St Mirren and Killie

[Peevemor]

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You’re being far too arrogant and it’s not a good look. No idea what has come over you lately.

Arrogant? I get the impression that, especially since last weekend, a few folk think it's open season to criticise everything I post.

I surely have the right to defend my opinions no?

If you can't take it then don't dish it out.

[1875Sean]

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Really don't think there's much difference at all. Every single occasion is down to an individual(s) choosing to do something against the agreed protocols.

St Mirren could have set up 17 coaches for the away game. But if two guys are going to choose to sit next to each other then they're going to.

I think both teams have probably been guilty of being too honest. I'd bet every team in the league have done similiar since the season kicked off.

Kilmarnock hiring further staff to help with the protocols at their would suggest they were not prepared from the offset

[Moulin Yarns]

People need to read the SPFL judgement.

[Speedy]

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People need to read the SPFL judgement.

The SPFL judgement is a long waffle trying to justify making an example of these 2 while letting Celtic & Aberdeen off the hook.

'Government Intervention', 'effectively postponed'. Firstly, they're clearly deflecting and trying to distance themselves from their previous decision. Secondly, something that required government intervention seems a bit more serious than something that doesn't.

[ancient hibee]

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The SPFL judgement is a long waffle trying to justify making an example of these 2 while letting Celtic & Aberdeen off the hook.

'Government Intervention', 'effectively postponed'. Firstly, they're clearly deflecting and trying to distance themselves from their previous decision. Secondly, something that required jn7government intervention seems a bit more serious than something that doesn't.

Would have thought it pretty obvious that both Aberdeen and Celtic could have played their fixtures.The Scottish Government wanted to make a point and ordered them not to.St.Mirren and Kilmarnock could not play their fixtures.A big difference.

[Mr. Wonderful]

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There's more to it than that.

https://spfl.co.uk/news/kilmarnock-f...ciplinary-outc

Assuming they'll be ready to punish the spfl players involved with the national team for their celebrations post qualifying too?

[1875Sean]

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Assuming they'll be ready to punish the spfl players involved with the national team for their celebrations post qualifying too?

That would be a different body, the SFA so they wouldn’t be able to anything to do with the national team

[Peevemor]

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Assuming they'll be ready to punish the spfl players involved with the national team for their celebrations post qualifying too?

That's a very fair point, although some people would want to see their clubs punished instead.

[gbhibby]

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That's a very fair point, although some people would want to see their clubs punished instead.

The Scotland team is in a bubble and tested. Their actions did not cause games to be postponed. Therefore nothing to do with clubs.

[The 90+2]

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Arrogant? I get the impression that, especially since last weekend, a few folk think it's open season to criticise everything I post.

I surely have the right to defend my opinions no?

If you can't take it then don't dish it out.

Nope mate, treat every posts as they come. In the last few days you’ve been difficult. I don’t care about last weekend but you need to chill imo.

[04Sauzee]

Both teams have issued statements they are appealing

[Keith_M]

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Both teams have issued statements they are appealing

That's a matter of opinion.

[scoopyboy]

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Both teams have issued statements they are appealing

I think they felt obliged to for the sake of their fans.

They've admitted guilty to the charges so I take it they are objecting to the severity of the punishment.

Don't have a clue how this will pan out.

[kaimendhibs]

I dont blame them. Celtc and Aberdeen didnt get points deductions. I realise these incidents are different but the possible ramifications were the same

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[hhibs]

The punishment is not appropriate in my view ,the consequences far out reach the two teams immediately concerned.

By giving 3-0 victories to their opposition rather than say taking three points and negative 3 goals and having the games replayed and ;it was and is entirely possible to fit these games in IMO, leads to following issues.

1)All other teams in the league are disadvantaged (punished)because the punishment means that Motherwell and Hamilton have gained(rewarded) a 3 point and 3 goal per game advantage, for no good reason, this in respect to the rest of the league.

2) The offending teams are being punished not once but twice as they are both losing points and goals and, also not able to play a rescheduled game, the punishment means a swing of 6 points and six goals against them in respect of the teams they were meant to play.

In short I wish them well on their appeal, this in typical Scottish football is il thought out "clusterfeck" of a decision and results in complete failure to address the integrity of the league, whilst still punishing the offenders

[Moulin Yarns]

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The punishment is not appropriate in my view ,the consequences far out reach the two teams immediately concerned.

