This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteThat's being very selective. Run to the semi was a cake walk and the semi was one of the best chances we will have in our lifetimes to lift a trophy and we were pumped off St Johnstone. Plus we're hardly on track to make 3rd right now, at this rate we'll be lucky to hand onto 4th (with no Hearts in the league).This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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25-01-2021 12:56 PM #61
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25-01-2021 01:03 PM #63
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25-01-2021 01:05 PM #64
Some more stats for you....
In 2016, we amassed our 10th major trophy, 141 years after the club was formed.
We now stand equal 5th in the number of major trophies won.... alongside Queens Park, who last won the Scottish Cup in 1893.
Aberdeen are in 3rd place with 19 and Hearts in 4th, with 16.
Celtic are in 2nd place, with 111 trophies.
Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs have ALL underachieved... going by populations of the city in which they're located and the potential support....but Hibs are easily the biggest underachievers of the three.
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25-01-2021 01:07 PM #65
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Bar Hearts and St Johnstone where I would have been if crowds were allowed I have been at everyone of these and more before and it is soul destroying travelling back from Hampden after yet another defeat that you wish you had been knocked out in the 1st round.
Thought 2016 would have been a change for the club but the record since is woeful , how do you change who knows but the last 2 despite probably having better players the teams that wanted it more , more desire and up for the challenge unfortunately won .
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25-01-2021 01:10 PM #66
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Yes if we had a normal run to a semi and a full strength league it would be, but you're being selective in what you look at. We have a depleted league with no Hearts and the easiest run to a Semi we could have hoped for. That's nothing to celebrate.
If we hadn't made the semi with that run in it would be shocking, and we're hardly on track for 3rd are we? Anything less than 4th this year given the league would be sacking material for our manager.
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25-01-2021 01:15 PM #67This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It would be ****ing mental to sack JR after giving him the (IMO entirely justified) financial backing this summer and now in January. He'll have had 1 full season, in which we've had good and bad spells and 2 semi-finals in that time, all the while viewing football through the contorted lens of a global pandemic.
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I think that's a really good point. He has to be given a chance to manage Hibs in a half normal situation before he can really be judged by how good or bad a manager he is.
Some of the non-Hibs games, and results, this season have been quite frankly weird.
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25-01-2021 01:21 PM #69
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25-01-2021 01:51 PM #70
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That being said, if we finish in 4th as expected and barring us doing something in the SC this year it will be about as bog standard a season as they come considering the relative strength of the league and the run we had to the semi. Nothing to hail as successful, but by the same token nothing worth sacking the manager for.
If he does manage to get us to 3rd then yes I'd say a pretty good season, but one which could and should have been much more given the hand we were dealt in the league cup draw. That being said, we're not on track for 3rd right now.
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Last edited by Jones28; 25-01-2021 at 03:06 PM. Reason: Being a moron
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25-01-2021 02:28 PM #73This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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If you'd said to me this time last year that football (and almost every other activity that you enjoy partaking in) is going to turn ****ing weird over the next year; no supporters will be allowed to go to games; budgets will need to be curtailed and football will frequently teeter on the precipice of being shut down altogether, then I probably would have taken an above average league finish and 2 semi finals plus the possibility of another Scottish cup run.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing but frankly I'm just happy that we are one of the clubs robust enough to survive this mess, I would take 8th and getting knocked out of the Scottish cup by Boness Utd if it means having a club here next season. FWIW I think we will finish minimum 4th and get a good run in the cup, the above example is extreme but you get the point.
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25-01-2021 04:08 PM #79
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25-01-2021 04:30 PM #80
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25-01-2021 04:50 PM #81
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I don't remember being in many semi finals during the later Turnbull, Ormond, Auld, Stanton, Blackley years - Hampden was a different country when I started going to Easter Road.
Keep the faith - I just hope that it won't be another 116 year wait.................
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25-01-2021 06:18 PM #82
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PS it was ‘only’ 114 years. 😜
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25-01-2021 07:22 PM #83
In fairly recent years Hibs have lost 3 times at Hampden to Hearts all of them humiliating defeats for one reason or another.
I have attend Hampden defeats to D Utd, Dunfermline, Falkirk, Livingston, Ross County, Ayr Utd and now seen a loss to St Johnstone.
Yes I have seen wins against Rangers and Aberdeen but also losses to them and Celtic. Many of those defeats woeful lie down performances without ever threatening to even score a goal.
No one will convince me regardless of personal over several years Hibs have under performed big time and continue to do so.
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25-01-2021 07:23 PM #84This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Goals for 7 against 23!
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26-01-2021 01:16 AM #85
So basically because all the other clubs have records as bad, or nearly as bad, as us that's our warm fuzzy place.
Sorry, but I attended my first final in 1979 and in that time we have been to a total of 11 cup finals including that one and have won a miserly 3 of them. The whole point is surely not finding stats or reasons to make us all feel better about that, but hoping if not demanding the club do better going forward, there are no stats or comparisons that will make me feel better about our poor record in competitions.
Forget about winning division 2 or the championship that's making up for failure, not a measure of success for a club like Hibs. In our 145 year history we have won 10 major trophies, or 1 every 14.5 years. Since my first game in 1975 we have won 3 or 1 every 15 years. We are one of the top 5 clubs in a system where after the top 6 clubs the rest fall away dramatically in fan base and resources.
So I don't care about other club's records, I look at where Hibs are placed in the firmament of Scottish football vis a vis resources and support and fail to see any defence of a record of 4 trophies in the near 61 years I've been on the planet and 3 of them the country's 3rd most important one.
For perspective: If Livingston beat St Johnston next month Ferranti Thistle will have won only one less major trophy than Hibs since my first game 45 years ago. Hibs underachieve massively and if we aren't angry about that we bloody well should be, especially when that underachievement is punctuated all too often by utter dross like Saturday.
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