Countdown to 3rd place thread

[The Harp Awakes]

Best odds at oddschecker just now on Hibs to finish in the top 3 is 1/9. Surprised how short those odds are. Plenty of games still to play.

[JimBHibees]

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Best odds at oddschecker just now on Hibs to finish in the top 3 is 1/9. Surprised how short those odds are. Plenty of games still to play.

That seems ridiculously short. As you say loads to do though looking good at present. Actually think Dundee United may get top 6.

[Just_Jimmy]

the split is still stupid.

any format where teams play more home than away or vice versa is ridiculous.

we'll cruise to third.

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[Pagan Hibernia]

This weekend could almost settle it, if we do the necessary against a woeful Motherwell and Aberdeen do what they normally do against the old firm.

I can’t see them overhauling a 7 point gap between us, and us with a game in hand too. I think it’s more likely they’ll be looking over their shoulders to Livy

[Greenbeard]

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Saturday 17 April, 2021

Saturday 24 April, 2021

Saturday 1 May, 2021

Wednesday 12 May, 2021

Saturday 15 May, 2021

They are the post split fixture dates for anyone who may have been curious.

Is there a protocol for who plays who on what date?
If we are going to be away to the Sheep - a "six pointer" - when would folk want this scheduled?
First match up and it gives them the early chance they will want to close the gap and gain some impetus. But it would also give us the chance to widen the gap and maintain our advantage, maybe even put 3rd place to bed.
Last up and it could turn out to be a one-off 3rd place decider at their dung heap which at the moment I would not be confident of winning.

[Wakeyhibee]

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Is there a protocol for who plays who on what date?
If we are going to be away to the Sheep - a "six pointer" - when would folk want this scheduled?
First match up and it gives them the early chance they will want to close the gap and gain some impetus. But it would also give us the chance to widen the gap and maintain our advantage, maybe even put 3rd place to bed.
Last up and it could turn out to be a one-off 3rd place decider at their dung heap which at the moment I would not be confident of winning.

I think itll be scheduled early, there wont be an OF derby game of any consequence by then (unless we are on their heels).

The only protocol I know of is the H/A rule whereby if theres an anomaly the lowest team from last season loses out I believe.

[SChibs]

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Split could end up a mess.

Our fixtures work out fine, as does Aberdeen and St Mirren’s, Celtic would be due an extra home game and Livingston one less home game, so I’d imagine that game would be switched. That would mean everyone bar Rangers would have 19 home and 19 away.

That leaves the rangers anomaly. They are due 3 home and 2 away, but are due to have 4 of the sides visit them for a second time. If they move one of their home games away, it then throws off someone else’s fixtures. As the title will be wrapped up I’d imagine they’d leave their fixtures as is.

Not even looked to see what would happen if St Johnstone or United replaced st Mirren.

If everyone gets an even split apart from Rangers then they should just accept that. They will have won the league anyway and there will be minimal lost revenue due to them not playing at home in front of a crowd.

[hibbysam]

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If everyone gets an even split apart from Rangers then they should just accept that. They will have won the league anyway and there will be minimal lost revenue due to them not playing at home in front of a crowd.

They would score out of it I think, would have 20 home 18 away in my scenario. To try and even it out at the top and make the lowest ranked side lose out would result in multiple teams having to go to other venues three times.

[SChibs]

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They would score out of it I think, would have 20 home 18 away in my scenario. To try and even it out at the top and make the lowest ranked side lose out would result in multiple teams having to go to other venues three times.

Ah I see. That's not really fair on the team that has to play at Ibrox unless it's the last game and theres nothing left to play for

[hibbysam]

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Ah I see. That's not really fair on the team that has to play at Ibrox unless it's the last game and theres nothing left to play for

If they have Rangers with 20/18 and the rest 19/19 then every team that go to ibrox will be doing so for the second time, no one will have to go for a third time. Just the way it works out, they are due home games against everyone bar St Mirren/Dundee United.