By giving 3-0 victories to their opposition rather than say taking three points and negative 3 goals and having the games replayed and ;it was and is entirely possible to fit these games in IMO, leads to following issues.

1)All other teams in the league are disadvantaged (punished)because the punishment means that Motherwell and Hamilton have gained(rewarded) a 3 point and 3 goal per game advantage, for no good reason, this in respect to the rest of the league.

2) The offending teams are being punished not once but twice as they are both losing points and goals and, also not able to play a rescheduled game, the punishment means a swing of 6 points and six goals against them in respect of the teams they were meant to play.

In short I wish them well on their appeal, this in typical Scottish football is il thought out "clusterfeck" of a decision and results in complete failure to address the integrity of the league, whilst still punishing the offenders

They were not deducted points, just their opponents were awarded 3-0 wins.

I'm with you that others have been disadvantaged, while their opponents have been 'rewarded'

[hhibs]

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They were not deducted points, just their opponents were awarded 3-0 wins.

I'm with you that others have been disadvantaged, while their opponents have been 'rewarded'

Thanks for the clarification ,being vexed and on a rant must of blinded me there for a moment !

[Peevemor]

Leeann Dempster, with her head up her bum because she's shooting the crow soon, forgets to book the bus for Saturday. Hibs realise too late and don't turn up so we forfeit the match - 3-0 Hamilton!

What's the difference with the matches that St Mirren & Killie couldn't fulfil due to their own mismanagement?

These things shouldn't be thought of as punishments for St Mirren or Kille, but as simply the standard outcome for unfulfilled fixtures where a team doesn't have a valid reason for not playing a match.

[bigwheel]

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Leeann Dempster, with her head up her bum bacause she's shooting the crow soon, forgets to book the bus for Saturday. Hibs realise too late and don't turn up so we forfeit the match - 3-0 Hamilton!

What's the difference with the matches that St Mirren & Killie couldn't fulfil their matches due to their own mismanagement?

These things shouldn't be thought of as punishments for St Mirren or Kille, but as simply the standard outcome for unfulfilled fixtures where a team doesn't have a valid reason for not playing a match.

Lol. Made me chuckle...not least at the thought that our CEO books the bus for away games


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[Peevemor]

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Lol. Made me chuckle...not least at the thought that our CEO books the bus for away games


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You don't expect Ron to do it do you? What about the time difference?

[bigwheel]

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You don't expect Ron to do it do you? What about the time difference?

[Billy Whizz]

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You don't expect Ron to do it do you? What about the time difference?

Does he not live in Edinburgh at the moment, or has he gone home

[Peevemor]

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Does he not live in Edinburgh at the moment, or has he gone home

I'm speaking about when he's not in Edinburgh.

Daftie!

[Speedy]

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Does he not live in Edinburgh at the moment, or has he gone home

Last seen wandering around Abbeyhill trying to find the bus

[Keith_M]

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Last seen wandering around Abbeyhill trying to find the bus

I believe Aberdeen have parked it, so we definitely have a problem.

[gbhibby]

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Leeann Dempster, with her head up her bum because she's shooting the crow soon, forgets to book the bus for Saturday. Hibs realise too late and don't turn up so we forfeit the match - 3-0 Hamilton!

What's the difference with the matches that St Mirren & Killie couldn't fulfil due to their own mismanagement?

These things shouldn't be thought of as punishments for St Mirren or Kille, but as simply the standard outcome for unfulfilled fixtures where a team doesn't have a valid reason for not playing a match.

Just tell the SPFL that the players didn't turn up for the bus then it will be OK as players are different from other employees!!!!

[Billy Whizz]

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I'm speaking about when he's not in Edinburgh.

Daftie!

So he could currently drive the bus as well😂

[Peevemor]

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Just tell the SPFL that the players didn't turn up for the bus then it will be OK as players are different from other employees!!!!

Doesn't matter how many exclamation marks you use, I've no idea what you're on about.

[Eyrie]

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So he could currently drive the bus as well😂

Gods no!

He's American, so he'd drive on the wrong side of the road.

[Sir David Gray]

3-0 wins for Motherwell and Hamilton "on hold" pending the outcome of appeals from St Mirren and Kilmarnock.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55433000