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    Quote Originally Posted by Iain G View Post
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    For once in this whole mess it actually feels like a semi-thought out plan and we all need a bit of hope at the moment. The public need to see some goals and come carrots dangled to keep them engaged and onside as much as possible with ongoing restrictions for the next 4 months.

    However, Covid is not just going to magically dissapear in June and mask wearing and social distancing could be with us for a lot longer. The worry is the tone of the reporting this morning, using emotive terms like Freedom, sends the wrong message.
    The memes went crazy last night (I know they are memes). People booking Wetherspoons tables for the 21st June.

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    Completely agree with almost every word

    The only thing Iíd disagree on is the bit about idiots at house party. I know Iíll be in the minority, Iíve just come to the conclusion that everyone has their breaking point, thatís been a year these young folks have lost of their lives. Maintaining a strict lockdown isnít sustainable anymore, young ones in particular need to be allowed to live again. Iím passed the stage of judging people who break the rules now.

    The most vulnerable have been vaccinated, the country needs to open up again.
    Letís get them their second dose first, but yes agree.

    COVID will hopefully just be like seasonal flu, except we all get the jab.

    Encouraged by the all adults vaccined by end of July.

    Would love to see Wembley full.

    If itís 10k, I presume itís 50/50 with the SSC and the England supporters club.

    Seems the best way to allocate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bristolhibby View Post
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    The memes went crazy last night (I know they are memes). People booking Wetherspoons tables for the 21st June.

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    Good luck to them.

    Better to have something to look forward to than just sitting about feeling miserable.

    Obviously the ball could get kicked further down the park when we get there but short term I think people are right to embrace the relative good news that came out yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bingo70 View Post
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    Good luck to them.

    Better to have something to look forward to than just sitting about feeling miserable.

    Obviously the ball could get kicked further down the park when we get there but short term I think people are right to embrace the relative good news that came out yesterday.
    I agree to an extent, I am cautiously optimistic and booking for the pub just makes sense as if everything does open up be only way to get a table, but think people booking international holidays for the first date possible are setting themselves up for a fall

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    I wouldn't be surprised if the tournament is held entirely in the UK with no away fans and probably reduced capacities. And that might extend to England v Scotland!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bristolhibby View Post
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    Letís get them their second dose first, but yes agree.

    COVID will hopefully just be like seasonal flu, except we all get the jab.

    Encouraged by the all adults vaccined by end of July.

    Would love to see Wembley full.

    If itís 10k, I presume itís 50/50 with the SSC and the England supporters club.

    Seems the best way to allocate.

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    I'd imagine if it's 10k at least 3k will be reserved for sponsors, officials etc.
    There are a number already sold through the Uefa ballot -will they be honoured or will refunds be handed out?
    I'd be surprised if the SSC get any more than 2k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bristolhibby View Post
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    The memes went crazy last night (I know they are memes). People booking Wetherspoons tables for the 21st June.

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    That is what this has reduced people to, getting excited about going to a ****ing Weatherspoons.

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    Good luck to them.

    Better to have something to look forward to than just sitting about feeling miserable.

    Obviously the ball could get kicked further down the park when we get there but short term I think people are right to embrace the relative good news that came out yesterday.
    Even Neil Ferguson is quoted today that if the vaccines continue to do what they are seeing now the dates could move to the left.

    If heís saying it then we have a chance of a full Wembley for the Scot game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulSmith View Post
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    Even Neil Ferguson is quoted today that if the vaccines continue to do what they are seeing now the dates could move to the left.

    If heís saying it then we have a chance of a full Wembley for the Scot game.
    Brilliant, thatís potentially really great news.






    Who is Neil Ferguson though? 😂 😉

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    Quote Originally Posted by bingo70 View Post
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    Brilliant, thatís potentially really great news.






    Who is Neil Ferguson though? 😂 😉
    Barry and Dereks brother

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulSmith View Post
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    Even Neil Ferguson is quoted today that if the vaccines continue to do what they are seeing now the dates could move to the left.

