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    Euro 2020 (nhc)

    With the Super Bowl having 20k fans and a fantastic atmosphere helped by various audios and visuals I wonder what are the chances of any fans in Hampden in June?

    Assuming the tournament goes ahead which I think UEFA are confident will happen, the suggestion is it will be home fans only to avoid traveling across countries.

    So if we make the assumption by say May all over 50s and many under 50s have been vaccinated, we assume infection levels very low given lockdown and vaccine helping restrict transmission, what are the chances of a crowd of some level mid June v Czech?

    Even 25% say 12,500 would still make a decent noise but we also know the FM dislikes football and we hardly have any test events on the horizon.

    You can just see Wembley with 30k and us with 1,500. 😕
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    With the Super Bowl having 20k fans and a fantastic atmosphere helped by various audios and visuals I wonder what are the chances of any fans in Hampden in June?

    Assuming the tournament goes ahead which I think UEFA are confident will happen, the suggestion is it will be home fans only to avoid traveling across countries.

    So if we make the assumption by say May all over 50s and many under 50s have been vaccinated, we assume infection levels very low given lockdown and vaccine helping restrict transmission, what are the chances of a crowd of some level mid June v Czech?

    Even 25% say 12,500 would still make a decent noise but we also know the FM dislikes football and we hardly have any test events on the horizon.

    You can just see Wembley with 30k and us with 1,500. 😕
    I think there may be some fans allowed into Hampden for this but 25% capacity might be pushing it.

    It's still over 4 months away though and it's also at the best time of year in terms of virus prevalence so we just need to hope for the best.

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    With the Super Bowl having 20k fans and a fantastic atmosphere helped by various audios and visuals I wonder what are the chances of any fans in Hampden in June?

    Assuming the tournament goes ahead which I think UEFA are confident will happen, the suggestion is it will be home fans only to avoid traveling across countries.

    So if we make the assumption by say May all over 50s and many under 50s have been vaccinated, we assume infection levels very low given lockdown and vaccine helping restrict transmission, what are the chances of a crowd of some level mid June v Czech?

    Even 25% say 12,500 would still make a decent noise but we also know the FM dislikes football and we hardly have any test events on the horizon.

    You can just see Wembley with 30k and us with 1,500. 😕
    Jason Leitch said last week he was 'confident' the games would go ahead, but 'not confident' about whether fans would be there to see them.

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    I've got tickets for the Czech game, the last 16 at Hampden and the Semi final at Wembley but have all but resigned myself to missing out. I guess you may get a reduced capacity but even that seems tricky.

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    So based on Boris roadmap - IF we said form one minute Scotland follows the same timeline then:-

    10,000 fans for Hampden v Czech
    10,000 fans for Wembley v England
    52,000 fans for Hampden v Croatia

    And full crowd for potential last 16 at Hampden

    I am willing to bet right here right now we will hear NOTHING re football tomorrow from Nicola Sturgeon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col2 View Post
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    So based on Boris roadmap - IF we said form one minute Scotland follows the same timeline then:-

    10,000 fans for Hampden v Czech
    10,000 fans for Wembley v England
    52,000 fans for Hampden v Croatia

    And full crowd for potential last 16 at Hampden

    I am willing to bet right here right now we will hear NOTHING re football tomorrow from Nicola Sturgeon.
    Scottish Parliament election on 6th May will influence her decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
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    Scottish Parliament election on 6th May will influence her decision.
    In what way?

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    In what way?
    She will be more inclined to allow fans into Hampden if she thinks it would otherwise cost votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
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    She will be more inclined to allow fans into Hampden if she thinks it would otherwise cost votes.
    🤦🏻 Good grief, you really think ‘she’ will make such a decision based on an election the SNP are predicted to win by a landslide yet again anyway? Also, you do realise there are elections almost every year yeh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
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    She will be more inclined to allow fans into Hampden if she thinks it would otherwise cost votes.
    Absolute nonsense, love her or hate her she is unlikely to be looking for a few votes by allowing fans into a football game

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    She will be more inclined to allow fans into Hampden if she thinks it would otherwise cost votes.
    Ignorance beyond comprehension.

