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    Hanlon has absolutely no impact on Porteous losing his man at a corner today.


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    Huge mistake at the first goal, he needs to take responsibility for the loss today. Awful performance

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    Being put next to Hanlon is going to ruin this laddie. What I would give for a time machine to put David Gray and Darren McGregor in!
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    Can anyone show me the evidence that playing with Hanlon has had a negative effect on him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameron1875 View Post
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    Being put next to Hanlon is going to ruin this laddie. What I would give for a time machine to put David Gray and Darren McGregor in!
    It's not Hanlons fault that Porteous is poor.

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    What has happened to the dominant centre half that first broke through?

    Needs to get back to basics and clear out everything when he makes a challenge

    I have my doubts he should have carried on after that injury he was either badly hampered or had a terrible game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stokesy's on fire View Post
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    It's not Hanlons fault that Porteous is poor.
    I find it ridiculous Hanlon seems to be getting blamed for Porteous making mistakes. He’s cost us dearly in both semi finals due to individual mistakes. Of course Hanlon himself wasn’t brilliant for the second goal either but he can’t take the blame for Porteous ****ing up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigmcfarlane View Post
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    Porteous will be a fantastic CB and will no doubt be a future Scottish international.
    His issue is that he cannot get away with half the stuff he does with Hanlon and McGinn beside him. He needs as you said a Declan Gallagher type beside him.
    There is an assumption that young players improve. That's not always the case. In order to become an international, Porteous has got a lot if learning to do - he's got to learn how to control his instinct to make rash decisions and learn control and discipline. If that doesnt happen then he might quickly go backwards.

    A lot of this also comes down to good coaching and there were signs earlier in the season that things were improving. Things have regressed rapidly.



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    Poteous was poor yesterday along with several others. He’s does get a free pass or get to blame Hanlon. He cost us the crucial opening goals and carries his share of the blame.

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    He is miles off being a good domestic level centre half never mind an international player.

    He has not progressed at all since he broke through under Lennon.

    His first 10 or so ganes in our first team, he was outstanding and the hype was justified.

    Perhaps it's his injuries have took its toll. He is no where near the level he was at.

    Said it before and will stand by it, he will not play for a bigger club than Hibs.

    Compare St Johnstones 3 centre halfs compared to ours it was like night and day. So much stronger yet we are weak as pish water.

    As for Hanlon, he has had a good career but never a captain. Not a leader. Part of the reason we are soft. Its time to move these guys on.

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    I really don't understand why Hanlon is coming in for so much criticism when it was Porteous who has made some very basic mistakes this season.

    If Hanlon is responsible for Porteous' shortcomings, then surely he deserves some credit for the positive elements to Porteous' game?

    Porteous will be 22 in March. He is young yes, but old enough to take responsibility for his own game and performances and shouldn't need his hand held by an experienced centre half.

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    Porto has been outstanding for us this season, lets not forget that.

    Admittedly he struggled badly today but I do wonder if the knock he took in the first 5mins of the game adversely affected his performance.
    He has been outstanding but sadly not since he was called up that once to the full Scotland squad. And that awful performance in the Scottish Cup semi. He has had his moments since then but seems, at best, to have stood still in his progress and in many respects gone backwards.

    He is not the only one, Boyle being a good example, but he seems to spend too much time on his backside these days. He also seems to look to do the clever stuff rather than stick to doing the basics very well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
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    I find it ridiculous Hanlon seems to be getting blamed for Porteous making mistakes. He’s cost us dearly in both semi finals due to individual mistakes. Of course Hanlon himself wasn’t brilliant for the second goal either but he can’t take the blame for Porteous ****ing up.
    It’s a ****ing joke how much some people are desperate to blame Paul Hanlon for everything.

    Now we’ve got folk saying if we had Gallagher playing with Porto, he’d be better. Based on nothing. Have Motherwell, or did Livi, have a young centre half who Gallagher brought on loads?

    People also seem to ignore that Gallagher is 13 games without a win, one clean sheet in those games, and lost 3 goals to Hamilton and to us, and 2 against Killie. He’s apparently the player we need though. When we lose goals, Hanlon is ****. When Motherwell lose more goals than we do, Gallagher is what we need.

    Can’t be arsed with some Hibs fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by easty View Post
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    It’s a ****ing joke how much some people are desperate to blame Paul Hanlon for everything.

    Now we’ve got folk saying if we had Gallagher playing with Porto, he’d be better. Based on nothing. Have Motherwell, or did Livi, have a young centre half who Gallagher brought on loads?

    People also seem to ignore that Gallagher is 13 games without a win, one clean sheet in those games, and lost 3 goals to Hamilton and to us, and 2 against Killie. He’s apparently the player we need though. When we lose goals, Hanlon is ****. When Motherwell lose more goals than we do, Gallagher is what we need.

    Can’t be arsed with some Hibs fans.
    We get it.

    You love Paul Hanlon.

    Your love for him has blinded you to his major weaknesses.

    Hes not good enough for a team wanting to finish top 3 and win cups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbo6-2 View Post
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    We get it.

    You love Paul Hanlon.

    Your love for him has blinded you to his major weaknesses.

    Hes not good enough for a team wanting to finish top 3 and win cups.
    Yeh I love him. Clown.

    I’m not blind to his weaknesses, he was ***** last night.

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    Porteous will not have a better career than Jordan Foster.

    He will end up down south after his contract with someone like Doncaster or Forest Green. Down there for a couple of seasons and then back up the road to finish his career at Falkirk.

    Willing to bet anyone that he wont be a international player or play at a bigger club than Hibs.