    If heís saying it then we have a chance of a full Wembley for the Scot game.
    This being Neil Ferguson who some have renamed as Doctor Lockdown given his pessimistic style to date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col2 View Post
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    This being Neil Ferguson who some have renamed as Doctor Lockdown given his pessimistic style to date.
    Is this one an actual Doctor or just another fancy pants dental surgeon?

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    Don't see fans at the games in June at Hampden after today's news.
    Less talk, more gifs. 21.05.16


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    Don't see fans at the games in June at Hampden after today's news.
    Yet you will be able to attend church? Was this priority list based on 18th century society?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulSmith View Post
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    Even Neil Ferguson is quoted today that if the vaccines continue to do what they are seeing now the dates could move to the left.

    If heís saying it then we have a chance of a full Wembley for the Scot game.
    I know some are being really pessimistic after todays announcement, but NS said that they would review again mid March (about the time lots more kids will have been back for 3/4 weeks).

    I think the underlying data at that point will be a lot more positive, and if thats the case the "unlocking" both here and down south, might come a lot earlier than the current roadmaps suggest.

    Both Boris and NS are being very careful not to over promise (regardless of what the English press say about lockdown ending 21st June) and would prefer to give us good news when its nailed on.

    Ferguson is excellent and has been throughout.

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    Care home visits and opening up religious gatherings along with schools (which is top priority) seemed to be the Ďhighlightsí

    Zero substance and a Ďplaní that takes us to end of April.

    It allows the FM not to be held to account and allows her total control on picking and choosing her favorite areas of focus. Nothing on football, concerts, travel (home or abroad), end date. Itís a strategic framework but she hasnít made it clear what her strategy is - suppression , containment, elimination, herd immunity.

    On football how can Hibs, Scotland or anyone else plan finances, season tickets etc? For all we know football might be the very very last things to have spectators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by green day View Post
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    I know some are being really pessimistic after todays announcement, but NS said that they would review again mid March (about the time lots more kids will have been back for 3/4 weeks).

    I think the underlying data at that point will be a lot more positive, and if thats the case the "unlocking" both here and down south, might come a lot earlier than the current roadmaps suggest.

    Both Boris and NS are being very careful not to over promise (regardless of what the English press say about lockdown ending 21st June) and would prefer to give us good news when its nailed on.

    Ferguson is excellent and has been throughout.
    Itís always jam tomorrow with NS. And when it come to mid March we will get yet another half arsed short sighted update. I feel for Ron, why would any of us pay £400 for a season ticket? Pure loyalty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iain G View Post
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    Yet you will be able to attend church? Was this priority list based on 18th century society?
    That and lots of promises of ďwe are looking at supporting businesses and we are looking at x y zĒ.

    Anyone want two tickets to Czech Republic game
    😎🙄

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    Stop MPís wages?? Aye that wouldíve made a deadly virus disappear right enough 😂😂

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    Very cautious words today sadly but I remain optimistic that if the vaccine programme goes as planned then we will have fans at the games

    If almost every adult is vaccinated then death rates may in theory be very low, in which case there wouldn't be much justification for playing the games behind closed doors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col2 View Post
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    Care home visits and opening up religious gatherings along with schools (which is top priority) seemed to be the ‘highlights’

    Zero substance and a ‘plan’ that takes us to end of April.

    It allows the FM not to be held to account and allows her total control on picking and choosing her favorite areas of focus. Nothing on football, concerts, travel (home or abroad), end date. It’s a strategic framework but she hasn’t made it clear what her strategy is - suppression , containment, elimination, herd immunity.

    On football how can Hibs, Scotland or anyone else plan finances, season tickets etc? For all we know football might be the very very last things to have spectators.
    She has made Boris look competent and like a man with a plan

    Thankfully the old duffer who is in charge of Wales will help deflect the focus...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iain G View Post
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    She has made Boris look competent and like a man with a plan
    Alternatively, like a man whistling away while he paints the floor, oblivious to the fact that he started at the door......

