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There are also some who make no effort whatsoever and will wear their whateverism as a badge of honour. Unless they break the law there isn't much that can be done. Ignoring them, thus starving them of the attention they often seek, is often the best option.
There are also people who, try as they might, will always hold different prejudices - through fear. Some people are simply afraid of things or people that are different. The biggest homophobe I know is a 1st class person, but he has a fear of homosexual men that can manifest itself as dislike. When dealing with someone like that you can either criticise or try to understand and make allowances. I know my preference.
Those that concern me most are the people that make the right noises and use the correct terminology, but deep down they are racist, homophobic, or whatever. These are the people that can do the greatest damage without necessarily drawing much attention.
Bottom line for me is that actions speak louder than words. I prefer a genuinely good person who'll sometimes make the odd mistake over someone that presents a very correct façade which is, in reality, concealing the worst type of hypocrite.
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04-04-2021 05:41 PM #91
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We all have prejudices and biases. That isn’t going to go away. Understanding how they might lead to other people being treated differently as a result is important.
If friends have a fear or dislike of something I’m not sure that needs a conversation unless they are acting on it.
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Where are these more tolerant countries? There might be a handful, at best, that are as tolerant as the British are towards ethnic minorities, but I don’t see any country being held up as example of what we should aim to be.
The data seems to be freely available knocking us as racists, is there no data for anywhere else?
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If you haven't heard a racial slur or seen any evidence of racism in society in the length of time you state, then you are very lucky, but also probably live in a bubble.
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04-04-2021 06:19 PM #97
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The same can be said about casual racism like stories, jokes, songs and even using outdated terms... no man is an island and while we may not mean to pass on our own insecurities it happens regardless... by highlighting this it helps to start some form of healing in society, one would hope.
Change will not happen overnight, but the more who back change now the quicker it will come.
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04-04-2021 06:20 PM #98This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I don’t live in a bubble, I just don’t associate with racists
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04-04-2021 08:05 PM #100
My one and only post on this subject.
There are one or two people on this thread who have or had relationships with people from different ethnic backgrounds who tell a different story or have different experiences to people who haven't. My own personal experience I was engaged to a girl from South Africa who wasnt white. She was coloured, its stamped on her ID and she still lives in Eesterust Pretoria. What in many countries in the world (not the racially backward country that is the UK)Coloured means mixed race. In South Africa for instance you are Black, white or Coloured (once again mixed race) its the reason black people object to being called coloured, they are not mixed race. Coloured people in eastern Province in SA make up the majority of the population.of course reading this thread people are unaware of this or put another way ignorant.
I could tell you story after story about racism especially in SA. The one that really brought it home to me was me and my other half went to Durban for a weekend break. It was lovely, a great beach. but back in the day it was split into three sectors, black white and coloured no race could go into the sectors of a different race. I was taken aback. I asked what would happen if you did go into a different sector on the beach, like me and her. She smiled and said well you would have been ok you would would have just got told off, Im coloured I would probably been put in prison for the night. It hit me so hard, how could that have possibly been the case, what a ****ed up society.
Back to Britain, the general assumption is we aren't racist and represent a fair and just approach to the world but if you have been in a relationship with some one of a different racial background you will undoubtedly have a different tale to tell and this coming from these fair Isles that colonised and subsequently exploited a third of the world and not for those peoples benefits and now seems fit to lecture the rest of the world on racism and exploitation something Britain has never understood or accepted its role in it.
Does Racism exist in Britain. Massively, its why its in the news every day. Dont bury your head in the sand.
Love this site but had to speak out, too many people dont understand.
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04-04-2021 09:32 PM #106
Probably passed a few walking along Princes St too but I’ve never heard anyone using racist language or abusing someone.
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A very fortunate position to be in, but certainly not proof that the issue isn’t there, which I’m not saying WhiletheChief is saying.
It is a question of what a lot of people understand to be racist as well, the level of comfort one has with hearing certain racist words/terms simply because they’re not used in an aggressive manner towards another person.
The problem needs a cure that starts at the root, and the root is turning a blind eye to what some consider to be casual or outdated racism.
To try and bring the original purpose of this thread back in here, taking a knee or taking a stand before games highlights the need to reflect on the topic, it poses questions and opens discussions like this. It may be considered a token gesture but without it there are many who simply wouldn’t be aware of the issue at all.
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Why a football fan would feel the need to boo any kind of supportive gesture is perhaps part of the problem.
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I can understand the argument for not doing it anymore.
Booing because people do though is poor to say the least.
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The points made by Calum and yourself are correct, booing someone who is supporting anti-racism is a terrible state of affairs and should a distinct lack of class at best, or. proof the UK has a much wider racism problem than the government would like us to believe
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"I'm not racist but it's political correctness gone mad."
"I'm not racist but if they don't like it here they can always leave."
"I'm not racist but it's our culture and traditions."
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