Porteous

[Unseen work]

I was a big admirer of Ryan but he’s frustrating me more and more.

He needs to decide who he is, if he wants to act a big tough man then fine but he needs to play like it and consistently. He’s acting tough one minute then diving or rolling about the floor to get a foul the next.

Near the end of the game today he chipped the ball to their midfielder who was 30 yards out?

The 1st goal was amateur defending from him. Kerr barely had to move to get space as Porteous got attracted to the ball and caught under it.

Games like that today and the goals we conceded made me wish we had Daz in the team. He would go and dominate in the air and take no prisoners, he knows what sort of player he is and doesn’t change.

Porteous has so much potential but him being indecisive is costing him and as a result us of so many goals.

Id be tempted to bring in a centre half the just loves defending and does the job well. Guthrie, Gallagher and Jason Kerr are 3 examples.

[hibbysam]

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I was a big admirer of Ryan but he’s frustrating me more and more.

He needs to decide who he is, if he wants to act a big tough man then fine but he needs to play like it and consistently. He’s acting tough one minute then diving or rolling about the floor to get a foul the next.

Near the end of the game today he chipped the ball to their midfielder who was 30 yards out?

The 1st goal was amateur defending from him. Kerr barely had to move to get space as Porteous got attracted to the ball and caught under it.

Games like that today and the goals we conceded made me wish we had Daz in the team. He would go and dominate in the air and take no prisoners, he knows what sort of player he is and doesn’t change.

Porteous has so much potential but him being indecisive is costing him and as a result us of so many goals.

Id be tempted to bring in a centre half the just loves defending and does the job well. Guthrie, Gallagher and Jason Kerr are 3 examples.

I agree with the most part, but it’s unfair to have a go at him for getting clattered early on. No need at all.

[Unseen work]

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I agree with the most part, but it’s unfair to have a go at him for getting clattered early on. No need at all.

Sorry for clarity that’s not relating to the sore one he took early on today.

It was meant as an overall observation. He seems to drop to the floor very quickly and dive about wanting fouls all the time.

[gaz1875]

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Sorry for clarity that’s not relating to the sore one he took early on today.

It was meant as an overall observation. He seems to drop to the floor very quickly and dive about wanting fouls all the time.

I said similar on another thread, too busy looking for fouls instead of looking to win the ball. When he first made the first team that's all he wanted to do win everything, now he looks for a slight touch and it's distracting his game, He needs to watch how Daz defended in his day.

[JimBHibees]

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Sorry for clarity that’s not relating to the sore one he took early on today.

It was meant as an overall observation. He seems to drop to the floor very quickly and dive about wanting fouls all the time.

He needs to remember he plays for Hibs we don't get these soft fouls. Concentrate on defending first

[craigmcfarlane]

Porteous will be a fantastic CB and will no doubt be a future Scottish international.
His issue is that he cannot get away with half the stuff he does with Hanlon and McGinn beside him. He needs as you said a Declan Gallagher type beside him.

[LeithMike]

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Porteous will be a fantastic CB and will no doubt be a future Scottish international.
His issue is that he cannot get away with half the stuff he does with Hanlon and McGinn beside him. He needs as you said a Declan Gallagher type beside him.

There is an assumption that young players improve. That's not always the case. In order to become an international, Porteous has got a lot if learning to do - he's got to learn how to control his instinct to make rash decisions and learn control and discipline. If that doesnt happen then he might quickly go backwards.

A lot of this also comes down to good coaching and there were signs earlier in the season that things were improving. Things have regressed rapidly.



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[lucky]

Poteous was poor yesterday along with several others. He’s does get a free pass or get to blame Hanlon. He cost us the crucial opening goals and carries his share of the blame.

[Robbo6-2]

He is miles off being a good domestic level centre half never mind an international player.

He has not progressed at all since he broke through under Lennon.

His first 10 or so ganes in our first team, he was outstanding and the hype was justified.

Perhaps it's his injuries have took its toll. He is no where near the level he was at.

Said it before and will stand by it, he will not play for a bigger club than Hibs.

Compare St Johnstones 3 centre halfs compared to ours it was like night and day. So much stronger yet we are weak as pish water.

As for Hanlon, he has had a good career but never a captain. Not a leader. Part of the reason we are soft. Its time to move these guys on.

[Nicho87]

Confirmed tonight won’t get picked for Scotland at euros

[NC1875]

Said it a million times. He won’t improve with Hanlon beside him.

Players must absolutely love playing us. Softest side in the league

[JimBHibees]

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Said it a million times. He won’t improve with Hanlon beside him.

