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    Boyle as a striker

    Yeah, hopefully the end of that disaster. He genuinely couldn't even play there in the championship never mind semi finals. I've been slaughted on here before for saying it (with the one example at Tynecastle being mentioned always) but seriously. Its clear as day. He is a dreadful striker. Ross has to see that.




    He is a (very) one dimensional right winger. Nothing more.

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    We question his position every so often. Striker, winger or wing back.

    Hes played all of them this season and has been very poor/quiet most games.

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    We question his position every so often. Striker, winger or wing back.

    Hes played all of them this season and has been very poor/quiet most games.
    5 goals 8 assists this season isn't bad at all. He is a decent player. Just not up top.

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    5 goals 8 assists this season isn't bad at all. He is a decent player. Just not up top.
    Hundreds of set pieces & can't get passed 1st man.

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    5 goals 8 assists this season isn't bad at all. He is a decent player. Just not up top.
    Totally agree, best right winger, stop ****ing about with that. If we’re two up top then it’s Nisbet and Doidge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    5 goals 8 assists this season isn't bad at all. He is a decent player. Just not up top.
    He’s a good player and has been decent this season. I can’t understand why Ross put him through the middle in such a big game. Boyle makes McGinn a better player when he plays in front of him.
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    Not sure what has happened to him.

    He needs dropping. Not good enough.
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    Not sure what has happened to him.

    He needs dropping. Not good enough.
    Something far wrong, his corners yesterday were absolutely pathetic, mis hit sclaffs at knee height.

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    Yeah, hopefully the end of that disaster. He genuinely couldn't even play there in the championship never mind semi finals. I've been slaughted on here before for saying it (with the one example at Tynecastle being mentioned always) but seriously. Its clear as day. He is a dreadful striker. Ross has to see that.




    He is a (very) one dimensional right winger. Nothing more.
    We played better when he was up top and not on the wing. Our starting team formation was correct. Poor finishing and a porteous error spoiled a very good first half performance

    We change shape when bringing on Doidge who was very poor and went back to long balls

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    We played better when he was up top and not on the wing. Our starting team formation was correct. Poor finishing and a porteous error spoiled a very good first half performance

    We change shape when bringing on Doidge who was very poor and went back to long balls
    The formation was correct. Boyle still offered nothing, though. Doidge starts, cadden out, Boyle wide right and we're a better side. Doidge should've been first name on teamsheet for defending dead balls if nothing else.

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    The formation was correct. Boyle still offered nothing, though. Doidge starts, cadden out, Boyle wide right and we're a better side. Doidge should've been first name on teamsheet for defending dead balls if nothing else.
    Doidge for Cadden and Hallberg for Gogic would have given us more threat up front, more capability to defend set pieces and the ability to take a decent set piece. Boyles set pieces were poor but that wasn't a surprise. Just not his thing.
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    Doidge for Cadden and Hallberg for Gogic would have given us more threat up front, more capability to defend set pieces and the ability to take a decent set piece. Boyles set pieces were poor but that wasn't a surprise. Just not his thing.
    If it’s generally accepted that Boyle is better on the wing than up front surely he should be able to cross a ball, which is basically what a ‘set piece’ is?

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    If it’s generally accepted that Boyle is better on the wing than up front surely he should be able to cross a ball, which is basically what a ‘set piece’ is?
    Boyles main strength is hitting the bye line and cutting it back, or his wicked low and hard whipped ball between defence and keeper. Free kicks and corners are entirely different. Strange but not many players in world football are comfortable taking set pieces, hence why it’s quite specialist. We really missed Mallan, Hallberg or Newell’s delivery today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logie Green View Post
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    If it’s generally accepted that Boyle is better on the wing than up front surely he should be able to cross a ball, which is basically what a ‘set piece’ is?
    John Collins on the radio was harping on about that when the score was still 0-0. Said he couldn't understand why both Boyle and Murphy were not playing wide given the way Saints were set up.

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    The formation was correct. Boyle still offered nothing, though. Doidge starts, cadden out, Boyle wide right and we're a better side. Doidge should've been first name on teamsheet for defending dead balls if nothing else.
    Don’t completely disagree with you but we can’t play Doidge because he’s good at defending set pieces. He’s been poor for the last 2 months as a striker

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    Don’t completely disagree with you but we can’t play Doidge because he’s good at defending set pieces. He’s been poor for the last 2 months as a striker
    He’s not really. He scored a few in December. Might have gone through a spell not scoring but we generally play better with him in the team. Nothing wrong with his overall play.

