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Big game next Saturday though 😉
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Thread: Well Done Jack Ross
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16-01-2021 07:27 PM #91
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16-01-2021 07:27 PM #92This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Regardless, even if watching entertaining football is something you couldn’t care less about, the amount of people mentioning it would suggest it’s something a lot of folk do care about so it’s worthy of discussion.Last edited by calumhibee1; 16-01-2021 at 07:30 PM.
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16-01-2021 07:36 PM #93
it's quite funny that so many have always given it tight with aberdeen teams over the years, winning but not pleasant on the eye
now it's acceptable for us to do the same
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16-01-2021 07:39 PM #94This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-01-2021 07:40 PM #95
Jack Ross has done well since taking over at Hibs. You can debate to over what extend he has done well but his record shows he has consistently got results.
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16-01-2021 07:43 PM #96
Would we rather be boring to watch but win or be great to watch and draw or lose? I'm not really sure of the answer to that myself. I suspect either outcome would bring it's critics.
Very few teams can be great to watch and also consistently get results.
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16-01-2021 08:03 PM #97This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Scrappy wins like that are just as important as any others if high league finishes are to be achieved. I’ve seen enough genuinely good performances to believe that Ross ideally wants us playing, attractive and attacking football.
Not every opposing team in the SPL is very amenable to allowing us to play like that though, so good to have other options and be able to battle when we need to as well.
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16-01-2021 08:11 PM #98This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-01-2021 08:14 PM #99This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-01-2021 08:57 PM #100
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16-01-2021 09:01 PM #101This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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16-01-2021 09:24 PM #102This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Today we deserved the win, we weren’t great but we played well in patches (those patches tended to be the patches of grass...) neither the opponents nor the conditions were helpful towards a slick game.
I think with the squad that Ross is putting together, we’re not setting up to be a dull, pragmatic team, nor a strong plodding team like Aberdeen. I very much think that ideally Ross wants us playing entertaining football and i believe that we’ll get there.
In the meantime, winning ugly is a decent substitute.Follow the Hibs podcast, Longbangers, on Twitter (@longbangers)
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16-01-2021 09:46 PM #103This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
We were well set up today and it was just our fluency in the final third that wasn’t there. Bad pitch, debut signings, Murphy just back from injury... there are reasons for that.
I see real potential in this squad. Jack has a definite structure to us but we’ve got good players who can improve together.
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16-01-2021 10:00 PM #104
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We’ve all seen Hibs teams who have been absolutely dire to watch. It’s about intent for me. Clearly this team are trying to play the right way. Doesn’t always come off but that’s the way it goes.
Criticism of style should be saved for teams who are set up to intentionally play negative or particularly industrial football. That’s not us.
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16-01-2021 10:03 PM #105
In his first interview with us Alan Stubbs was asked about his preferred style of play and he responded along the lines of "whatever wins us games".
I get the feeling that Jack Ross understands this statement slightly better than Stubbsy did (and I bloody love Alan Stubbs).
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16-01-2021 10:11 PM #106
Killie result was important for a variety of reasons but winning the semi is very important.
It’s a tough winnable game and will give us a great shot at another trophy. Hopefully they have learnt from the last semi and know what to expect at the stadium etc but Saints will go in confident also.
If we lose the semi then it will be a massive blow. Livi are really the form team right now it seems.
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16-01-2021 10:32 PM #107This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I watched the first half today and was bored so kept an eye on the score and did other things around the house during the second half (it sounds like we were better second half). That’s been a common theme a lot this season, flitting in and out of games. Some of that will be down to no fans and the disconnect that has, but another part is simply that there’s lots of games where for large parts nothing is happening IMO.Last edited by The Modfather; 16-01-2021 at 10:34 PM.
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16-01-2021 10:45 PM #108
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The days of open expansive football are over unless one team has a massive advantage over the other in terms of quality. Seen it down south and happening up here and everywhere else. More like games of chess. Open up in this league and you're asking for relegation.
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16-01-2021 11:06 PM #109This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
We look to me as well placed as ever to start down that process, we are doing a cracking job of consistenly beating the sides below us as we have been looking to emulate for a long time, with a manager with an excellent win record across this job and those previous, our signing policy is as clear to me as it has ever been in terms of what we are trying to bring in. The manager always puts out a positive side if at times not always reflected in the style of play.
The manager and set-up we have in place are surely well above pass marks for delivering vs our ambitions here.
And they deserve time with the fans backing to continue to improve.
When the final whistle goes at the end of a run off the mill league game such as today and we reflect back, I'll take the three points every time cheers.
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17-01-2021 07:42 AM #110This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
We won yesterday, but other than that there was nothing much to enjoy about the game. The first half was eye bleeding. That’s been a common theme this season evidenced by the fact this discussion comes up nearly every week.