The fact we were bottom 6 last year, along with st Mirren or Dundee United has skewed the seedings.

Only team losing out would be Livi having to go to Celtic park for a third time but that would even both them out.

Wonder how it would affect the relegation teams,

[Mikey]

As mentioned in the Coronavirus thread, today's Scottish Government announcement pretty much puts an end to lower league footy this season and therefore the Scottish Cup.

[mayo hibee]

Might be time to rename this thread "Countdown to the Europa groups" then.

[bingo70]

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...nterim-charge/

Lennon being sacked within the next 24 hours.

[CentreLine]

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https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...nterim-charge/

Lennon being sacked within the next 24 hours.

Just so long as they don’t come calling for Jack Ross

[H18 SFR]

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Just so long as they don’t come calling for Jack Ross

They can have Ross Jack from Elgin.

[bingo70]

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Just so long as they don’t come calling for Jack Ross

Steve Clarke is the favourite for the Celtic job.

Wonder who Scotland will want if they go for him? Jack Ross previously said the Scotland job was his dream job.

I love a bit manager speculation, I’m a real weirdo that way.

[1van Sprou7e]

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Steve Clarke is the favourite for the Celtic job.

Wonder who Scotland will want if they go for him? Jack Ross previously said the Scotland job was his dream job.

I love a bit manager speculation, I’m a real weirdo that way.

Can't see Clarke at Celtic personally. Even if he goes he'll stay in charge of Scotland for the Euros I hope

[bingo70]

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Can't see Clarke at Celtic personally. Even if he goes he'll stay in charge of Scotland for the Euros I hope

Definitely.

The fact Celtic have left it so long does make me wonder if there might be something in it though.

If they’d gone for Clarke 4 or 5 games ago the Celtic fans would have wanted him in right away to try and get the 10 in a row, Clarke will undoubtedly want to manage the team at the euros though.

[bingo70]

In terms of the race for 2nd or 3rd, I think replacing him with Kennedy until the end of the season is potentially crazy.

Genuinely think he’ll be a hopeless manager for them, fully expect him to be part of the problem there.

[ScottB]

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Definitely.

The fact Celtic have left it so long does make me wonder if there might be something in it though.

If they’d gone for Clarke 4 or 5 games ago the Celtic fans would have wanted him in right away to try and get the 10 in a row, Clarke will undoubtedly want to manage the team at the euros though.

I think with the change at the top in progress they haven’t wanted to make a change this season, it’s only Lennon getting worse and worse that’s forced their hand,

Fully expect it’ll be Kennedy till the end of the season then the new Chief Exec can appoint his own man.

[hibbysam]

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In terms of the race for 2nd or 3rd, I think replacing him with Kennedy until the end of the season is potentially crazy.

Genuinely think he’ll be a hopeless manager for them, fully expect him to be part of the problem there.

Said similar. As bad as Lennon has been, he would’ve won a few games between now and the end. He just won 5 on the bounce before Sunday. Kennedy is useless. He may win a few games, but there is a risk that he might not. Serious pressure if they lose 2 before the split.

Chances have gone from extremely slim to slim tonight.

They should’ve spent the money to get their new CEO in now to prepare for next season, structure in place, manager/staff in place to judge players and do business early. As it is, he doesn’t start until the end of June, no time at all to make all those appointments.

[bingo70]

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Said similar. As bad as Lennon has been, he would’ve won a few games between now and the end. He just won 5 on the bounce before Sunday. Kennedy is useless. He may win a few games, but there is a risk that he might not. Serious pressure if they lose 2 before the split.

Chances have gone from extremely slim to slim tonight.

They should’ve spent the money to get their new CEO in now to prepare for next season, structure in place, manager/staff in place to judge players and do business early. As it is, he doesn’t start until the end of June, no time at all to make all those appointments.

Somebody smarter than me mentioned the similarities when Rangers sacked McCoist, they replaced him with someone worse in Graham Murty and we pumped them 4 nil.

