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    Frozen pitch

    Noted on this afternoon's Sportscene, Thomo tried to raise the matter about Dundee Utd's pitch being frozen, and started to speak about undersoil heating. Fud Currie said they would talk about that later. Unless I missed it, they didn't. If the heating was on why is pitch frozen?
    If so same applies why was the Livi v Ross County moved to tomorrow due to frozen pitch so soon?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Smiggy 7-0 View Post
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    Noted on this afternoon's Sportscene, Thomo tried to raise the matter about Dundee Utd's pitch being frozen, and started to speak about undersoil heating. Fud Currie said they would talk about that later. Unless I missed it, they didn't. If the heating was on why is pitch frozen?
    If so same applies why was the Livi v Ross County moved to tomorrow due to frozen pitch so soon?
    United have always had a drainage problem, in the corner where the players run out, I donít know if it was that area that was frozen?

    Livvi v County was called a couple of days ago, to play tomorrow
    Think Utd v Saints has been rescheduled for this Tuesday

    Meanwhile 100 yards along the road, Dundeeís game v Bonnyrigg is on tonight?

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    Not sure about United but I don't think Livi have undersoil heating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danhibees1875 View Post
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    Not sure about United but I don't think Livi have undersoil heating.
    Correct, they don't

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    Quote Originally Posted by danhibees1875 View Post
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    Not sure about United but I don't think Livi have undersoil heating.
    A few plastic pitches were unplayable today

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    Quote Originally Posted by danhibees1875 View Post
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    Not sure about United but I don't think Livi have undersoil heating.
    Thought all Premier League clubs had to have it, or does it not include plastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Whizz View Post
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    United have always had a drainage problem, in the corner where the players run out, I donít know if it was that area that was frozen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smiggy 7-0 View Post
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    Thought all Premier League clubs had to have it, or does it not include plastic.

    I'm not sure if that's one of them but the SPFL removed a number of rules of Premier League membership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    Thought United Saints would play tomorrow given temperatures due to rise.

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    A few plastic pitches were unplayable today
    The Glasgow v Edinburgh rugby game on the plastic yesterday was called off as well
    All weather my arse

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    Undersoil heating is not fail safe. Depends on the settings, when it is switched on, efficiency of the system etc. It should be used in advance of freezing temperatures as a preventative measure, not retrospectively as a "defrost". Even so, in extreme temperatures and deep frost, even the max settings may not be enough to keep the entire pitch frost free. It is often small areas which deem a pitch unsafe. This is obviously exacerbated if there is already high moisture content in the ground.

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    Undersoil heating is not fail safe. Depends on the settings, when it is switched on, efficiency of the system etc. It should be used in advance of freezing temperatures as a preventative measure, not retrospectively as a "defrost". Even so, in extreme temperatures and deep frost, even the max settings may not be enough to keep the entire pitch frost free. It is often small areas which deem a pitch unsafe. This is obviously exacerbated if there is already high moisture content in the ground.
    There canít be many examples where a pitch with undersoil heating has been called off for a frozen pitch.

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    I think Livingstone were expecting minus temperatures Friday into Saturday but the temperature to rise come Sunday so asked for a switch to have more chance of the game being on
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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbysam View Post
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    There canít be many examples where a pitch with undersoil heating has been called off for a frozen pitch.
    The report i read said parts of the pitch were still hard which makes me think the heating maybe hadn't been turned on in time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by offshorehibby View Post
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    I think Livingstone were expecting minus temperatures Friday into Saturday but the temperature to rise come Sunday so asked for a switch to have more chance of the game being on
    And will be a sensible decision, if the game goes ahead tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by offshorehibby View Post
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    I think Livingstone were expecting minus temperatures Friday into Saturday but the temperature to rise come Sunday so asked for a switch to have more chance of the game being on
    Last weeks livi game was off due to frozen pitch

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    Quote Originally Posted by offshorehibby View Post
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    The report i read said parts of the pitch were still hard which makes me think the heating maybe hadn't been turned on in time.
    Maybe cynical to say they had plenty of injuries for today.

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    Hope celtic left somebody at home to switch their undersoil heating on

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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbysam View Post
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    Maybe cynical to say they had plenty of injuries for today.
    Think they should have been told to play Sunday when temperatures higher as no reason not to imo

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    Most of the undersoil heating is years old as is the drainage, no point in switching on if the pipes underneath are frozen!
    Remember, most undersoil heating is between the white lines, and the drainage pipes run around under the track sides.

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