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    So based on Boris roadmap - IF we said form one minute Scotland follows the same timeline then:-

    10,000 fans for Hampden v Czech
    10,000 fans for Wembley v England
    52,000 fans for Hampden v Croatia

    And full crowd for potential last 16 at Hampden

    I am willing to bet right here right now we will hear NOTHING re football tomorrow from Nicola Sturgeon.
    Think Sturgeon needs to recognise the significance of the Scottish National side reaching its first major finals in decades by opening up to unlimited crowds from Mon 14 June

    And declaring it a National Holiday !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onion View Post
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    Think Sturgeon needs to recognise the significance of the Scottish National side reaching its first major finals in decades by opening up to unlimited crowds from Mon 14 June

    And declaring it a National Holiday !
    I've got a feeling a National Holiday the next day might not go amiss either!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col2 View Post
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    So based on Boris roadmap - IF we said form one minute Scotland follows the same timeline then:-

    10,000 fans for Hampden v Czech
    10,000 fans for Wembley v England
    52,000 fans for Hampden v Croatia

    And full crowd for potential last 16 at Hampden

    I am willing to bet right here right now we will hear NOTHING re football tomorrow from Nicola Sturgeon.
    I wonder if it will just be SSC members and English supporters club neighbours for the 10’000 capacity at wembley.
    Less talk, more gifs. 21.05.16


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    I wonder if it will just be SSC members and English supporters club neighbours for the 10’000 capacity at wembley.
    Will be more than 10k at Wembley, will be some form of mass testing to allow a full crowd otherwise it would make no sense to go from 10k to 90k in the space of 4 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbysam View Post
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    Will be more than 10k at Wembley, will be some form of mass testing to allow a full crowd otherwise it would make no sense to go from 10k to 90k in the space of 4 days.
    Hopefully the SFA will announce the ticket sales in due course.
    Less talk, more gifs. 21.05.16


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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbysam View Post
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    Will be more than 10k at Wembley, will be some form of mass testing to allow a full crowd otherwise it would make no sense to go from 10k to 90k in the space of 4 days.
    This makes sense other than it’s the day before the phase 4 Boris ‘no earlier than...” roadmap..

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    This makes sense other than it’s the day before the phase 4 Boris ‘no earlier than...” roadmap..
    I reckon UEFA will be in their ear, hence why there will be a stipulation for testing in order for it to happen. Royal Ascot also starts on June 15th and I’d expect they’d like to have more than 10k in for that also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col2 View Post
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    This makes sense other than it’s the day before the phase 4 Boris ‘no earlier than...” roadmap..
    Right enough I’ve never heard Johnson perform a U-Turn before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveHFC View Post
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    I wonder if it will just be SSC members and English supporters club neighbours for the 10’000 capacity at wembley.
    Sponsors and delegates will be first in line.

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    For once and I mean once Boris has played a blinder on his roadmap. He has universally got buy-in going by today’s reaction.

    Football and travel (home and abroad) along with when we will be out of this are major sweetspots for many. Sturgeon admitted today she left four nation call to do her own daily press conference. Tomorrow is a big day for her and I hope the SFA are ready to go tonto if she takes very different approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col2 View Post
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    For once and I mean once Boris has played a blinder on his roadmap. He has universally got buy-in going by today’s reaction.

    Football and travel (home and abroad) along with when we will be out of this are major sweetspots for many. Sturgeon admitted today she left four nation call to do her own daily press conference. Tomorrow is a big day for her and I hope the SFA are ready to go tonto if she takes very different approach.
    It's only a blinder if he's right. Apart from the vaccine roll out he's got everything wrong in this pandemic. How many times has he had to u turn after making promises? Back in March 2020 he said we could turn the tide in 12 weeks. And here we are nearly a year later. He was also supposed to save Christmas and look how that turned out.

    I have tickets to a couple of games at Hampden and would love to get away this summer but won't be booking anything as he's over promised and under delivered far too many times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col2 View Post
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    For once and I mean once Boris has played a blinder on his roadmap. He has universally got buy-in going by today’s reaction.