Kennedy won’t get the full time managers job there so the players aren’t going to take him seriously, especially when he’s been part of a management team that’s failed all season.

If Celtic weren’t going to replace Lennon immediately, they should have just announced he’s leaving at the end of the season. That would have pacified the masses to an extent.

[hibbysam]

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Somebody smarter than me mentioned the similarities when Rangers sacked McCoist, they replaced him with someone worse in Graham Murty and we pumped them 4 nil.

Kennedy won’t get the full time managers job there so the players aren’t going to take him seriously, especially when he’s been part of a management team that’s failed all season.

If Celtic weren’t going to replace Lennon immediately, they should have just announced he’s leaving at the end of the season. That would have pacified the masses to an extent.

Kennedy vs Gerrard will be like Murty vs Rodgers. They’ll be hoping they lose to Aberdeen as there is absolutely no chance of them beating Rangers at Celtic park under Kennedy to stop them winning the league.

[Magpie]

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Kennedy vs Gerrard will be like Murty vs Rodgers. They’ll be hoping they lose to Aberdeen as there is absolutely no chance of them beating Rangers at Celtic park under Kennedy to stop them winning the league.

Celtic play Rangers 12pm on the Sunday three days after Rangers will likely be playing the 2nd leg of the Europa League last 16. Rangers will still be favourites but it might swing in Celtic’s favour.

[hibbysam]

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Celtic play Rangers 12pm on the Sunday three days after Rangers will likely be playing the 2nd leg of the Europa League last 16. Rangers will still be favourites but it might swing in Celtic’s favour.

Rangers will only need a point to win the league though, when the players have chucked it it’s very difficult to get them up even for a derby. Listened to Andy Little yesterday talk about when Celtic had the chance to win the title at ibrox a few years back, and although Rangers were ***** and the boardroom was a mess, the club from fans to staff to players were United and they got a result, whereas Celtic are in turmoil just now and couldn’t look less United.

[Kato]

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Rangers will only need a point to win the league though, when the players have chucked it it’s very difficult to get them up even for a derby. Listened to Andy Little yesterday talk about when Celtic had the chance to win the title at ibrox a few years back, and although Rangers were ***** and the boardroom was a mess, the club from fans to staff to players were United and they got a result, whereas Celtic are in turmoil just now and couldn’t look less United.

I said at the start of the season 2nd was a possibility using almost exactly the scenario you describe although with Celtc and The Rangers positions reversed (which I dont actually care about). One half of the OF was always going to go to pot once the other had the League sown up.

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[Heisenberg]

Hopefully Kennedy can’t do any worse than Lennon and they beat Aberdeen on Saturday. It’s highly doubtful that we’re going to win all of our games before the split so I’d like Aberdeen to keep dropping points to keep that gap intact, 2nd is gone.

[JimBHibees]

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In terms of the race for 2nd or 3rd, I think replacing him with Kennedy until the end of the season is potentially crazy.

Genuinely think he’ll be a hopeless manager for them, fully expect him to be part of the problem there.

Think the players will just be delighted it isn't Lennon and will be good enough to spark into form with all pressure off.

[JimBHibees]

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Somebody smarter than me mentioned the similarities when Rangers sacked McCoist, they replaced him with someone worse in Graham Murty and we pumped them 4 nil.

Kennedy won’t get the full time managers job there so the players aren’t going to take him seriously, especially when he’s been part of a management team that’s failed all season.

If Celtic weren’t going to replace Lennon immediately, they should have just announced he’s leaving at the end of the season. That would have pacified the masses to an extent.

It was Kenny McDowell who was in charge of 4 0 game. Murty did semi ok from what I remember.

[JimBHibees]

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Hopefully Kennedy can’t do any worse than Lennon and they beat Aberdeen on Saturday. It’s highly doubtful that we’re going to win all of our games before the split so I’d like Aberdeen to keep dropping points to keep that gap intact, 2nd is gone.

Agree