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Alternatively, like a man whistling away while he paints the floor, oblivious to the fact that he started at the door......
    He is brining in Ian Black to help out though...(trying to bring this back to fitba)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 18Craig75 View Post
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    Stop MPís wages?? Aye that wouldíve made a deadly virus disappear right enough 😂😂
    I didnít say the deadly virus would disappear. I said the priority for getting things back to normal would change.

    Right now, many people are having to get by with no income and very little support from the government. Peopleís livelihoods are being destroyed and itís killing peopleís mental health.

    We are a year down the line and continuing a slow and steady policy isnít good enough. IMO we wouldnít be as slow coming out of the lockdown if politicians were having to get by the same way much of the population are having to.

    FWIW I deleted my post as I know this isnít the place for politics, I probably shouldnít have posted it. Iím a big supporter of the SNP and Iím desperate for independence. I am however absolutely scunnered by that statement from Sturgeon thatís basically told us if we get back in our box if weíre really lucky theyíll let us out in 2 months.

    We canít keep living like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iain G View Post
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    He is brining in Ian Black to help out though...(trying to bring this back to fitba)
    We're ****ed then.

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    If it's relevant, UEFA have cancelled the Under-19 tournaments for men and women.

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    She has made Boris look competent and like a man with a plan

    Thankfully the old duffer who is in charge of Wales will help deflect the focus...
    Agreed, BJ has screwed up the handling of this pandemic, but has blind-sided Sturgeon at each stage since the vax program started. She's now the definitive Dour Scot, on a power trip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bingo70 View Post
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    I didnít say the deadly virus would disappear. I said the priority for getting things back to normal would change.

    Right now, many people are having to get by with no income and very little support from the government. Peopleís livelihoods are being destroyed and itís killing peopleís mental health.

    We are a year down the line and continuing a slow and steady policy isnít good enough. IMO we wouldnít be as slow coming out of the lockdown if politicians were having to get by the same way much of the population are having to.

    FWIW I deleted my post as I know this isnít the place for politics, I probably shouldnít have posted it. Iím a big supporter of the SNP and Iím desperate for independence. I am however absolutely scunnered by that statement from Sturgeon thatís basically told us if we get back in our box if weíre really lucky theyíll let us out in 2 months.

    We canít keep living like this.
    You watch her release all positive news in the run up to the elections to be a hero...She's no daft!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col2 View Post
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    Care home visits and opening up religious gatherings along with schools (which is top priority) seemed to be the Ďhighlightsí

    Zero substance and a Ďplaní that takes us to end of April.

    It allows the FM not to be held to account and allows her total control on picking and choosing her favorite areas of focus. Nothing on football, concerts, travel (home or abroad), end date. Itís a strategic framework but she hasnít made it clear what her strategy is - suppression , containment, elimination, herd immunity.

    On football how can Hibs, Scotland or anyone else plan finances, season tickets etc? For all we know football might be the very very last things to have spectators.
    She said the plan is to suppress the virus to minimal levels and then deal with outbreaks as and when they occur. She likened the management of it to that of measles.
    She also mentioned that from the end of April we'll return to the localised tier system. I suppose Hibs will get supporters back when Edinburgh reaches whatever tier allows spectators in stadiums.
    It was a loosely worded plan but I can understand her reluctance to commit to specific dates. I suppose it's being managed in small steps and as time progresses further updates will give more detailed information on the easing of restrictions.

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    She said the plan is to suppress the virus to minimal levels and then deal with outbreaks as and when they occur. She likened the management of it to that of measles.
    She also mentioned that from the end of April we'll return to the localised tier system. I suppose Hibs will get supporters back when Edinburgh reaches whatever tier allows spectators in stadiums.
    It was a loosely worded plan but I can understand her reluctance to commit to specific dates. I suppose it's being managed in small steps and as time progresses further updates will give more detailed information on the easing of restrictions.
    Her 'reluctance' works for now, but once we're partly opened up, she'll have next to no control of the population if England are allowing mass gatherings from May and foreign travel from June. Scots will simply pop over the border for events and holidays leaving from English ports and airports.

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