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09-06-2021 08:59 PM #271
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09-06-2021 09:24 PM #272
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09-06-2021 09:33 PM #273
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09-06-2021 10:11 PM #274This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
People like Littlejohn and Mackenzie exist to cause offence- bit like the old firm up in Scotland!
The trick is not to read their outpourings.
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09-06-2021 10:28 PM #275
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can you not see that there is an absolute world of difference between the above examples and what i would consider actual racism, i.e. race being used as an insult in a way that is actually harmful to someone?
one of the working definitions of the word 'racism' is that it is when prejudice and power intersect. googling a definition of racism throws this up: "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized."
the black community is both a minority, and is marginalized on the basis of their being black people. though some white people are maginalized based on a variety of things, their skin colour is not one of them.Last edited by AgentDaleCooper; 09-06-2021 at 10:59 PM.
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10-06-2021 06:35 AM #277
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10-06-2021 09:04 AM #279This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I think quite the opposite is true, he seems to care a lot (going by what he posts) about race issues, which is quite admirable.
My post was actually intended in a light-hearted way to comment on a bit of a boo-boo in his logic, which seemed funny at the time.
FWIW, I think gammon is mildly racist, but the racism suffered by non-white people in their everyday lives is way off the scale in comparison.
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10-06-2021 10:01 AM #280This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Priti Patel is very gammony.
As is that troubled Pakistani Rangers fan who was signing a defamatory song about his own family."...when Hibs won the Scottish Cup final and that celebration, Sunshine on Leith? I don’t think there’s a better football celebration ever in the game.”
Sir Alex Ferguson
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10-06-2021 10:13 AM #281This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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10-06-2021 11:40 AM #282This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Brilliant.
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10-06-2021 12:15 PM #283
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The problem is when people file everything e.g. standing up to racists or objecting to booing of anti-racism under the same category, so basically people can continue behaving however they want and saying what they like, because it’s everyone else’s fault for being too “woke”.
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10-06-2021 12:28 PM #284This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Yes it’s funny.
But please let’s rise above the tribal culture war that many (including UK government) is fostering. We are better than that.
It’s easy to mock young people and their naive opinions. But there’s more - a lot more - to it than that.
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11-06-2021 02:03 PM #286
Interesting development in Scotland now deciding to take the knee at Wembley while standing against racism in other games. Not sure what to make of it wouldn't like to think SFA were cowtowing to red top press however happy if this was player driven and looking to show solidarity with English players.
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11-06-2021 02:31 PM #287This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I think it is player solidarity and probably driven by the Scottish players who ply their trade in England.
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11-06-2021 02:36 PM #288This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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11-06-2021 03:01 PM #289
The boo boys are scared of being thought to be woke. It's embarrassing to them.
What's wrong with being woke for a brief moment?
There are worse things in the world.
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11-06-2021 03:08 PM #290This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Kneeling in solidarity with England does not allow the team's view to be hijacked by these morons.
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11-06-2021 03:28 PM #292
I heard on BBC Scotland someone saying how it could potentially look to the worldwide audience when a team that might include quite a few black players are taking the knee for England whilst the entirely white Scottish team stood.
I don't know what to think of it to be honest. If the squad had made the decision to stand, and it was to take a stand against all racism is how I heard it originally put across, then what has made them change their minds.Last edited by Since90+2; 11-06-2021 at 03:31 PM.
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11-06-2021 03:33 PM #293
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Why did they change from kneeling to standing anyway? Daft
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11-06-2021 03:51 PM #294This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I try to ignore those chancers as much as possible, but I’m glad Scotland is sticking it to them.
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11-06-2021 05:42 PM #295
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11-06-2021 05:58 PM #296
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Will one gesture end racism more quickly than another one?
We are well into poppy style tick boxing territory here. What actions everyone is taking is important not squabbling about what type of gesture should be imposed.
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11-06-2021 06:59 PM #297This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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11-06-2021 07:51 PM #298
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11-06-2021 08:00 PM #299
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Has there been an official reason given for the change for this one game ?
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