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    Alan Rough

    Not sure if this has been asked before but in my old head I was convinced that Alan Roughs first game for Hibs was a night game against Swansea at ER- some sort of friendly quickly arranged and it was a horrible misty midweek night. I have no idea if I am just confused as the stats all say it was Celtic and we lost 3-2. Can anyone shed any light?

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    Made his debut 27/11/1982 after signing from Jags for 60k in a 2-3 loss versus Celtic at home

    The Swansea game was on 17/2/1983 a 1-0 win at Easter Road

    Might be wrong but I attended the Celtic game and was excited at our new signing

    Both HIBS goals scored by Simon Murray’s dad

    Frank McGarvey 2 and Paul McStay for Celtic
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    Made his debut 27/11/1982 after signing from Jags for 60k in a 2-3 loss versus Celtic at home

    The Swansea game was on 17/2/1983 a 1-0 win at Easter Road

    Might be wrong but I attended the Celtic game and was excited at our new signing

    Both HIBS goals scored by Simon Murray’s dad

    Frank McGarvey 2 and Paul McStay for Celtic
    Was Gary Murray Simon Murrays dad? I remember Bertie Auld saying that he would be a superstar after he scored the winner in a game against Celtic - it's a shame that didn't work out, but I remember him being great for a short spell then just sort of disappearing.

    But anyway, Alan Rough - what a player. Impossible to choose between him, Leighton and Goram - an unbelievable run of great keepers. I loved them all, and all of them would be in the best 10 players I've ever seen playing for Hibs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshire HFC View Post
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    Was Gary Murray Simon Murrays dad? I remember Bertie Auld saying that he would be a superstar after he scored the winner in a game against Celtic - it's a shame that didn't work out, but I remember him being great for a short spell then just sort of disappearing.

    But anyway, Alan Rough - what a player. Impossible to choose between him, Leighton and Goram - an unbelievable run of great keepers. I loved them all, and all of them would be in the best 10 players I've ever seen playing for Hibs.

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    Didn’t Roughie come on in place of Leighton in the World Cup qualifying against Wales when Jock Stein passed away?
    Had to make the change because Leighton lost a contact lense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by highland hibbee View Post
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    Didn’t Roughie come on in place of Leighton in the World Cup qualifying against Wales when Jock Stein passed away?
    Had to make the change because Leighton lost a contact lense?
    Yes please see my earlier post #20 but he also played at Anfield when JJ handled the ball in the box and King Kenny scored the winner pulling off one brilliant save from John Toshack
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    Was Gary Murray Simon Murrays dad? I remember Bertie Auld saying that he would be a superstar after he scored the winner in a game against Celtic - it's a shame that didn't work out, but I remember him being great for a short spell then just sort of disappearing.

    But anyway, Alan Rough - what a player. Impossible to choose between him, Leighton and Goram - an unbelievable run of great keepers. I loved them all, and all of them would be in the best 10 players I've ever seen playing for Hibs.
    My granny was the postie in Gifford where Roughie stayed while at Hibs. She asked him to get me a Hibs mug for Christmas from the old shop underneath the stand, and he did; for that reason, he's my 2nd favourite Hibs goalie (behind Conrad 😁)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SideBurns View Post
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    My granny was the postie in Gifford where Roughie stayed while at Hibs. She asked him to get me a Hibs mug for Christmas from the old shop underneath the stand, and he did; for that reason, he's my 2nd favourite Hibs goalie (behind Conrad 😁)
    Hope he never dropped it

    He used to pop in for an occasional pint to the Tyneside in Haddington, he admitted to dropping six eggs in Gifford Store.

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    Hope he never dropped it

    He used to pop in for an occasional pint to the Tyneside in Haddington, he admitted to dropping six eggs in Gifford Store.
    😄 to be fair to Roughie, eggs are the wrong shape for him. The Tyneside is a nice wee pub, hope it can open its doors again soon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoopyboy View Post
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    Hope he never dropped it

    He used to pop in for an occasional pint to the Tyneside in Haddington, he admitted to dropping six eggs in Gifford Store.
    Never realised he stayed in Gifford back then
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshire HFC View Post
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    Was Gary Murray Simon Murrays dad? I remember Bertie Auld saying that he would be a superstar after he scored the winner in a game against Celtic - it's a shame that didn't work out, but I remember him being great for a short spell then just sort of disappearing.

    But anyway, Alan Rough - what a player. Impossible to choose between him, Leighton and Goram - an unbelievable run of great keepers. I loved them all, and all of them would be in the best 10 players I've ever seen playing for Hibs.
    Still is

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    Sports a natty collar and tie/V Neck Pringle combo for the official unveiling. Not a ripped jean, tattoo or white trainer in sight.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Carheenlea View Post
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    Sports a natty collar and tie/V Neck Pringle combo for the official unveiling. Not a ripped jean, tattoo or white trainer in sight.
    A very well turned out man. The barber I used to go to in Musselburgh High Street had several photos of him on the walls (he had a sports shop in the town at the time) in a 'modelling a hairstyle' type fashion. I often wondered if anyone ever asked for a Roughie do. Never heard anyone.

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    Was Gary Murray Simon Murrays dad? I remember Bertie Auld saying that he would be a superstar after he scored the winner in a game against Celtic - it's a shame that didn't work out, but I remember him being great for a short spell then just sort of disappearing.

