This might be one for the players/ex players but why do so many teams do this?
Pass back from the centre circle and then someone whacks it forward, where it inevitably goes out for a throw to the opposition.
Why not pass it around between themselves as they would with any other passage of play?
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Thread: Punting the ball from kick off
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18-01-2021 12:38 AM #1
Punting the ball from kick off
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18-01-2021 12:46 AM #2This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Not solely something I've seen in Hibs games, most teams seem to do it so there must be something to it but it's always been a pet peeve of mine.
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18-01-2021 01:02 AM #4
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I have asked myself that very question umpteen times when we have aimlessly booted it into touch.
Rarely does anything good come from it, so you think building from the back would be a better way to go.
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18-01-2021 01:03 AM #5
Punting the ball from kick off
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18-01-2021 01:06 AM #6
Statistically you're much more likely to win possession from the final third than retain possession from a kick-off. It really is as simple as that.
Unless you're Barca or Man City etc of course!
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Won't stop it bugging me mind you!
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18-01-2021 07:18 AM #12
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I have been wondering this for weeks also. I watched Man United kick off the second half last night against Liverpool and focused deliberately on what they did. They punted it long to the nearside but kept it in play and put Liverpool under pressure immediately.Surely we have players capable of getting in to that position knowing that will be the tactic . At least our throw ins have improved !
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18-01-2021 07:28 AM #13
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18-01-2021 07:31 AM #14
I think from my experience it’s just about gaining momentum straight away.
A long pass straight away gives the defenders something to think about and you never know you may get the break of the ball and create a chance which gives the team a bit of encouragement and instantly the opposition might feel under the cosh.
Playing back and trying to keep possession gives the opposition the opportunity to press you high up the park and again gain momentum if they were to win it back deep into our half.
Its frustrating but I see why it’s done.
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18-01-2021 07:39 AM #15
I hate it but understand it.
I presume someone has done the maths and worked out that you have a x% chance of winning the ball back from a throw in. If you manage that, you’ve most likely taken the winger and full back on the opposite side out the game and a couple of attacking players, where as you’d have all 11 players to get through should you have wanted to keep possession and build up the play. Also means you’re less likely to make an arse of it, as someone said, like us at Hampden against Aberdeen.
It’s a bit crap but it makes sense imo.
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18-01-2021 07:55 AM #16
It’s a well established tactic throughout European football. Having to take a throw in near your own corner flag facing a high press is always a horrible position to be in. Rudi Garcia teams to do it every ko.
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18-01-2021 08:23 AM #17
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Every game could be like a shan game of rugby.
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18-01-2021 08:25 AM #18
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You can't score without the ball, yet our tactic at the start of every game is get rid of the ball. It's minging.
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18-01-2021 08:42 AM #20
Sometimes if you don't kick it straight out you can do this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNuRLfzeChA#PERSEVERED
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18-01-2021 08:47 AM #21
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I have the same instinctive dislike of this tactic, but thinking about the reasoning behind it and the fact that so many teams do it, I accept it's probably a sensible approach.
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18-01-2021 09:14 AM #25This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Sure Iceland scored a few screamers that day as well. Sigurdsson was playing for them I’m sure. May have even been him that scored them.
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18-01-2021 12:50 PM #28
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We used to do it under Lennon. The ball would get played back to McGinn who launched it with the seeming intention of the opponent having to take a throw-in near the corner flag.
It was obviously Lennon’s idea as it didn’t happen before. I don’t recall it ever happening when he’s been manager at Celtic though....
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18-01-2021 12:52 PM #29
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Cast you mind back to the Semi-final vs Aberdeen when one of our best ball carriers John McGinn tried to retain possession from the kick off. Seconds later we were 1-0 down.
That is probably the last time I recall Hibs trying to retain possession from the Kick off in the manner the OP has alluded to.
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