    I think we’d have had a better few weeks if we hadn’t dropped him. We rarely play well with the 1 or the 3 up front.

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    He’s not really. He scored a few in December. Might have gone through a spell not scoring but we generally play better with him in the team. Nothing wrong with his overall play.

    I think we’d have had a better few weeks if we hadn’t dropped him. We rarely play well with the 1 or the 3 up front.
    We get overrun in midfield when he plays, especially 4-4-2. To be honest Andy I’m so fed up tonight I’ve now no idea what’s for the best!

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    Don’t completely disagree with you but we can’t play Doidge because he’s good at defending set pieces. He’s been poor for the last 2 months as a striker
    Boyle has been poor for longer that that.

    Boyle being high on the right makes Paul McGinn a much better attacker as he has room to move into. Playing Cadden was a risk tonight and didn't work. We had next to no attacking threat down the right.

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    Boyle has been poor for longer that that.

    Boyle being high on the right makes Paul McGinn a much better attacker as he has room to move into. Playing Cadden was a risk tonight and didn't work. We had next to no attacking threat down the right.
    Good points . Boyle has not made a significant contribution in many matches since coming back from injury a couple of seasons ago . He`s a great player to have as a sub against tiring defenders but has yet to prove he`s good enough to start in a Hibs team trying to seriously challenge for a high position in league ( top 2 ) as a winger or striker .

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    Don’t completely disagree with you but we can’t play Doidge because he’s good at defending set pieces. He’s been poor for the last 2 months as a striker
    We could play him as a centre half instead of Hanlon. Good in the air and more aggressive.

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    His pace was his main assets, he seems to have lost that so is now just a very limited footballer I’m afraid with zero composure in the final 3rd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibee-boys View Post
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    His pace was his main assets, he seems to have lost that so is now just a very limited footballer I’m afraid with zero composure in the final 3rd.

    i remember saying to a mate at a game a few seasons back exactly that, when he loses his pace well, i'm not sure what else he will bring, i'm sure he will score again though

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    Is that what he was supposed to be?

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    It's even more worrying to think he now has 2 inferior players in competition for the right midfield slot. Boyle has to play there, even in a 3-5-2. It makes no sense whatsoever.

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    Boyle sums Hibs up.

    Unpredictable, inconsistent, liable to go missing in big games.

    Not the kind of player to put a lot of faith in.

    He is good sometimes which is the reason why he is at Hibs.

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    Boyle has been Scottish Championship material most weeks this entire season.

    Rarely beats a man, crosses inevitably hit the first man, can barely lift a set-piece a foot off the ground.

    Another one who isn't half as good as he thinks he is.

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    Boyle has been Scottish Championship material most weeks this entire season.

    Rarely beats a man, crosses inevitably hit the first man, can barely lift a set-piece a foot off the ground.

    Another one who isn't half as good as he thinks he is.
    Not sure about your last comment as he`s never seemed to show any arrogance and think he has a good attitude . In fact he`s always seemed to me to be a player that has done well with us because he`s made a great effort to make the most of his strengths ( his pace principally ) and worked on his weaknesses ( his finishing for example ) . But , like several others , his best performances were in matches when whole team was playing well in that magic spell in 2018 . In earlier seasons he wa playing in a lower division just as he was when we signed him .

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    Quote Originally Posted by IberianHibernian View Post
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    Not sure about your last comment as he`s never seemed to show any arrogance and think he has a good attitude . In fact he`s always seemed to me to be a player that has done well with us because he`s made a great effort to make the most of his strengths ( his pace principally ) and worked on his weaknesses ( his finishing for example ) . But , like several others , his best performances were in matches when whole team was playing well in that magic spell in 2018 . In earlier seasons he wa playing in a lower division just as he was when we signed him .
    He was talking before the semi against hearts about playing at a higher level than us which wasn’t long after signing his contract.

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    Boyle up front was not the right choice today, imho.

    I think it lessened Boyle’s impact and took Nisbet out the game.
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    He should’ve dropped boyle and had nisbet and doidge up top

    Or started boyle at RWB. Didn’t get him starting cadden tonight at all & the boy looked lost

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