we need more. Wright - unless something drastically changes he should probably move on in summer.

**Unseen work** · 28-02-2021 07:45 PM

Have I been majorly impressed by him? No.

But he’s had a horrible time of it and his confidence has completely gone since he joined so I’m not close to writing him off as he needs a run in the team, even a run of sub appearances where nothing happens to find his feet.

When he first came in is when he looked his most impressive, just back from the injury but he looked sharp to get shots away with a drop of the shoulder and try get into the box.

He then got injured, then injured again and now Covid. I’ve been back from a knee injury before and you wouldn’t believe the niggles you’d get and how hard it is to be confident when that keeps happening.

Getting used to the speed of games especially on the pitches at this time of year is another thing to consider.

I just hope he gets fit before the end of the season and finishes it on a high.

Hopefully we can finish 3rd, get European football and he’s raring to go for next season.

He’s very highly rated by a lot of people, he’ll come good.

**B.H.F.C** · 28-02-2021 07:54 PM

Don’t think Magennis is really to blame for the lack of impact. It’s not his fault he was coming back from a bad injury, not his fault he has had other niggles and not his fault he caught COVID. He probably couldn’t believe his luck when he was getting offered the security of a five year deal having been out injured for so long though.

I did find his signing a bit strange at the time. We’d obviously been in for McCrorie, missed him and then moved on to Magennis is a totally different type of player. And you had the injury situation as well. When he was getting played out on the left it felt, to me, that we were just trying to get him in to the team rather than having signed him for any particular purpose.