https://twitter.com/hibernianfc/status/1365602578621464577?s=21
Goes some way to dispel the myths about Joe’s defensive work, also showing how pivotal he is to our all round game. He doesn’t run around daft, but his positional sense is very good, and his ability on the ball is second to none.
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27-02-2021 09:18 AM #1
Joe Newell
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27-02-2021 09:24 AM #2This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
There are times when 2 or 3 players are bearing down on him and he just doesnt panic. Great user of the ball.
His pace is probably the biggest issue with him playing at a higher level down south, which is actually great for us tbh.
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27-02-2021 09:24 AM #3This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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27-02-2021 09:28 AM #4This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Do you think your security can keep you in purity, you will not shake us off above or below. Scottish friction, Scottish fiction
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27-02-2021 09:29 AM #5This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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27-02-2021 09:32 AM #6This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Do you think your security can keep you in purity, you will not shake us off above or below. Scottish friction, Scottish fiction
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27-02-2021 09:33 AM #7This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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27-02-2021 10:24 AM #8This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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27-02-2021 10:26 AM #9This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Do you think your security can keep you in purity, you will not shake us off above or below. Scottish friction, Scottish fiction
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27-02-2021 03:51 PM #10
Don’t think I’ll ever get what people see in Newall. Every time he plays, teams find it easier to play through us. Gogic and Irvine was working.
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27-02-2021 03:55 PM #11This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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27-02-2021 03:57 PM #12This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Blaming today on Newell is a massive stretch, the whole team was bad.
That bit in bold is complete nonsense, we've kept several clean sheets this season with Newell playing as the deepest in midfield. He put in several good big tackles in the first half and had more tackles than any other player last week against Hamilton.
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27-02-2021 04:00 PM #13
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I think Newell is a decent player but changing the midfield after Aberdeen was crazy for me. We got a break last week with the sending off which made the game relatively easy thereafter. The change has effected Murphy and Irvine.
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27-02-2021 04:06 PM #14This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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27-02-2021 04:10 PM #15
His defensive ability is severely underrated on here.
He has the second most tackles per game in the hibs squad behind only Paul McGinn.
In the league he is in the top 20 for tackles won per game, ahead of players like Bartley and Lewis Ferguson.
Just cause Gogic is big doesn't mean he's better defensively for our midfield. Newall makes more tackles, more interceptions, understands space better and is so much better technically when on the ball.
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27-02-2021 04:15 PM #16madhatterLeft by mutual consent!This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Obvious today that our midfield still has problems. Newell, Irvine and Gogic don’t give us enough drive when up against these types of midfields. Newell slows game far too much. He needs to improve on that.
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27-02-2021 04:17 PM #17This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
However there is a debate to be had that for all Newell’s individually qualify he potentially plays a big part in our midfield being less than the sum of its parts a lot more often than it should. Gogic, Irvine & Murphy gave us the best and most balanced performance of the season against Aberdeen IMO. Granted that was one game in isolation.
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27-02-2021 04:28 PM #18This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
But surely you had to see that Gogic should have started today, not at the expense of Newell I would add.
You harped on earlier today that you wouldn't need a player as poor as Gogic as we would dominate.
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27-02-2021 04:32 PM #19
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It would appear gogic was very much needed today, in place of Murphy, who for me has done nothing to get me excited. Newell is not the same player when asked to do the majority of the defending in the centre of the park
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27-02-2021 04:40 PM #20
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Gogic should never have been out of the team after his performance against Aberdeen. Murphy and Irvine have also suffered without him there.
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27-02-2021 04:41 PM #21This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Ps I certainly never said Gogic was poor, I called him a limited battering ram, which he is. The games we won with him and Irvine we had zero control in, we out battled and won the game through taking chances.
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27-02-2021 04:49 PM #22This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Got to agree with Oz, I'm another who doesn't get the newell love in. Reasonable player, not unhappy he's signed up for another 2 years, but equally had he left at the end of the season, would not have bothered me.
Everyone entitled to an opinion.
Serious questions need asked and addressed at the way we've been dismantled by Ross County, Livingston and Motherwell.
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27-02-2021 04:51 PM #23
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67% possession today but never in control of the game.
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27-02-2021 04:53 PM #24This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
After the triple substitution which should have happened at half time we dominated possession and if Doidge had scored one of his gilt edge chances we might just have got something out the game.
PS I take it a limited battering ram is better than a poor player and if you thought Gogic and Irvine were poor against Aberdeen and we had zero control in that game then I'm afraid you are simply wrong. It actually pains me to tell a poster they are wrong but there it is
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27-02-2021 04:56 PM #25This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I think that the matches where some people think we don't need him are exactly those where we do.
I'd have made room for him to start today.
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27-02-2021 04:57 PM #26This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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27-02-2021 05:03 PM #28
He also managed to get another crap effort on goal today from a decent position when he had time and space to take a touch and shot.
He’s probably as bad a finisher as I’ve seen running on to the ball.
At least he hit it cleanly wide today, and nearly got it on target, unlike his previous sclaffs.
I like Newell, he offers us a lot, but we’ve looked a poorer team since he came back into it.
At the start of the season I thought our best team might be missing a few big players. I’m struggling to see how Newell, Nisbet and Porteous fit into the team and a solid argument could be made that they’re our best defender, midfielder and striker.
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27-02-2021 05:03 PM #29This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
according to some it's because of our pitch, 6 wins out of 17 games at home suggests we would maybe be better moving to straiton
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27-02-2021 05:11 PM #30This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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