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    Scotland 21s

    Just starting against Belgium on the bbc Scotland channel if anyone is interested.


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    Josh got lucky there with the guy missing that chance

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    Anyone know why the players don’t have their names on the back of their jerseys.

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    Ryan Porteous is the half time summariser

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highwayman View Post
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    Anyone know why the players don’t have their names on the back of their jerseys.
    So they can deny they were even there if we lose......

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    commentator beat me to it, not too shabby attendance tonight

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    josh gives away the penalty



    keeper no chance 0-1

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    Shame for Josh. Was doing well until then.

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    I think Doig is struggling.

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    That should have been red there.

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    Very lucky to have 11 players on the pitch. What was the motion the ref was making there? Seemed to imply it was a high ball or maybe it was contestable/not a clear opportunity?
    "...when Hibs won the Scottish Cup final and that celebration, Sunshine on Leith? I don’t think there’s a better football celebration ever in the game.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jones28 View Post
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    Very lucky to have 11 players on the pitch. What was the motion the ref was making there? Seemed to imply it was a high ball or maybe it was contestable/not a clear opportunity?
    I think because it bounced so high the boy has a fair bit to do so wasn’t deemed a clear opportunity to score. Lucky

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    Think he was implying that the bounce of the ball meant it wasn't a clear goalscoring opportunity ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Booked4Being-Ugly View Post
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    I think Doig is struggling.
    Thought he’d been playing well, unlucky with the penalty


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    Quote Originally Posted by Green forever View Post
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    Think he was implying that the bounce of the ball meant it wasn't a clear goalscoring opportunity ?
    Not a decision I’d say I’d agree with tbh, he denies him the chance to control the ball and he’s through on goal!
    "...when Hibs won the Scottish Cup final and that celebration, Sunshine on Leith? I don’t think there’s a better football celebration ever in the game.”

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    Scotland fortunate that half time came when it did.

    They need to close down Belgium a lot better because if they get another goal the games over for Scotland.

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    Doig hooked. Very harsh
    "...when Hibs won the Scottish Cup final and that celebration, Sunshine on Leith? I don’t think there’s a better football celebration ever in the game.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Whizz View Post
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    Ryan Porteous is the half time summariser
    Good to see his rehab continuing! Gerrard's departure should also help!

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    Doig hooked. Very harsh
    Injured. Which is a worry for us.

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    Would love to see the stats on what % of u21 players actually make it to the senior squad, per nation. For example comparing Scotland with say Belgium.

    2-0 Belgium

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    Would love to see the stats on what % of u21 players actually make it to the senior squad, per nation. For example comparing Scotland with say Belgium.

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    Not entirely relevant but I'm not sure it's an exclusively Scottish thing.

    I was looking back at the Scotland and Spain teams that contested the under 19s Euro finals a few years back. Of the Scotland team Lee Wallace and Graham Dorrans both made it to double figures for senior caps. A few others had decent club careers (Garry Kenneth, Scott Fox, Mark Reynolds) and a few dropped down the levels quite quickly with some falling out the game completely.

    The Spanish team as a whole down better in their club careers. However only Pique (102) and Mata (41) broke double figures for senior caps. A few others got 2 and 3 caps.

    Looking through the various other finals that followed it would seem a hit rate of 2 or 3 players making any significant impact at senior level is about par for the course. Any more than that is the exception.

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    Middleton had to go off with an injury so a good chance he will miss our game against St J 6 days after the Rangers semi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMurdoch View Post
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    Middleton had to go off with an injury so a good chance he will miss our game against St J 6 days after the Rangers semi.
    You diagnosed that severity already 😂

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    Nightmare if Josh is injured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    Not entirely relevant but I'm not sure it's an exclusively Scottish thing.

    I was looking back at the Scotland and Spain teams that contested the under 19s Euro finals a few years back. Of the Scotland team Lee Wallace and Graham Dorrans both made it to double figures for senior caps. A few others had decent club careers (Garry Kenneth, Scott Fox, Mark Reynolds) and a few dropped down the levels quite quickly with some falling out the game completely.

    The Spanish team as a whole down better in their club careers. However only Pique (102) and Mata (41) broke double figures for senior caps. A few others got 2 and 3 caps.

    Looking through the various other finals that followed it would seem a hit rate of 2 or 3 players making any significant impact at senior level is about par for the course. Any more than that is the exception.
    Steven Fletcher was suspended for the final but went on to easily get double figures for Scotland appearances.

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    Would imagine in terms of % that Portugal would be up there. I remember working with a Oortugues guy in 98-99 before Figo & co really burst on to the scene and he said that was their approach to take the team through the age groups so it’s like a club.
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    Would imagine in terms of % that Portugal would be up there. I remember working with a Oortugues guy in 98-99 before Figo & co really burst on to the scene and he said that was their approach to take the team through the age groups so it’s like a club.
    As I said above, it would be interesting to see the % comparison by country. In recent seasons, there are lots of good examples of players that have bypassed the u21s and gone straight into the senior team - Gilmour/Paterson at Scotland, Foden plus others at England.

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    As I said above, it would be interesting to see the % comparison by country. In recent seasons, there are lots of good examples of players that have bypassed the u21s and gone straight into the senior team - Gilmour/Paterson at Scotland, Foden plus others at England.
    Were Gilmour and Patterson not with the u21s last season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient hibee View Post
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    Were Gilmour and Patterson not with the u21s last season?
    Gilmour certainly was got sent off for nothing v croatia

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59233336

    Meet the Scottish teenagers trying to break through at Bayern Munich.

    Good little read.

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