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    I said a couple of months ago that he was an average centre back. Too rash in the tackle and unaware of what’s happening around him most of the time. Won’t play at a higher level.

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    Yeh I love him. Clown.

    I’m not blind to his weaknesses, he was ***** last night.
    If you’re not blind to his weaknesses you’ll agree we need better then ?

    Hanlons been part of a soft hibs side for years. He’s the one common theme in a soft defence. Yet all the Hanlon lovers on here tell us it’s not his fault, we’re lucky to have him etc.

    Games and disappointments like yesterday will continue unless we get some leaders in the team. Paul Hanlon as captain ? Ridiculous

    People are right to question him when Porteous form is poor. What’s he going to learn from Hanlon ? How to play a 50 yard diagonal pass to no one ?

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    If you’re not blind to his weaknesses you’ll agree we need better then ?

    Hanlons been part of a soft hibs side for years. He’s the one common theme in a soft defence. Yet all the Hanlon lovers on here tell us it’s not his fault, we’re lucky to have him etc.

    Games and disappointments like yesterday will continue unless we get some leaders in the team. Paul Hanlon as captain ? Ridiculous

    People are right to question him when Porteous form is poor. What’s he going to learn from Hanlon ? How to play a 50 yard diagonal pass to no one ?
    He’s better than Porto tho yeh. We can agree on that surely.

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    A spice boy who thinks he’s a footballer. Spent half his last 3-4 years in Woodburn Club acting billy big baws. Bin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NC1875 View Post
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    If you’re not blind to his weaknesses you’ll agree we need better then ?

    Hanlons been part of a soft hibs side for years. He’s the one common theme in a soft defence. Yet all the Hanlon lovers on here tell us it’s not his fault, we’re lucky to have him etc.

    Games and disappointments like yesterday will continue unless we get some leaders in the team. Paul Hanlon as captain ? Ridiculous

    People are right to question him when Porteous form is poor. What’s he going to learn from Hanlon ? How to play a 50 yard diagonal pass to no one ?
    I’ll take better in every single position. If we can get a better player, I’ll be happy. I think we’ll struggle to get a better centre half at our level than Paul Hanlon. Which is why he’ll still be playing week in week out for at least another couple of years.

    Was the defence still soft when we kept clean sheets in 10 of our first 22 games this season? When 3 of the back 4 were involved in the national squads?

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    He’s better than Porto tho yeh. We can agree on that surely.
    Porteous will always get the benefit of the doubt from people as he’s a young laddie. He’s not been good, most people will admit that but neither has Hanlon.

    But we’ve seen Ryan can be good and I don’t think playing alongside Hanlon is helping him at all.

    Porteous has age on his side, Hanlon doesn’t and out of the two it’s him who needs replaced. If we can get 2 in even better

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    Being put next to Hanlon is going to ruin this laddie. What I would give for a time machine to put David Gray and Darren McGregor in!
    Agree he has had no guidance in a specialised position, ironically Hanlon was let down in a similar manner being part of some hopeless defences over the years.

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    Was the defence still soft when we kept clean sheets in 10 of our first 22 games this season? When 3 of the back 4 were involved in the national squads?
    We were scoring goals and on the front foot, that suits us. As soon as we stopped scoring, teams get a bit belief , put pressure on us and the defence crumbles.

    It’s not all Hanlons fault but he’s been a part of it for so long that surely it’s time to change. Stevenson was in the same boat and we’re trying to bring Doig/Mackie into the side as an improvement.

    You can’t keep the same thing over and over again and expect different results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NC1875 View Post
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    We were scoring goals and on the front foot, that suits us. As soon as we stopped scoring, teams get a bit belief , put pressure on us and the defence crumbles.

    It’s not all Hanlons fault but he’s been a part of it for so long that surely it’s time to change. Stevenson was in the same boat and we’re trying to bring Doig/Mackie into the side as an improvement.

    You can’t keep the same thing over and over again and expect different results.
    I don’t expect different results, I expect us to get back to the form we’ve had defensively over the course of the majority of the season, not just the last few weeks.

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    I think Porteous has peaked as a player. Isn't learning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NC1875 View Post
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    If you’re not blind to his weaknesses you’ll agree we need better then ?

    Hanlons been part of a soft hibs side for years. He’s the one common theme in a soft defence. Yet all the Hanlon lovers on here tell us it’s not his fault, we’re lucky to have him etc.

    Games and disappointments like yesterday will continue unless we get some leaders in the team. Paul Hanlon as captain ? Ridiculous

    People are right to question him when Porteous form is poor. What’s he going to learn from Hanlon ? How to play a 50 yard diagonal pass to no one ?
    Spot on , Porteous is still relatively young but will learn nothing from Hanlon.
    Hanlon a role model ? Mostly rated by managers who have lost there job due to poor results even the ones who have not been sacked no interest in taking him with them and some on here.
    From one of the most capped under 21 players to 1 cap for 20 minutes.
    Another big game defeat to add to his long list , been part of teams that have had some of the worst defeats in our history 2012 , Malmö and instead of being punted a long time ago we make him captain.
    If Porteous doesn't improve soon then bin him as well .
    St Johnstone had 3 big no nonsense we need to find the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by northern-hibee View Post
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    Another one who believes the hype surrounding him. Never an international in a million years, Hibs stalwart for the next 15 years as we continue to accept mediocrity
    Absolute nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfred E Newman View Post
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    Absolute nonsense.

    His post is spot on.

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    Absolute nonsense.
    He’s pretty spot on actually.

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