    Football and travel (home and abroad) along with when we will be out of this are major sweetspots for many. Sturgeon admitted today she left four nation call to do her own daily press conference. Tomorrow is a big day for her and I hope the SFA are ready to go tonto if she takes very different approach.
    I think that for our parliament people not dying in large numbers and overwhelming the wards in hospitals is more of a "major sweetspot" than getting us back into football grounds or flying off to Benidorm for 2 weeks, even if the SFA "goes tonto" whatever that means.

    I dont expect our announcement will be much different tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col2 View Post
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    For once and I mean once Boris has played a blinder on his roadmap. He has universally got buy-in going by today’s reaction.

    Football and travel (home and abroad) along with when we will be out of this are major sweetspots for many. Sturgeon admitted today she left four nation call to do her own daily press conference. Tomorrow is a big day for her and I hope the SFA are ready to go tonto if she takes very different approach.
    I wonder if Bojo has told the virus?

    And she left the meeting early. Bojo has missed umpteen COBRA meetings
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    First Minister Nicola Sturgeon will address Holyrood today but is not expected to outline plans for potential Hampden crowds — or even if Scots will be allowed to travel over the border by June.

    If true imagine Hampden having no fans but England games full of capacity in June. Can rightly see people p####d off with that decision.
    Less talk, more gifs. 21.05.16


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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveHFC View Post
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    First Minister Nicola Sturgeon will address Holyrood today but is not expected to outline plans for potential Hampden crowds — or even if Scots will be allowed to travel over the border by June.

    If true imagine Hampden having no fans but England games full of capacity in June. Can rightly see people p####d off with that decision.
    Outwitted by Boris Johnson. Jeez. May elections will be sorted though, 100% never in danger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveHFC View Post
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    First Minister Nicola Sturgeon will address Holyrood today but is not expected to outline plans for potential Hampden crowds — or even if Scots will be allowed to travel over the border by June.

    If true imagine Hampden having no fans but England games full of capacity in June. Can rightly see people p####d off with that decision.
    Just remember that all of the bold promises are dependent on a very specific set of data going in the right directions.

    Its entirely feasible that - having stated that all restrictions will disappear by 21 June - that this doesnt happen.

    I hope it does, but the English govt has a history of failed bold promises on Covid.

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    Outwitted by Boris Johnson. Jeez. May elections will be sorted though, 100% never in danger.
    You do understand that Boris has to say all of this because he has a bunch of idiots in the backbench screaming for everything to be opened up? Hence he can say anything and everything.............and caveat it by saying that the data has to stack up.

    You think that elections in May is decided by NS? I dont think you understand how these decisions are made.

    Also, you seem to think that every single decision NS makes is made to annoy football fans..............her husband is a Hibby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col2 View Post
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    Outwitted by Boris Johnson. Jeez. May elections will be sorted though, 100% never in danger.
    All Johnson has done is what he always does be the populist and try and get people to like him with Ill thought out announcements which aren't in any way predictions that can't and usually are changed. Definitely trying to put pressure on SG particularly in regard to sporting dates around about the Euros. Will be interesting to see how UEFA react to that.

    Did one of the journos ask the question about how many deaths this would cause by opening up when significant numbers of the population won't be vaccinated by then? Think 30k was mentioned

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col2 View Post
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    Outwitted by Boris Johnson. Jeez. May elections will be sorted though, 100% never in danger.
    You seem very confident that Boris’ roadmap will go off without a hitch and every date for easing restrictions will be met, this seems very odd given the sheer number of times over the past year that he’s over promised and under delivered when it comes to this pandemic. I don’t think there’s any chance we’ll be back to normal by June with full crowds, no matter what Boris has said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveHFC View Post
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    First Minister Nicola Sturgeon will address Holyrood today but is not expected to outline plans for potential Hampden crowds — or even if Scots will be allowed to travel over the border by June.

    If true imagine Hampden having no fans but England games full of capacity in June. Can rightly see people p####d off with that decision.
    If it is safe to do so then they would be right to be annoyed however have serious doubts this will happen. Even if June 21st happens that is after the Wembley game where they are currently predicting max of 10k if all goes well. UEFA will decide I assume.

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