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In all of this clamour (let’s be many are just honest comparing ourselves against Hearts) we forget we’re not comparing like with like.
I’ve no idea what the socio-economic profile or Hearts V Hibs fans but that’s what will in part determine folks propensity to pay over and above. If the Jambos have a higher disposable income and don’t want their club to go tits up and appreciate the advantage tax-free contributions make (proportionately better than a ST) then you can see the disparity.
Why don’t folks contribute more? Well with many avenues to support the club maybe we’ve reached a plateau because there is a limit to what folks can afford and a willing to pay?
But when you do look at what we’ve contributed it is pretty remarkable
STs
kicks for kids
HSL
Hibs stones
Hibs Tv
lotto
Merchandise
Cardboard cut outs (compare with the Dons - seemed to have V little)
Amongst others
We should be highlighting the good we’ve done and not beat ourselves up.
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10-01-2021 07:39 PM #121"We know the people who have invested so far are simple fans." Vladimir Romanov - Scotsman 10th December 2012
"Romanov was like a breath of fresh air - laced with cyanide." Me.
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10-01-2021 09:56 PM #122This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote"There's class, there's first class and there's Hibs class" - Eddie Turnbull
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10-01-2021 09:58 PM #123This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Money goes to the club
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10-01-2021 10:00 PM #124This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote"There's class, there's first class and there's Hibs class" - Eddie Turnbull
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11-01-2021 01:59 AM #125This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The fact is that the fans of this club have stepped up big time and we can hold our heads up in any company UK wide. It wasn't that long ago that Hibs would have considered 9000 season tickets a result for a season where fans could get into games, never mind near enough 11000 for a season where fans had no idea if they would get to see the games or not.
Chuck in over 2000 folk giving free money to the club every month for no tangible return and not because the club are ( or were ) in financial difficulties and I would say this club has brilliant fans who are a long way from needing lessons in supporting it from Marine or anybody else for that matter.
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11-01-2021 09:56 AM #127
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Your first paragraph.Sorry to say this is slightly flawed.
Marine's stadium has a capacity of 3185. Their average gate is 400 (as stated by you).
Safe to say Marine do not always fill their stadium. This is not unusual. Hibs don't always fill their stadium.
Marine I would think, think they have at least 3000 fans?
Crosby as a town has a population of approx 51000. That leaves a lot of people who indeed are blue or red but could also be lapsed Crosby fans?
I think you are inviting the reader to believe (on assumption) the 400 figure is the figure to stick on.
Could be that 3000 were snapped up by Crosby fans and yes 12000 by others.
Marine FC have done everything possible here to raise money through the virtual route.
At this point I should say I have not, or am I, handing out lessons in how to support my club.
I think it is magnificent what Hibs supporters do to support their club.
eg HSL member are donating money with nothing in return.They are doing this through love of their club.
I doff my cap to the individuals who pack the club store and buy the merchandise. It all helps the club.
Season ticket holders get to see the Hibs in the flesh. This season they don't so they to should be roundly applauded.
Now getting to the real point.
I think this appeal from day one was aimed at the Hibs supporters who might have went to Hampden.
It was not specifically aimed at season tickets holders or HSL members.
Three good numbers to consider
we could take 20000 to a semi-final
we could take 40000 to a final (if we got the tickets)
Newspapers reported 200000 people on the streets of Edinburgh when we returned with the cup.
I might be wrong but I think the appeal was at the vast swathes of Hibbys who don't identify as a season ticket holder or HSL member etc. The ones who just have a genuine soft spot for the Hibs and who would have went to Hampden.
Hope I have cleared things up a bit and have as always, not meant to offend anyone.
PS Above of course only my thoughts and opinion.
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11-01-2021 11:37 AM #128
I think the appeal is just aimed at everyone who would have went to Hampden and therefore spent £25(ish) to ask them to still spend that but give it to Hibs to make up for the loss in income we’ll suffer through no fans being allowed in the stadium.
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11-01-2021 12:06 PM #129
Not everything has to be an argument.
This is a fairly straightforward initiative with an and goal that I'm sure we can all agree is worthwhile.
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11-01-2021 01:45 PM #130
It’s a important way to help our club improve its squad of football players. At a time when our club needs all the help that can be given it is a very important means of helping our club. I hope it is successful in raising as much money as possible
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Intended or not your comment made an unfair comparison with the efforts of Hibs fans compared to those of a semi pro lower league club taking advantage of a one off opportunity to be in the limelight, you shouldn't be surprised if folk reacted to it. It may be that HSL's initiative is aimed at all Hibs fans, but the fact is that the overwhelming response is going to come from folk who follow social media sites like this one or the many facebook pages devoted to the club, the cast majority of whom will be ST holders and or already members of HSL.
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11-01-2021 07:30 PM #132This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Nae Nookie
Can we first of thank you for your kind donation to the cause.
In terms of the campaign our target audience is just as Danish John and Matty describe. We are trying to reach beyond Season Ticket holders and our own Members. One would have thought that we would have taken as many as 20,000 to Hampden for this game. If we deduct 11,000 season ticket holders this leaves around 9,000 supporters. We are hoping just 4000 out of that anticipated 9000 are willing to and are in a position to donate this one off donation just as their ticket to Hampden would have been a one off payment.
Clearly, if Season Ticket holders or Members are minded to join in so much the better.
Again, thank you for your donation, no matter what category you fall in.
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12-01-2021 11:11 AM #133
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Should build nicely towards semi final week as each day will bring another batch of campaign donations into the bank.
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12-01-2021 11:35 AM #135
Also a reminder that anyone looking to donate by credit or debit card can do so by clicking here and selecting 'Single payments' from the tabs.
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12-01-2021 12:32 PM #136
Just made a £25 donation
Hope it guarantees a ticket for the final if we get there and crowds let back in 😉
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12-01-2021 06:23 PM #142
The latest total for January is £10,272.
Thanks to North East Scotland Hibs who have kindly contributed £100 to the campaign on behalf of their branch today.
We’ll keep the updates coming every few days - as previously stated there’s a bit of lag between making a payment on the website and the info filtering through so please bear with us.
Thanks as always for the ongoing support.Last edited by Daniel 1875; 12-01-2021 at 06:55 PM.
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12-01-2021 06:27 PM #143
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12-01-2021 06:30 PM #144
I think it's a disappointing figure.
Not a dig at the initiative or those promoting it but it just seems like there is little to no appetite to back these sort of things from the fans.
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We should see hopefully the number rise at a higher rate over the next week heading into semi final week.
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Thanks Daniel.
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I greatly admire the work that the HSL volunteers put in but the only personal messages I've had from them in recent years are when they (wrongly) ask me why I've stopped my contributions. I feel bad about highlighting this on here but I received no reply to my last email to HSL. I'm afraid there often seems to be a gap between their concept & execution. To balance my criticism, if I as a London based & not particularly IT literate fan can help HSL in any way then I will. I'll probably start by donating to this worthy cause. 😁
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12-01-2021 07:31 PM #148
Hi all,
Can i just double check, when I go onto the HSL site, I get the option of monthly payment or one off payment. For clarity, I want to donate the £25 ticket price that I would have paid anyway by going to the game but when I click one off payment, state £25, it then asks you to confirm/proceed with the “direct debit payment”....
Is this just the system speak because I wouldnt have expected a one off payment to be badged under direct debit?
Maybe just me
Once confirmed I am on right part. I will make donation this evening.
Cheers
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