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It’ll obviously happen at some point. I don’t believe Jack Ross, in his remaining time at Hibs, will get an opportunity as good as this (playing lower league teams through to the semi final with both the Old Firn as well as Aberdeen out by the time you get that far).
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24-01-2021 11:23 AM #31
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24-01-2021 11:25 AM #32This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-01-2021 11:34 AM #34
So gutted after last night that i am going to have a week off football to recover my mojo.What i will say that over the years watching Hibs in Derbies,Semis and Finals at Hampden is we find a way to lose.We have had decent players and teams over the years sometimes we are the better side but dont take our chances and get beat.Yet the bloody Jambos can beat us with fluky goals win semis and the odd final with poor sides.Thats what really bloody annoys me.Anywaya rest for all these Hibs is needed this week to get back my sanity.
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24-01-2021 11:37 AM #35This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The manager put out a team and system that gave us the opportunity to win the game. And the players never took it. How much can the manager legislate for missing an absolute sitter, hitting the woodwork twice and losing your man at a set piece, the only time the opposition were anywhere near our goal.
What I will say is that at 0-2 the lack of composure from then until the end of the game was astonishing, I would have expected the manager to recognise that straight away and get that message across immediately - instead we never had our foot on the ball the rest of the game.
I feel a bit sorry for JR. He is in danger of being known as the nearly man when it comes towards the winning line. But a manager can only do so much.Last edited by Bobby's Cinema; 24-01-2021 at 11:39 AM.
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24-01-2021 11:45 AM #36This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-01-2021 11:49 AM #37This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-01-2021 11:52 AM #38This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-01-2021 11:55 AM #39
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24-01-2021 12:02 PM #40
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We’ve had as easy a route to the semi final as you could ask for this time and were the top ranked team with the best squad left in the competition.
We will undoubtedly win something again in the future. I’ll be shocked if we have such a favourable route to doing so any time soon though.
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24-01-2021 12:04 PM #41This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I admit I was enthused with our signing of Cadden and Irvine and - on the back of the Killie win - optimistic for the semi final. For all the investment though there just seems to be a fragility right through our team and I don't know if Jack Ross is the man to fix it.
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24-01-2021 12:09 PM #42This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
We saw where our quick managerial turn around got us in 2014 and we should use that as a lesson.
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24-01-2021 12:11 PM #43This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-01-2021 12:13 PM #44
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I totally agree.
I honestly place 90% of the blame on the players last night. It's them who bottled it, yet again, when the manager set them up well and got the tactics right in the first half.
It's the players who couldnt convert their endless chances and then conceded from St Johnstones first corner of the game. It's the players who absolutely chucked it 5 mins into the 2nd half. Honestly, what can Jack Ross do about that?
I agree that his changes following the 2nd goal didn't work, but yet again it's the players who decided that the best option to get back in the game was to pass to Hanlon and let him fall back into his usual tactic of shelling it 60 yards down the park. Ross has more of a responsibility for the 2nd half but still the players are a large part of it and gave him no option but to try something totally different, they were hardly showing that they could do it without the changes were they?
Sacking Ross just starts the cycle all over again. Loads of great managerial matches begin under shaky circumstances, Sir Alex being a prime example. We need to give the manager time as he has hands down improved us, next improvement to make is give the players some ****ing bottle.Last edited by Hibee Mac; 24-01-2021 at 12:16 PM.
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24-01-2021 12:14 PM #45
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24-01-2021 12:19 PM #46
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I’ve seen Hibs teams that were better than the present outfit but unfortunately seen those that were a lot worse, there’s no justification for getting rid of Jack Ross, with hindsight his team selection was debatable.
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24-01-2021 12:27 PM #47
Stick with Ross.....for now. He needs to stop giving away the midfield though. Yesterday was better in first half as Irvine and Gogic grafted hard to win back the ball but the switch to only two in there was a mistake he keeps repeating. That need to stop. Midfield is a battle and so far this season we are not battling.
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24-01-2021 12:37 PM #48This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It’s been the same predictable cycle for years now:
Hire manager and first few games look steady- fans happy
Run of poor results - fans call for manager to go
Manager eventually leaves/ is sacked
Repeat.
I’m still furious after last nights match. I hate seeing a Hibs team with no fight, especially semi finals/ chances for trophies. On paper I think we have a very good team but something is not clicking. That’s something the management at Hibs should/ must be looking into urgently.
This repeated manger cycle has got us nowhere for a long time now.
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24-01-2021 12:46 PM #49This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Stubbs out Lennon in got us promoted and into Europe. Lennon out Hecky in got us nowhere - Lennon worked his ticket on that one. Hecky out Jack Ross in improved on where we were but can he take us further?
In general we get some positivity from the cycle.
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24-01-2021 12:47 PM #50This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Fine lines, the manager is Kevin Nisbet slotting a penalty and Jamie Murphy scoring from 6 yards away from being hailed and us struggling to hold on to him. A lot of what has went wrong in these games the manager can't really legislate for. We were in the position to win them and the players never seized it. Point is we are getting in these positions and is that not the managers job before the players HAVE to take over?
I've heard quite a few people say we don't want to turn into Aberdeen. But that's exactly where I'd like to be, consistently qualifying for europe and getting into positions like last night (albeit lets start converting them).
We've shown signs of getting there. The manager certainly deserves more time IMO.
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24-01-2021 12:51 PM #53This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteHIBERNIAN FC - ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY SINCE 1875
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24-01-2021 12:52 PM #54This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-01-2021 12:56 PM #55This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Everything was in place from the managers/ transfer policy on both occasions on the opportunity was there for them to do so.
There's only so far a manager can effect things. Not much he can do from the sideline when penalties and gilt edge chances from 6 yards are missed.
I'm not saying he's not culpable to a degree. But certainly deserves more time IMO.
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The flip side of that would be accepting we should never beat Celtic and Rangers but we should never be beaten by anyone else in this league outside of them and Aberdeen. Nobody has claimed that’s the case. Of course teams in this league should beat us, but we should beat them a lot more often than they beat us.
When you go into the big games under a manager expecting to not win them/not being surprised in the slightest when you get beat - like last night and the Hearts semi final - then something is seriously wrong with that manager.
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