Boyle as a striker

[hibbysam]

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He should be capable of doing both, his contribution tonight was very poor.

Like I said, very few players consistently take great set pieces, especially if you aren’t the regular set piece taker then it’s not something you will work on constantly.

[IberianHibernian]

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Boyle has been poor for longer that that.

Boyle being high on the right makes Paul McGinn a much better attacker as he has room to move into. Playing Cadden was a risk tonight and didn't work. We had next to no attacking threat down the right.

Good points . Boyle has not made a significant contribution in many matches since coming back from injury a couple of seasons ago . He`s a great player to have as a sub against tiring defenders but has yet to prove he`s good enough to start in a Hibs team trying to seriously challenge for a high position in league ( top 2 ) as a winger or striker .

[hibbysam]

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Good points . Boyle has not made a significant contribution in many matches since coming back from injury a couple of seasons ago . He`s a great player to have as a sub against tiring defenders but has yet to prove he`s good enough to start in a Hibs team trying to seriously challenge for a high position in league ( top 2 ) as a winger or striker .

Are there many other wingers in the league with better stats than him? Something like 5 goals 8 assists in January. A goal contribution every 2 games. I’d say that’s a decent enough contribution.

[matty_f]

Boyle up front was not the right choice today, imho.

I think it lessened Boyle’s impact and took Nisbet out the game.

[wookie70]

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Are there many other wingers in the league with better stats than him? Something like 5 goals 8 assists in January. A goal contribution every 2 games. I’d say that’s a decent enough contribution.

He has had a pretty lean time with a run of 8 games with only a single assist. He was chipping in regularly before that but imo wasn't playing to his own high standards. Perhaps that thick head of hair has ruined his aero dynamics as he doesn't look to have quite the same zip as before. Some of that was form but some of it was teams doubling up. I think that is the main reason McGinn got some goals and became a bigger attacking threat.

[hibbysam]

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He has had a pretty lean time with a run of 8 games with only a single assist. He was chipping in regularly before that but imo wasn't playing to his own high standards. Perhaps that thick head of hair has ruined his aero dynamics as he doesn't look to have quite the same zip as before. Some of that was form but some of it was teams doubling up. I think that is the main reason McGinn got some goals and became a bigger attacking threat.

And an even bigger reason that we need a fit and firing left winger (if Murphy can get a run of games) and Scott Allan back in the hole, so that when Boyle is marked/kicked/pulled out the game, the gaps appear for the rest of the team.

[Stuart93]

He should’ve dropped boyle and had nisbet and doidge up top

Or started boyle at RWB. Didn’t get him starting cadden tonight at all & the boy looked lost

[lucky]

Boyle is an extremely limited footballer but has real pace. His first touch is generally a tackle. He’s not a striker. He’s winger who will be inconsistent and frustrating that’s why he’s at Hibs. But what’s unforgivable is putting him on set pieces, I can’t think of many players who have worst delivery of a dead ball. The only way he should be in the team is when we play 3 up top. The rest of the time he should come of the bench.

[Logie Green]

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Like I said, very few players consistently take great set pieces, especially if you aren’t the regular set piece taker then it’s not something you will work on constantly.

So based on last night’s evidence we’ve got a winger that can’t take corners.

[hibbysam]

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So based on last night’s evidence we’ve got a winger that can’t take corners.

Indeed. We’ve got 3 or 4 set piece specialists in our squad and none of them played last night.

[Logie Green]

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Indeed. We’ve got 3 or 4 set piece specialists in our squad and none of them played last night.

I think we’ll have to agree that our expectations of what a winger should be able to do differ.

[hibbysam]

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I think we’ll have to agree that our expectations of what a winger should be able to do differ.

Taking a set piece isn’t the same as putting crosses in in open play. The position is different, the set up is different, there is a reason that clubs only ever use the same players to take set pieces. Players get better at set piece delivery by practicing over and over again, if you aren’t the regular 3/4 takers then you aren’t going to be practicing them. When signing a winger, the last question I’d be asking is ‘can he take a set piece’.

[Logie Green]

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Taking a set piece isn’t the same as putting crosses in in open play. The position is different, the set up is different, there is a reason that clubs only ever use the same players to take set pieces. Players get better at set piece delivery by practicing over and over again, if you aren’t the regular 3/4 takers then you aren’t going to be practicing them. When signing a winger, the last question I’d be asking is ‘can he take a set piece’.

I know it’s different but the principle is the same; get the ball into he box so that others can get on the end if it.

I find it incredible that you think that a winger who has played football at International level is not expected to be able to cross the ball from a set piece as it’s usually done by someone else.

As I said we’ll have to disagree over expectations. I’ll leave it at that.

[Ozyhibby]

Boyle is a speedster who appears to be losing his pace. That happens to most of them at this age. It’s like watching Sproule in his second stint at Hibs. If he can be moved on for a few then we should because his pace isn’t coming back and without it there isn’t a lot there.


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[MWHIBBIES]

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Boyle is a speedster who appears to be losing his pace. That happens to most of them at this age. It’s like watching Sproule in his second stint at Hibs. If he can be moved on for a few then we should because his pace isn’t coming back and without it there isn’t a lot there.


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Most quick players lose pace at 27? what?

I don't think he losing any pace. He is just not using his brain and neither is the gaffer by playing him up top.

[JohnM1875]

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Most quick players lose pace at 27? what?

I don't think he losing any pace. He is just not using his brain and neither is the gaffer by playing him up top.

He has without a doubt lost some pace. Its clear to see. Don't think it's surprising giving his injuries the past few seasons.

He also looks scared to run at players now.

[Largshibby]

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Don’t completely disagree with you but we can’t play Doidge because he’s good at defending set pieces. He’s been poor for the last 2 months as a striker

We could play him as a centre half instead of Hanlon. Good in the air and more aggressive.

[Lago]

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Not sure what has happened to him.

He needs dropping. Not good enough.

Something far wrong, his corners yesterday were absolutely pathetic, mis hit sclaffs at knee height.

[Billy Whizz]

With Cadden excelling in the right wing back role, I wonder if Jack will use Boyler more up front, or on the left