Irvine Welsh

[Northernhibee]

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That’s the SUN picked up on it now. If I was hibs I tell them to ram their apology.

Maybe they can print “THE TRUTH” on their rag and not upset the grieving relatives of innocent football fans for once.

[we are hibs]

Hibs should absolutely not apologise. **** all to apologise for. Why are Huns watching Hibs tv in the first place? Bunch of greeting faced gimps.

[hibsbollah]

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Just tell them Welsh is an East of Scotland football fan and nothing to do with us. Maybe with an allegiance to an English team that play in green. Plymouth will do.

It's the usual tactic when discussing Rangers fans behaviour.

"Its merely a journalistic tangle of legs, Mr Communications Ombudsman..."

[Jim44]

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Hibs should absolutely not apologise. **** all to apologise for. Why are Huns watching Hibs tv in the first place? Bunch of greeting faced gimps.

Without condoning or criticising Welsh’s behaviour, the Hun muppets might care to chew over the ‘banter’ and bias of guests and commentators on Rangers TV.

[Carheenlea]

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Dear Police,

While I was watching an illegal stream I happened across a bad man saying “sticky bun” and saying he likes watching football without hearing sectarian songs! I find this totally unacceptable, in fact it’s a “hate” crime.

I have copied in the illegal stream provider so they can take this up with Hibernian FC who I’m sure you agree are dirty fenians.

[Rumble de Thump]

The term 'hun' is obviosuly not sectarian and never has been. Sevco fans desperately want it to be sectarian so that it can be used as part of their relentless whataboutery.

[happiehibbie]

I think Irvine Welsh was bang out of order for what was said last night.

i do not like Rangers or Celtic but people need to rise above Racism or Sectarianism

He was bang out of order as is tanner or the girl for not apologising live on air

[Sir David Gray]

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You're making out that Hibs TV can't possibly invite Irvine Welsh back on to the programme. I'm giving an example where they could and nobody would care .

It might be wise not to have him back for a Rangers match, and he might upset the sparryheids, sheep ****gers or soap dodgers in matches against them, but the majority of Scottish fans would probably watch with amused interest.

So tell me again why shouldn't Hibs reinvite him?

If you can't understand why Hibs would feel unable to have Irvine Welsh back on Hibs TV if he has been deemed to have used a sectarian slur, I'm not too sure what else I can really say.

[Peevemor]

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If you can't understand why Hibs would feel unable to have Irvine Welsh back on Hibs TV if he has been deemed to have used a sectarian slur, I'm not too sure what else I can really say.

I honestly don't understand why. Tell me please - what's to stop them?

I get the impression that you've made up your mind but you don't know why.

[Rumble de Thump]

Did Irvine Welsh actually say anything racist or sectarian?

[Peevemor]

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I think Irvine Welsh was bang out of order for what was said last night.

i do not like Rangers or Celtic but people need to rise above Racism or Sectarianism

He was bang out of order as is tanner or the girl for not apologising live on air

"Sticky bun". You're easily offended aren't you?

[we are hibs]

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I think Irvine Welsh was bang out of order for what was said last night.

i do not like Rangers or Celtic but people need to rise above Racism or Sectarianism

He was bang out of order as is tanner or the girl for not apologising live on air

What was said that was racist or sectarian?

[Allez Hibs]

We are currently without a CEO. I do wonder what Leann Dempsters response to Irvine Welsh's comments would have been from a corporate reputational point of view.

[Jones28]

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I think Irvine Welsh was bang out of order for what was said last night.

i do not like Rangers or Celtic but people need to rise above Racism or Sectarianism

He was bang out of order as is tanner or the girl for not apologising live on air

Nothing he said was racist or sectarian.

[happiehibbie]

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What was said that was racist or sectarian?

Scottish anti-sectarian charity Nil By Mouth describes the word as “sectarian” and “abusive”, adding that it is “used negatively against Protestants”.

[Sir David Gray]

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I honestly don't understand why. Tell me please - what's to stop them?

I get the impression that you've made up your mind but you don't know why.

I do know why.

As much as I disagree with it, the term "hun" is considered to be a sectarian remark. If a complaint is made then Hibs, with all their anti-discrimination policies in place and signing up to initiatives to stamp out bigotry and racism etc, won't be able to just allow Welsh back on as if nothing's happened just because it's not Rangers we're playing.

[Chorley Hibee]

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Scottish anti-sectarian charity Nil By Mouth describes the word as “sectarian” and “abusive”, adding that it is “used negatively against Protestants”.

Nil by mouth are a sham, nothing but Sevco apologists looking to apportion blame elsewhere at every opportunity.

[Rumble de Thump]

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Scottish anti-sectarian charity Nil By Mouth describes the word as “sectarian” and “abusive”, adding that it is “used negatively against Protestants”.

But they have got that wrong, though, haven't they?

[Peevemor]

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I do know why.

As much as I disagree with it, the term "hun" is considered to be a sectarian remark. If a complaint is made then Hibs, with all their anti-discrimination policies in place and signing up to initiatives to stamp out bigotry and racism etc, won't be able to just allow Welsh back on as if nothing's happened just because it's not Rangers we're playing.

And if they apologise?

[happiehibbie]

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"Sticky bun". You're easily offended aren't you?

No I have a great sense of humour lived a long time unfortunately this type of language is out of order. My personal thoughts are the PC brigade have taken over the world.

His comments live on a TV was wrong

[blackpoolhibs]

Is there a nil by ears?

Sectarian my erse.

[BonnieFitbaTeam]

[QUOTE=happiehibbie;6440343]Scottish anti-sectarian charity Nil By Mouth describes the word as “sectarian” and “abusive”, adding that it is “used negatively against Protestants”.


And who made them arbiters of what does and doesn't constitute a sectarian expression?

[Carheenlea]

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Scottish anti-sectarian charity Nil By Mouth describes the word as “sectarian” and “abusive”, adding that it is “used negatively against Protestants”.

That’s Nil by Mouth’s own interpretation of the word. Not ours.

[Jim44]

At the end of the day:

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[Rumble de Thump]

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That’s Nil by Mouth’s own interpretation of the word. Not ours.

It's a very problematic interpretation as well. It enables Sevco fans to claim everyone else is just as sectarian as them instead of them stamping it out within their fanbase.

[Partyraiser]

so let me get this right, Irvine is being accused of using an offensive word to describe a protestant when he was referring to someone who's presumably a catholic?!

How can hun be a sectarian term when it's only used to describe the supporters of one relatively new football team, no matter what religion that supporter is?!

[Jones28]

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Scottish anti-sectarian charity Nil By Mouth describes the word as “sectarian” and “abusive”, adding that it is “used negatively against Protestants”.

A google of the dictionary definition shows that this is is the secondary definition, and I can't imagine a more accurate description:

"often A barbarous or destructive person"

[FilipinoHibs]

Hun describes Rangers behavior not their religion. Most protestants are not huns. Many Rangers fans and playerss are.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/hun

[Jay]

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I think Irvine Welsh was bang out of order for what was said last night.

i do not like Rangers or Celtic but people need to rise above Racism or Sectarianism

He was bang out of order as is tanner or the girl for not apologising live on air

The girl? Wow

[rossevenil]

Hun Definition

a member of a nomadic and warlike Asian people who devastated or controlled large parts of eastern and central Europe and who exercised their greatest power under Attila in the 5th century a.d.

(often lowercase) a barbarous, destructive person; vandal.

Older Slang: Disparaging and Offensive. a contemptuous term used to refer to a German, especially a German soldier in World War I or II.

Think that completely describes them and not a hint of "sectarianism" in any of those