Players must absolutely love playing us. Softest side in the league

His performance was woeful twice not attacking the ball and tries to pathetically buy a foul. Shambolic defending.

[h1bs4life]

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Said it a million times. He won’t improve with Hanlon beside him.

Players must absolutely love playing us. Softest side in the league

Agree he has got youth on his side but he will never learn how to be a centre half playing beside Hanlon

[Lancs Harp]

Time on his side but patience is running thin, he continues to be rash and his decision making poor. He isnt improving fast enough.

[tamig]

Adam Jackson was looking really good before last season was ended. We’ve missed him badly imo.

[KingPat4]

Porto was targeted as a weak link today. That's from a source in the Saints backroom team.

[Hibernianrus]

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Porto was targeted as a weak link today. That's from a source in the Saints backroom team.

also heard this through a friend of Steven McLean

[wookie70]

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Porto was targeted as a weak link today. That's from a source in the Saints backroom team.

Barring completely losing the man he was marking for the first two goals he was fine last night. He is young and ambitious and still learning. He is also playing in very unusual times. I presume individual performance is analysed and Ryan needs to really look at his positioning for the two goals from set pieces. The second in particular he was stood in a really strange position as the free kick was taken. I'm presuming he just switched off but maybe he was a free man detailed to attack the ball much like Daz used to do. If that is the case then Ross needs to look at our set up for set pieces. If Ryan just had a nightmare at those set pieces then Ross and the coaching staff need to make him learn from it.
Imo Ryan still has a bright future and I think Hanlon and Daz are excellent mentors for him to learn from.

[Since452]

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Adam Jackson was looking really good before last season was ended. We’ve missed him badly imo.

Said the same thing a while back. Was also a goal threat.

[Smartie]

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Adam Jackson was looking really good before last season was ended. We’ve missed him badly imo.

Yep, he was really starting to look the part towards the end of last season and is a loss to us.

It was handy that he went as at the time it looked only right that Porteous should get a run. We might also have expected more from McGregor.

With hindsight though, he has been a loss, although we probably weren't saying that after the first couple of months of the season when the defence were doing fine.

[Callum_62]

Ryan's only 21, a good spl player with heaps of potential to develop

Young players lack consistently and sometimes have bad games

Ryan is not an issue for us imho

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[JohnM1875]

Think some folk forget how young Porto still is at times. He could have done with a few more seasons getting game time here and there alongside Daz and Hanlon, unfortunately that hasn't been possible.

Feel sorry for him at times cause he has made a fair few errors that's led to goals this season.

[hibsboy69]

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Think some folk forget how young Porto still is at times. He could have done with a few more seasons getting game time here and there alongside Daz and Hanlon, unfortunately that hasn't been possible.

Feel sorry for him at times cause he has made a fair few errors that's led to goals this season.

Ryan is only one year younger than Jason Kerr. I know who I'd rather have playing Centre Back !

[Since452]

Absolutely woeful at the first goal. A goal that was a game changer. I blame him more than Jack Ross.

[Heisenberg]

It was him that got caught out in the hearts semi final too I’m sure. Needs to be better.

[THESHIP]

I have a feeling his career will take a similar path to Paul Hanlon’s. Almost overhyped when first breaking into the team, but definitely not bad enough to get rid of him. Will no doubt have a few stand out games and others where he makes mistakes.

He’s one of these players where Hibs will probably be his level for his whole career and will never be consistent enough to get a better move.

[MrRobot]

Porteous is decent enough and will get better, mistakes are all part of the development. He needs a strong leader beside him and I don’t think that’s Hanlon unfortunately.

[Coach Jon]

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Porteous is decent enough and will get better, mistakes are all part of the development. He needs a strong leader beside him and I don’t think that’s Hanlon unfortunately.

This 100%, Hanlon is soft as *****.

[Since452]

Lying there on the floor like a big girls blouse while the St Johnstone players celebrate. I'm sorry but he needs to grow a set of nuts. I like Ryan and think he has something but **** me man man up. They must have been pissing themselves laughing. I hope big Darren McGregor pulls him up on it. Darren is past it in all honesty but he wouldn't lie there like a wet blanket. He's playing against men here. A centre half needs to be imposing in my opinion. He needs to learn and fast or he'll not go any further. I don't think Paul Hanlon is the right personality to give him a rocket when he needs it. Paul isn't a bad ******* and we need a bad ******* as captian.

[northern-hibee]

Another one who believes the hype surrounding him. Never an international in a million years, Hibs stalwart for the next 15 years as we continue to accept mediocrity