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    Stevenson and Hanlon

    Not their fault but time has surely caught up with our cup final heroes. It’s sad to see them being ripped apart by players they’d have had in their pockets a couple of years ago. End this cruelest of blood sports now please, Jack Ross.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S View Post
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    Not their fault but time has surely caught up with our cup final heroes. It’s sad to see them being ripped apart by players they’d have had in their pockets a couple of years ago. End this cruelest of blood sports now please, Jack Ross.
    The annoying thing with the goals today is that they were very preventable, Stevenson should have been switched on for the first, someone with his experience should have been more aware, nothing he can do about his pace now but he should have know to either step back a wee bit or play him offside

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    Hanlon been excellent this season and most of last. Definitely not finished. Just had 2 poor matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Hanlon been excellent this season and most of last. Definitely not finished. Just had 2 poor matches.
    Celtic at home, cost us the equaliser, cost us the goal at Ibrox, completely shown up on Wednesday too. hardly 2 poor matches. Stood and watched the 2nd today the less said about the third the better. He's done.
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    They've had their time, they've had they're moments, terrific servants and good players - but time to rebuild and move them on. No place for sentiment in football and Paul, Lewy, Daz and SDG need to leave and some new, brighter talent brought in next season. Sad, but that is the evolution of football sides.

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    Hanlon been excellent this season and most of last. Definitely not finished. Just had 2 poor matches.
    Thats not a serious post is it?

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    Celtic at home, cost us the equaliser, cost us the goal at Ibrox, completely shown up on Wednesday too. hardly 2 poor matches. Stood and watched the 2nd today the less said about the third the better. He's done.
    Yip, been done before this season

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermit Crab View Post
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    Celtic at home, cost us the equaliser, cost us the goal at Ibrox, completely shown up on Wednesday too. hardly 2 poor matches. Stood and watched the 2nd today the less said about the third the better. He's done.
    He’s far from done. You’ll still be saying this in a couple of years, when he’s still playing every week.

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    Thats not a serious post is it?
    It’s correct. No idea how someone is blaming him for the 2nd. He’s standing on the line and he still got closer to the guy taking the shot than anyone else! 3rd one he 100% should do better after Porto makes a stupid decision and let’s the ball bounce. Basic stuff.

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    Hanlon was poor last season, collectively and individually. He’s been mainly good this season, but poor the last two games. Sadly, like Boyle, we have players we can’t take out of the team no matter how much their form dips as there’s no realistic viable alternatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightside View Post
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    It’s correct. No idea how someone is blaming him for the 2nd. He’s standing on the line and he still got closer to the guy taking the shot than anyone else! 3rd one he 100% should do better after Porto makes a stupid decision and let’s the ball bounce. Basic stuff.

    Both him and Gogic failed to react first to the loose ball before the Livingston player. Both just watching.
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    He’s far from done. You’ll still be saying this in a couple of years, when he’s still playing every week.
    And you’ll still moan when we get beat off the likes of Ross county and Livingston.

    Then come on here and defend him.

    Brilliant

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Hanlon been excellent this season and most of last. Definitely not finished. Just had 2 poor matches.
    Agreed. He's early thirties and got plenty time left. Some of the criticism is way off and needs to take into account the other failings in the team. Given proper protection and a more stable partner then Paul still has a lot to offer Hibs. He appears to be a quiet lad though and concentrates on his own game and if Hibs want to bring on Porteous then we need someone to help settle him down.

    Cant help but feel both would benefit from playing in a 3 with an exerienced sweeper in between.

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    Celtic at home, cost us the equaliser, cost us the goal at Ibrox, completely shown up on Wednesday too. hardly 2 poor matches. Stood and watched the 2nd today the less said about the third the better. He's done.
    Ah okay. So 2 bad games and a couple other mistakes. You won't get better for Hibs over 22 games.

    Honestly, you were quiet as a mouse when our defence was excellent up to a few weeks ago.

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    Thats not a serious post is it?
    Deadly serious. It's the truth.

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    I’m so glad we all didn’t have to go to the game today. I can just imagine how loud the booing would have been at the end.
    It’s been a decent season thus far with everyone thinking there’s a chance of third spot but in typical Hibs fashion we go and blow it big time! Absolute coupon buster thosr last two games.