    But anyway, Alan Rough - what a player. Impossible to choose between him, Leighton and Goram - an unbelievable run of great keepers. I loved them all, and all of them would be in the best 10 players I've ever seen playing for Hibs.
    100 percent. I had been going with my dad to the main stand and was used to him shouting the odds at Mcarthur so when Alan Rough signed it was like Christmas. He is still up there with Leighton for me. The two are my favourites. I met Leighton at an Oil and Gas show in Aberdeen and he said that his time at Hibs was the happiest of his career. Funny thing I used to deliver rolls around the estate in Kirkcaldy where Mcarthur stayed - never bought a single one - git.

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    100 percent. I had been going with my dad to the main stand and was used to him shouting the odds at Mcarthur so when Alan Rough signed it was like Christmas. He is still up there with Leighton for me. The two are my favourites. I met Leighton at an Oil and Gas show in Aberdeen and he said that his time at Hibs was the happiest of his career. Funny thing I used to deliver rolls around the estate in Kirkcaldy where Mcarthur stayed - never bought a single one - git.
    LOL. He was a step up from Jim McArthur (who was pretty good) and Mike McDonald (who was .............).

    Just a pity that Rough played in such a poor team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hector Mudflap View Post
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    100 percent. I had been going with my dad to the main stand and was used to him shouting the odds at Mcarthur so when Alan Rough signed it was like Christmas. He is still up there with Leighton for me. The two are my favourites. I met Leighton at an Oil and Gas show in Aberdeen and he said that his time at Hibs was the happiest of his career. Funny thing I used to deliver rolls around the estate in Kirkcaldy where Mcarthur stayed - never bought a single one - git.
    Leighton maintains he played the best football of his career at Hibs, which is quite something given how good he was for Aberdeen. He was outstanding for Hibs. I read an article where he said he loves the club. 👍

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    [QUOTE=BILLYHIBS;6419758]Made his debut 27/11/1982 after signing from Jags for 60k in a 2-3 loss versus Celtic at home

    The Swansea game was on 17/2/1983 a 1-0 win at Easter Road

    Scotland played Wales at rugby a few days later if I remember correctly. In those days HIBS club had many Welsh visitors as getting tickets for Murrayfield was difficult.

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    [QUOTE=Bearders;6420505]
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    Made his debut 27/11/1982 after signing from Jags for 60k in a 2-3 loss versus Celtic at home

    The Swansea game was on 17/2/1983 a 1-0 win at Easter Road

    Scotland played Wales at rugby a few days later if I remember correctly. In those days HIBS club had many Welsh visitors as getting tickets for Murrayfield was difficult.
    Quite possibly the Swansea game was a Friday night IIRC weather wasn’t great but the Welsh would be up for the weekend

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    [QUOTE=BILLYHIBS;6420517]
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    Quite possibly the Swansea game was a Friday night IIRC weather wasn’t great but the Welsh would be up for the weekend
    Could well be correct Billy - over 37 years ago so these games take time coming back to me!

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    That is exactly how I remember the weather, lovely of you to post. Looks like you were in the opposite side of the main stand. If I had had to put money on it I would have said Swansea were in all white. Strange how the memory becomes a truth. One thing I AM sure of was a big punt in to Hibs box and Rough running out and catching the ball with with one hand. I remember my dad turning to me and smiling. He had a deep dislike of Macarthur even before Rollgate.

    Jeez I miss the games.


    (and I miss my dad)

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    [QUOTE=BILLYHIBS;6420517]
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    Quite possibly the Swansea game was a Friday night IIRC weather wasn’t great but the Welsh would be up for the weekend
    Could well be correct Billy - over 37 years ago so these games take time coming back to me!

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    Did John Collins and Paul Kane come on as subs in the Swansea game?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Radium View Post
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    Did John Collins and Paul Kane come on as subs in the Swansea game?


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    Kano did make his debut and Willie Irvine #1 scored his first goal for HIBS

    JC was 1985/86

    Swansea were decent with 11 internationals Dai Davies Ray Kennedy Robbie James Bob Latchford and John Mahoney to name a few

    Gogs Rae had a goal disallowed
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    Kano did made his debut and Willie Irvine #1 scored his first goal for HIBS

    JC was 1985/86

    Swansea were decent with 11 internationals Dai Davies Ray Kennedy Robbie James Bob Latchford and John Mahoney to name a few

    Gogs Rae had a goal disallowed
    Pretty sure JC made his debut as a 16 year old in a friendly v Man City (think it was a 0-0 draw).

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    [QUOTE=SideBurns;6419778]Pretty sure JC made his debut as a 16 year old in a friendly v Man City (think it was a 0-0 draw).[/QUOTE
    👍🏿

    3/8/1984
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    Was in the father and son section of the main stand. Swansea were a good team, sure that Toshack was the manager


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    He played for Celts and in a game at Easter Road let in three goals against Hibs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heretoday View Post
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    He played for Celts and in a game at Easter Road let in three goals against Hibs.
    Remember that. 3-1. Steve Archibald got two of them. Just found the highlights here. Liked Roughie, he was great for Hibs.

    https://youtu.be/aqFqi-RAzWU
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baader View Post
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    Remember that. 3-1. Steve Archibald got two of them. Just found the highlights here. Liked Roughie, he was great for Hibs.

    https://youtu.be/aqFqi-RAzWU

    had forgotten about that game - was a good watch that. Thanks for sharing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hector Mudflap View Post
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    Not sure if this has been asked before but in my old head I was convinced that Alan Roughs first game for Hibs was a night game against Swansea at ER- some sort of friendly quickly arranged and it was a horrible misty midweek night. I have no idea if I am just confused as the stats all say it was Celtic and we lost 3-2. Can anyone shed any light?
    I have a photo somewhere taken from the top of the terracing that night. Through the mist you can just make out Roughie palming down a pass back. It was a Friday night. Must dig it out. It’s a hellish quality!

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