This season we’ve won what, 3 or 4 home games? If the football is only enjoyable when winning and you’re also not winning the majority of the time (which isn’t a criticism btw, I don’t expect us to) then that’s a problem. You can’t have the fans being bored every week with the only positive being winning sometimes, especially at home.Last edited by calumhibee1; 17-01-2021 at 07:53 AM.
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17-01-2021 07:56 AM #111This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Read the match threads. Most weeks there is masses of fans that are bored by our style of play. That’s almost acceptable if we’re winning, but even then, our wins are often boring as well.
Ross is picking up decent results and that’s of course a good thing. But the method of getting them isn’t great at all and it’s something we’ve slaughtered Aberdeen for in the past.
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17-01-2021 07:59 AM #112
With the players we’ve signed and those returning from injury the style and finesse will return in abundance. At the moment all that matters to me is staying 3rd and winning the semi final.
The pitch, the so called boring play, the home record........none of it really bothering me that much in the greater scheme of things.
It’s a bit of a rollercoaster season so far, but the good far outweighs any moans for me. People just need to enjoy it for what it is.
2/3rds of the way through the league campaign, we’re in a great position. We’re bringing in the kind of players you would hope to see at Hibs. The manager knows what he’s doing.
Here’s hoping Celtic implode, Aberdeen have a poor run and we go on a winning streak of form. You have to dream.
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17-01-2021 08:03 AM #113
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There is not much wrong with the style of football for the level we are at. We are open in some games and tight in others. Killie yesterday were a very well setup team that closed us down very quickly. We play much better on the counter but that’s hard if the other team remains compact and doesn’t provide any space to exploit. We were naive against Livi and that’s what got us beat. I’m sure we won’t do that again.
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17-01-2021 08:08 AM #114
Maybe we should just be thankful that theirs any football on at all at the moment, and that we all have something more than lockdown to complain aboot?
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17-01-2021 08:15 AM #115This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
When the conditions were like that yesterday, and you’ve not won in 4 games, and with players just coming back from injury, the points were the most important thing. We aren’t set up negatively, and the players we have are mostly attacking exciting players, it just sometimes doesn’t happen and that’s also due to the fact there are two teams on the park.
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17-01-2021 08:23 AM #116This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Did you see the state of the pitch yesterday, do you know how difficult it is for ball carrying players like Boyle and Murphy to play effectively on that surface, especially so on a blustery day?
Yesterday Ross set up his team to do what was needed. We created by far the better chances and (apart from a solitary lapse) our defence looked very solid. First half was horrible to watch but we won on merit with a decent second half performance.
Would be nice to see you take some account of the conditions over the winter months and maybe accept that the opposition is there for a reason.
It never ceases to amaze me how a small vocal minority of posters on these boards continually focus on the negatives.
A 2v0 win against Kilmarnock yesterday, 3rd in the league, in the semi final of the league cup and yet here you are looking for something to be negative about
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17-01-2021 08:42 AM #117This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Of course most of Hibs fans know it hasn’t always been pretty, but they also know that the table doesn’t lie. At this stage we’re clear in third place, we’re the third highest goal scorers and we’re in the semi final of a cup, with a realistic chance of winning it.
We’re also hoping for the return of our most creative midfielder and we have a couple of new signings that are very good captures for Hibs. What reasonably minded Hibs fan could fail to give credit to the progress the club is making?
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17-01-2021 08:52 AM #118This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Every week the game is described as huge, big, massive etc when in reality most games we play are run of the mill scraps against bog standard teams.
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17-01-2021 09:00 AM #119
On the big game “debate”. There’s obviously degree of big game. Yesterday v Killie gave us the chance to move into 3rd place and consolidate halting a winless streak, whilst also moving further ahead of a side below us who are having a freakish run of form. For me that constitutes a big game.
Not as big as a cup semi final though, another of which we have to look forward to.
For our more advanced big game definition experts on here, a question. Is a game v Killie, in the circumstances described, a bigger game than the one v Celtic earlier this week? Does a game we expect to win take precedence over one where we ordinarily would have low expectations? The grey areas and nuances of big game or not criteria definitely evade me.
Maybe it’s just easier to view every game as a big game, knowing that some are obviously bigger than others.
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17-01-2021 09:17 AM #120
I think he is doing a great job. As I have stated before I can't get as steamed up with bad performances or results as I would normally due to the unique circumstances this season.
It's great that we have any football to watch at all and I for one am grateful for the efforts being made to keep it going.
It must be strange for the team and management having to live in a certain way then go out and perform in an environment nothing like the one they are used to.
Despite all this the manager is building an exciting squad which is about to play our second semi in succession as well as sitting 3rd in the league.
I reckon we will go from strength to strength if we let Jack get on with the fine job he is doing.
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