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    Lewis Stevenson is about to hit 500 games for the club and still looks terrified whenever the going gets tough.
    It's like every game is his debut.

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    The problem with Hanlon is that he has no competition for his position. He must be aware that even when he performs badly he will start the next game regardless. McGregor sits on the bench, but he is past a start, unless there are injuries. I think letting Jackson go was a poor decision and it may be worthwhile investing in a journeyman centre back, just to put some pressure on Hanlon and Porteous’ automatic picks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Ah okay. So 2 bad games and a couple other mistakes. You won't get better for Hibs over 22 games.

    Honestly, you were quiet as a mouse when our defence was excellent up to a few weeks ago.
    what other teams would they play for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermit Crab View Post
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    Celtic at home, cost us the equaliser, cost us the goal at Ibrox, completely shown up on Wednesday too. hardly 2 poor matches. Stood and watched the 2nd today the less said about the third the better. He's d
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    This 100% needs replacing soon.

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    what other teams would they play for?
    Hanlon on this seasons form walks into all sides below us.

    Lewis is probably a sub here now. I never actually mentioned him.

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    Hanlon is miles better when we play 3 at the back. But I feel he should be dragging us through these games. He was abysmal today and the same the other night. He really should be kicking Ryan's arse as well. Not a captain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Deadly serious. It's the truth.
    Its not 2 bad games though is it, so not really the truth. Its this acceptance throughout the club the reason why over the years we have under achieved. However if you genuinely think its only been 2 bad games then fair enough we all have our views

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    Its not 2 bad games though is it, so not really the truth. Its this acceptance throughout the club the reason why over the years we have under achieved. However if you genuinely think its only been 2 bad games then fair enough we all have our views
    Lewis has actually significantly overachieved here. He is one of the most successful Hibs players ever. He is not responsible for any underachievement. Paul has won a trophy and finished top 4 twice. Reaching 3 other finals. No underachievement if you look at our history there.

    Paul has only had 2 bad games. No one was calling for him to be binned last week. Well, one person was.

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    Ross might not be here long enough to make that decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NC1875 View Post
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    And you’ll still moan when we get beat off the likes of Ross county and Livingston.

    Then come on here and defend him.

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    Very rarely do you see Lewis making an error like that. He's arguably our 3rd choice left back now as he has no pace and he's far too negative but I still maintain its a rarity.

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    centre half at dundee looks good that fontaine boy

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    The fact is we got beat off a shopping centre today, comfortably at that and the two players in the thread title were responsibe for a goal each today. Its not good enough at this level. Jack Ross surely must see that.
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    Ah Paul and Lewis,

    They remind me of people I've encountered in every NHS Trust I've ever been part of. You know, they are “those guys,” dudes that have been there long term, have a nice little supervisory, or, even, lower management jobs. Seriously you all know the kind of guys I’m talking about, the ones that are quite literally part of the furniture and are coasting.

    It’s not a bad thing as – Paul and Lewis are proper company men - however, the problem is, when the going gets tough, they do just enough to not get the boot, occasionally showing up on the odd occasion when things go a bit wrong or when there is kudos to be had.

    They have upper management and the rank and file in their pocket but remain everyone's mate, the first for community endeavors, and, it is undeniable that they have the ability to shine when it matters to do just enough, but those days are now, I am sad to say, getting few and far between. Today being a great example. It is far too often we find ourselves soul-searching and wondering "what if?" only to say "**** it" or give in to the old pals act and jump on the roller-coaster again.

    I do like/respect Paul and Lewis. They are genuinely nice guys but unfortunately that’s part of the problem. The old pals act should really should be coming to an end if we have any ambition to break into the top three.

    Even when you get to the point whereby you can financially, sometimes even you may have the opportunity to, break free, force of habit is a son of a bitch, and keeps you onside for another season for fear of the Unknown or fear of radical change.

    TL:DR: - Pissed off, feel something has to change but I'm not a football scout or a tactical whizz-kid like many posters. Hell that was the first game I was able to watch for a month [thanks NHS shifts]

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